Climate isn't the same as weather -- unless, of course, weather happens to be politically useful. In that case, weather portends climate apocalypse.
So warns Elizabeth Warren as she surveyed Iowan rainstorms, which she claims, like tornadoes and floods, are more frequent and severe. "Different parts of the country deal with different climate issues," Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-Malthusia, cautioned as she too warned of extreme tornadoes. "But ALL of these threats will be increasing in intensity as climate crisis grows and we fail to act appropriately."
Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., recently sent a fundraising email warning Democrats that climate change was causing "growing mega-fires, extremely destructive hurricanes, and horrific flooding" which put "American lives are at stake."
Umm...that's because if advancements in technology, infrastructure and medicine. It says nothing about whether storms are becoming more severe.Deaths from extreme weather have dropped by 99.9% since 1920, when people would die from a cold snap or a heat wave.
Because we build better housesThere has been a long term decline in the cost of tornado damage.
Maybe you should tell the people of Puerto Rico that.After a few devastating hurricanes a decade ago it was predicted that we'd see ever stronger and more numerous such storms. There followed 9 years with no major hurricanes in the US.
Again, improvements in infrastructure and advance prediction of storms has improved. That says nothing about the frequency or strength of storms.US National Hazard data shows a 30 year low in deaths from extreme weather.
Please show us this data that we all know you don't have. Your own graph shows a higher than normal number of tornado's this year and the data only goes back two decades.There has, if anything, been a long term decline in hurricanes and tornadoes.
There has, if anything, been a long term decline in hurricanes and tornadoes. There is no evidence of any recent significant increase.
There Is No Climate Chaos
Yes, there is.
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There Is No Climate Chaos
Yes, there is.
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Umm...that's because if advancements in technology, infrastructure and medicine. It says nothing about whether storms are becoming more severe.
Because we build better houses
Maybe you should tell the people of Puerto Rico that.
Again, improvements in infrastructure and advance prediction of storms has improved. That says nothing about the frequency or strength of storms.
Please show us this data that we all know you don't have. Your own graph shows a higher than normal number of tornado's this year and the data only goes back two decades.
Umm...that's because if advancements in technology, infrastructure and medicine. It says nothing about whether storms are becoming more severe.
Because we build better houses
Maybe you should tell the people of Puerto Rico that.
Again, improvements in infrastructure and advance prediction of storms has improved. That says nothing about the frequency or strength of storms.
Please show us this data that we all know you don't have. Your own graph shows a higher than normal number of tornado's this year and the data only goes back two decades.
ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR
From 1851 to 1999 there were only 6 times where the number of Named Tropical storms in the U.S. hit 15 or higher in a single year.
Since 2000 that has happened in 12 out of the last 17 years.
The average number of Major Hurricanes in the Atlantic averages 2 per year. Since 2000 there has only been one year where there was fewer than 2 with 10 years that had more than 2.
The average number of Hurricanes in the Atlantic is 6.5 per year. Since 2000 we've had 11 years with 7 or more hurricanes and only 5 with fewer than 6.
So... yeah you're very wrong.
Figure: Global Hurricane Frequency (all & major) -- 12-month running sums. The top time series is the number of global tropical cyclones that reached at least hurricane-force (maximum lifetime wind speed exceeds 64-knots). The bottom time series is the number of global tropical cyclones that reached major hurricane strength (96-knots+). Adapted from Maue (2011) GRL. |
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[...]Please show us this data that we all know you don't have. Your own graph shows a higher than normal number of tornado's this year and the data only goes back two decades.
But this is all wrong. There is no evidence that the weather is increasingly dangerous to human lives. Despite the cataclysmic framing of every weather event, we're safer than we've ever been.
Deaths from extreme weather have dropped by 99.9% since 1920, when people would die from a cold snap or a heat wave.
We've seen a "spike" in tornadoes this year, but that's only slightly above average. Last year the US saw no strong tornadoes at all. Deaths from tornadoes were lowest ever.
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There has been a long term decline in the cost of tornado damage.
After a few devastating hurricanes a decade ago it was predicted that we'd see ever stronger and more numerous such storms. There followed 9 years with no major hurricanes in the US.
US National Hazard data shows a 30 year low in deaths from extreme weather.
There has, if anything, been a long term decline in hurricanes and tornadoes. There is no evidence of any recent significant increase.
Government climate scientists have no proven ability to predict the frequency of hurricanes and tornadoes.
Sorry, Democrats, There Is No Climate Chaos
Maybe you should tell the people of Puerto Rico that.
ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR
From 1851 to 1999 there were only 6 times where the number of Named Tropical storms in the U.S. hit 15 or higher in a single year.
Since 2000 that has happened in 12 out of the last 17 years.
The average number of Major Hurricanes in the Atlantic averages 2 per year. Since 2000 there has only been one year where there was fewer than 2 with 10 years that had more than 2.
The average number of Hurricanes in the Atlantic is 6.5 per year. Since 2000 we've had 11 years with 7 or more hurricanes and only 5 with fewer than 6.
So... yeah you're very wrong.
Yes, satellite technology allows us to see storms that we couldn't see, and didn't even know of before.
Umm...that's because if advancements in technology, infrastructure and medicine. It says nothing about whether storms are becoming more severe.
Because we build better houses
Maybe you should tell the people of Puerto Rico that.
Again, improvements in infrastructure and advance prediction of storms has improved. That says nothing about the frequency or strength of storms.
Please show us this data that we all know you don't have. Your own graph shows a higher than normal number of tornado's this year and the data only goes back two decades.
we were not able to corroborate the presence of upward trends in hurricane intensity over the past two decades in any basin other than the Atlantic.
I had an op-ed published at Foxnews.com yesterday describing the reason why we have had so many tornadoes this year.
The answer is the continuing cold weather stretching from Michigan through Colorado to California. A persistent cold air mass situated north and west of the usual placement of warm and humid Gulf air in the East is what is required for rotating thunderstorms to be embedded in a strong wind shear environment. . . .
Those who claim tornadoes are increasing in number or severity are deceiving people. They should not be saying things which are not right.
… The bar charts below indicate there has been little trend in the frequency of the stronger tornadoes over the last 55 years...
from the OP said:Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-Malthusia, cautioned as she too warned of extreme tornadoes. "But ALL of these threats will be increasing in intensity as climate crisis grows
Maybe you should learn to read better...
She said that they will be. Not that they necessarily already have. Tornados themselves aren't really the issue. The bigger issue is hurricanes and flooding. We are still decades from the worst effects of Global Warming, but if we don't start counteracting it now it will be too late.
Everybody calm down. Trump just commissioned a fair and balanced group to study the issue to counter what silly government scientists warned about, and no doubt prove his theory that this is a hoax invented by the Chinese.
The issue is simple: conservatives are skeptical, because to believe the generally accepted science means you might have to regulate some businesses, and they hate that. Liberals don’t mind government interference in the economy as much. It is not really more complicated than that. Years ago, the conservative mayor of Denver speculated that its winter brown cloud could “have blown in from Seattle for all we know,” presumably because he didn’t want to regulate cars and industry. It’s possible that the left may tend to exaggerate things like smog, damage to the ozone layer, acid rain, but it’s *definite* that conservatives will tend to deny the phenomena. It’s how both sides roll, but if you go to oil company websites, it seems they are on board with the theory. Strangely, the only major political party in the developed world that challenges the science is part of the GOP.
So go ahead, Donald, show us that the theory of human caused climate change is wrong. Great. We lefties can then relax and go on to save whales or something
The AGW narrative is threatened by science, not politics. The pretense that this is a political question is merely a way to dodge the scientific challenge.
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