Sore Winners: Conservatives Can't Be Happy Even When They Are Winning

[Tangmo]

So a "progressive" master rabbit-foots it to the defense of his RINO lapdog. A word of advice: just because the poodle thinks he is a Rottweiler the master needn't encourage the delusion.

Look at all those "grim and determined" faces at the prospect of winning at Trump watch parties....oh dear!

The reference is to posters here who anyway can claim anything now and at this point.

There is a paucity of celebratory stuff in their words from then to the present. The posts are rants forever against Hillary and cussing out Obama. Menacing Biblical quotes are tossed at the enemies of the people.

Reading posts here one would think Trump hasn't any virtues as excuses and apologies are the common comments. That's because Trump has zero virtues and only epithets, or praise of Nazis in Charlottesville and dictators abroad, condemnation of prisoners of war, threats towards the free press, attacks against foreign democratic allies and condemnation of friends and so on.

The angry crowd over there hasn't any posititive legislative agenda. There is only denunciation, cussing, cursing and vilification of the political enemy and the culturally rejected. There is no cheer or constructive language or attitude from the sore winners. There is only anger, hostility, denunciation and menacing statements. And the endless lock her up.

 

[Fishking]

You're focused on extremes which only fuels 'em. We recall it was Trump who said of Charlottesville there were good people on the Nazi side. You guys are defending Trump in everything he does. Trump does no wrong over there. Critics such as mainstream mass media are proclaimed the "enemy of the people." This has been Right Wing stuff for decades and now you've got your guy in WH.

It's not the extremes, unless you're calling many college students extremists. And if colleges are creating extremists, then how do you propose to fix it? Further, Trump never said the mass media was the enemy of the people, if you're going to do a quote, do it right.

And Trump does plenty wrong so *shrug*

 

[Fishking]

Are you attempting to say that no one on the Right has ever manifested any kind of violence?

Nope...but it's not mainstreamed like it is on the left. Tell me, what liberal event has been subjected to mass mob violence? I can provide endless examples of the opposite.

 

[Fishking]

Have another few Charlottesville tiki torch parades.

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While they are definitely examples of right-wing extremists, it wasn't them who brought the fight. It was their planned event, of which they had a permit, and it was the left that came in a large mob and brought the violence.

They don't show, nothing would've happened. That's just a fact, and you backed up my point, accidentally.

 

[Fishking]

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Ah...a meme that demonstrates very juvenile and shallow thinking. It plays well with those with weak mental faculties. You can be both weak and a coward and also be a terrifying violent thug. This is why you always see them in large mobs. The weak and cowardly can find strength and courage in numbers. It happens all the time.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Nope...but it's not mainstreamed like it is on the left. Tell me, what liberal event has been subjected to mass mob violence? I can provide endless examples of the opposite.

Oh I get it now...
We're restricted to "events only", so individual acts of right wing terror don't count.
Nope, not playing that game. Events of a political nature generally tend to be about organized protests and organized actions, and nearly all of them are magnets for counter-protests, which means that organized fringe groups always mark their calendars.
Schedule a rally for white supremacists, and it pretty much guarantees that the opposition will show up.

I understand that you've been busy ever since February 2016 trying to paint the entire Democratic Party and all liberals as close kin to Antifa, communists, and the like. What better vehicle for you than to point to organized rallies where these two fringe groups mix it up so that you can crank up your outrage siren and accuse all liberals of being violent thugs, when you're not accusing us of being whiny snowflake cowards, that is.

So if I put up the list of well over 412 acts of right wing terrorism since the 1980's, you'll just do the knee jerk reactionary thing and claim that all of them were lone nutters and not representative of good and moral conservatives.



Clearly you never tire of dragging this same nonsense out in post after post after post. It's your pony's one trick and it's all you know.

Well, if you're that fond of one trick ponies, here's one for you, but I don't think you're too fond of the road it's going to take, because it might make your life a bit more difficult.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

While they are definitely examples of right-wing extremists, it wasn't them who brought the fight. It was their planned event, of which they had a permit, and it was the left that came in a large mob and brought the violence.

They don't show, nothing would've happened. That's just a fact, and you backed up my point, accidentally.

So, tolerating the intolerant is your advice.
See? I knew you wouldn't appreciate Popper's Paradox of Tolerance, because you're intolerant, and you support intolerant ideals.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Ah...a meme that demonstrates very juvenile and shallow thinking. It plays well with those with weak mental faculties. You can be both weak and a coward and also be a terrifying violent thug. This is why you always see them in large mobs. The weak and cowardly can find strength and courage in numbers. It happens all the time.

Oh so now you're complaining about numerical superiority?
Good God, you certainly are fond of wanting to make up rules as you go along, aren't you?

 

[Fishking]

Oh I get it now...
We're restricted to "events only", so individual acts of right wing terror don't count.
Nope, not playing that game. Events of a political nature generally tend to be about organized protests and organized actions, and nearly all of them are magnets for counter-protests, which means that organized fringe groups always mark their calendars.
Schedule a rally for white supremacists, and it pretty much guarantees that the opposition will show up.

It doesn't have to "events". It just has to be what is found to be acceptable behavior among a large number of people, and what demographic those people are composed of. Btw...posting some random pictures of people with guns doesn't make the point you think it does. You may as well post someone just giving a speech, because both of those are guaranteed rights enshrined in the Constitution. Further, if all those people were intent on violence, they'd have enough firepower to take out most police forces sent to confront them. Guess why that didn't happen? Hmmmmm….

Swing and a miss. You fail again.

 

[Fishking]

Oh so now you're complaining about numerical superiority?
Good God, you certainly are fond of wanting to make up rules as you go along, aren't you?

I'm not complaining about anything. I just showed you your meme is idiotic and now that I've demonstrated that to you, you're desperately trying to shift the goal posts an go one about something else entirely. Pathetic. Tip, just walk away, you're embarrassing yourself and you're out of your depth.

 

[Fishking]

So, tolerating the intolerant is your advice.
See? I knew you wouldn't appreciate Popper's Paradox of Tolerance, because you're intolerant, and you support intolerant ideals.

Yes, yes...you just justified using violence against people saying words, putting you in the same camp as them. Didn't take long for your true colors to come out and for you to land yourself in the same camp as those "extremist Antifa people". Rofl...good job, dude.

 

[Plasmaball]

When you spout nonsense like this, it's no wonder you like talking to liberals. This is the same nonsense they spout.

Trump has never had full control of the House, the Senate and the WH. If he had, Obamacare would be gone. Trump has, from day one, had opposition from ALL Democrats and from a lot of Republicans.

Furthermore, he has been talking about the wall...and the need for it...long BEFORE he became President.

Well not really..there has been a core base that thought we should close down the boarders but the wall was a campaign device to rile people up..nothing more.

Trump had two years to get his **** together with the wall. He had a deal with the dems with DACA and 25 billion on the table.. he walked..now all of a sudden. He needs to create a crisis because the dems are in power?

Trump thinks people are fools...I guess

 

[trixare4kids]

There is only one kind of political brain more mysterious than that of a liberal, that of so-called "moderate" (aka Rino) Republicans. This sub-species is a somewhat inexplicable form, from an ideological perspective ; they insist on identifying as a Republican but, more often than not, espouse liberal views. They only loath the right, chum with liberal Democrats, seek praise from their culture elites and their MSM press, and are terrified of being seen as unfriendly to illegals, identity grievance groups, and Democrats.

However, the source of their quisling personae does not stem so much from ideology as from social snobbery and bigotry; their comfort zone is to attack their own for being racist, unsophisticated, white and working class. Nothing is more horrifying to them than being in the same party as church-goers, pro-lifers, blue collars, and tea party newcomers and the common white guy. And nothing is more perplexing to them than ideology, someone actually having systemized beliefs.

Thus, the GOP Moderate RINO feels more comfortable doing the dirty work for liberals in eliminating serious rightwing opposition to Democrats and liberals. Indeed, as this seditious species has shown in 2008 they even vote against other RINOs (McCain) in order to jump on the trendy liberal racialist bandwagon of Obama (e.g. Powell, Brooks) ...and yet, they still assert they are Republican.

So no, they don't obsess over folks they tend to agree with (AOC or Hillary Clinton), but they do obsess over bashing the Tea Party, protecting illegals, and currying favor from Democrats.

And as long as a moderate Republican thinks "full control" of the Senate is possible with a mere one or two vote majority, with guys like McCain killing Republican reform efforts of Obamacare, and Democrats filibustering, then such RINOs will always be reviled as delusional snakes and 5th columnists.

Even though I am an agnostic, I leave you with a bible quote I have always found to good instructive to conservatives regarding the nature of moderate Republicans:

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot...So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

I can't give your post enough applause!

:applaud X a million

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

It doesn't have to "events". It just has to be what is found to be acceptable behavior among a large number of people, and what demographic those people are composed of. Btw...posting some random pictures of people with guns doesn't make the point you think it does. You may as well post someone just giving a speech, because both of those are guaranteed rights enshrined in the Constitution. Further, if all those people were intent on violence, they'd have enough firepower to take out most police forces sent to confront them. Guess why that didn't happen? Hmmmmm….

Swing and a miss. You fail again.

So now you're pretending not to recognize photos from the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally.
I guess you will stop at nothing.
By the way, had those fake militia boys even considered trying out their firepower "to take out most police forces", they would have met an even larger force.

But your admiration for privately run insurgent militias is noted.



By the way, sorry about the shipments of dildoes when you guys wanted snacks.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'm not complaining about anything. I just showed you your meme is idiotic and now that I've demonstrated that to you, you're desperately trying to shift the goal posts an go one about something else entirely. Pathetic. Tip, just walk away, you're embarrassing yourself and you're out of your depth.

Sorry that I triggered you so much that you're losing your grip on the English language.
Go take a break and get your blood pressure down.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yes, yes...you just justified using violence against people saying words, putting you in the same camp as them. Didn't take long for your true colors to come out and for you to land yourself in the same camp as those "extremist Antifa people". Rofl...good job, dude.

In what way. Oh wait, a poster that says that people who preach intolerance should be outside the law is me justifying violence against people saying words? By your logic, we should have left the Third Reich alone.
How pathetic.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'm not complaining about anything.

Sure you are, you're implying that once people have a large enough group, that's when they start gathering some courage and bravery. Hmmmm, seems to me that, together with your suggestion that the opposition should have just stayed away from Charlottesville,
it boils down to:

1. You cannot tolerate the fact that anybody objected to the the presence of the tiki torch extremist white supremacists.

2. You're pissed off that so many in opposition showed up.

3. Americans should tolerate those who preach intolerance.

Nice.
Bye.

 

[Fishking]

So now you're pretending not to recognize photos from the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally.

I addressed that but you missed it. Hold on while I get over my shock.

I guess you will stop at nothing.

You mean typing words is like...super way outta bound for you? Why are you still typing then?

By the way, had those fake militia boys even considered trying out their firepower "to take out most police forces", they would have met an even larger force.

Eventually, but it would've taken a while. But it didn't happen? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't they blast anyone with their guns?

But your admiration for privately run insurgent militias is noted.

There are laws to address people engaged in insurgency. What there aren't laws against is participating in their constitutionally guaranteed rights. What other rights do you take exception to?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I addressed that but you missed it. Hold on while I get over my shock.



You mean typing words is like...super way outta bound for you? Why are you still typing then?



Eventually, but it would've taken a while. But it didn't happen? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't they blast anyone with their guns?



There are laws to address people engaged in insurgency. What there aren't laws against is participating in their constitutionally guaranteed rights. What other rights do you take exception to?

You just proved the "Sore Winner" theme of the thread, and double and tripled down on it.
Congratulations!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

There are laws to address people engaged in insurgency. What there aren't laws against is participating in their constitutionally guaranteed rights. What other rights do you take exception to?

You have an awfully funny definition of "participating in constitutionally guaranteed rights".

“For half an hour, three men dressed in fatigues and armed with semi-automatic rifles stood across the street from the temple,” he said. “Perhaps the presence of our armed guard deterred them. Perhaps their presence was just a coincidence, and I’m paranoid. I don’t know.”

Zimmerman said the men did not try to enter the synagogue, but passing “parades of Nazis” shouted “There’s the synagogue!” when they passed the building, “followed by chants of “Seig Heil” and other anti-Semitic language.”

It's clear that you're a Nazi sympathizer. And more.

 

[Fishking]

Sure you are, you're implying that once people have a large enough group, that's when they start gathering some courage and bravery.

Yes, yes...and that's not complaining. That's showing you how the meme you shared was dumb and now you're throwing a fit about it. Just thank me for educating you without charge.

Hmmmm, seems to me that, together with your suggestion that the opposition should have just stayed away from Charlottesville,
it boils down to:

*Waiting for pearls of wisdom with bated breath*

1. You cannot tolerate the fact that anybody objected to the the presence of the tiki torch extremist white supremacists.

I'm perfectly fine with it. I applaud it. White supremacists should be objected to. That doesn't mean that using the very tactics of the fascists that they white supremacists idolize is a good idea for a free society to work in.

2. You're pissed off that so many in opposition showed up.

You basically just repeated #1. Pathetic.

3. Americans should tolerate those who preach intolerance.

Depends on what you mean by tolerance. You can both reject it and still operate within the acceptable principles of a free society. Still support free speech.

Nice.
Bye.

If this is the best you got, I certainly hope so. What a letdown.

 

[Fishking]

You have an awfully funny definition of "participating in constitutionally guaranteed rights".

So...they stood there? Why were they not arrested?!?!?!?!

It's clear that you're a Nazi sympathizer. And more.

Ah...there it is. You fail in all aspects of presenting a viable argument and now it's just ad hominem not based in reality. I accept your concession.

 

[Fishking]

You just proved the "Sore Winner" theme of the thread, and double and tripled down on it.
Congratulations!

Since none of the things you quoted has anything to do with that, your statement sounds really silly.

 

[maxparrish]

I can't give your post enough applause!

:applaud X a million

Thanks. Nothing is more offensive than a weasel, which should be the animal symbol for "moderate" Republicans.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'm perfectly fine with it. I applaud it. White supremacists should be objected to. That doesn't mean that using the very tactics of the fascists that they white supremacists idolize is a good idea for a free society to work in.

My meter just broke...



You aren't the least bit fine about it and every single person on DP now knows it.

It was their planned event, of which they had a permit, and it was the left that came in a large mob and brought the violence.
They don't show, nothing would've happened.

You don't have a crystal ball, neo-nazis don't just "show up" and act peacefully, and you're not even as good as Trump at the "very fine people on both sides" crap.

I'm done with you and your nonsense.