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Some racial statistics for us all...

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Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.

Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...10figbdata.htm

Though Only 12.8% of the Population, Blacks Account For 36% of All Taxpayer-Subsidized Housing

Source: http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/picqwik.html

68.7% of Blacks are Born Out of Wedlock

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

62% of ALL Black Births are Paid for by the U.S. Government.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm

50% of murders are committed by blacks

Source:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

84 california hospitals closed their doors as a result of the care they provided to illegal immigrants http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43275

Here is a heart warming story:

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."

In Los Angeles, there are 70,000 gang members:

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/reform/ch2_e.html

A large percentage of them are illegal. Some sources will show close to upwards of 60%.


I love multiculturalism...
 
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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.

Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...10figbdata.htm

Though Only 12.8% of the Population, Blacks Account For 36% of All Taxpayer-Subsidized Housing

Source: http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/picqwik.html

68.7% of Blacks are Born Out of Wedlock

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

62% of ALL Black Births are Paid for by the U.S. Government.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm

50% of murders are committed by blacks

Source:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

84 california hospitals closed their doors as a result of the care they provided to illegal immigrants http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43275

Here is a heart warming story:

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."

In Los Angeles, there are 70,000 gang members:

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/reform/ch2_e.html

A large percentage of them are illegal. Some sources will show close to upwards of 60%.


I love multiculturalism...

You mean you love racism?

Coorelation does not equal causation.

I'm willing to bet the statistics wouldn't change much if I replaced "blacks" with "poor people."
 

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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.

Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...10figbdata.htm

Though Only 12.8% of the Population, Blacks Account For 36% of All Taxpayer-Subsidized Housing

Source: http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/picqwik.html

68.7% of Blacks are Born Out of Wedlock
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

62% of ALL Black Births are Paid for by the U.S. Government.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm

50% of murders are committed by blacks

Source:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

84 california hospitals closed their doors as a result of the care they provided to illegal immigrants http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43275

Here is a heart warming story:

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."

In Los Angeles, there are 70,000 gang members:

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/reform/ch2_e.html

A large percentage of them are illegal. Some sources will show close to upwards of 60%.


I love multiculturalism...



This is just one item from your post...:roll:
I'll look the rest over when I have more time


http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

Table 2.7
White victims =3,727, Offenders Race, White=3,123 Black = 522
This shows a white person is more likely to be attacked by a white then a black.

Black Victims = 3,067, Offenders Race, Black = 2,784, White = 228
This show a black person is more likely to be attacked by a black.
 

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Why the **** are you so obessed with black people!

Go to hell you god damn bastard. All you want is attention, I will ignore you now dumb ****!
 

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Moderator's Warning:
Please tone it down on the name calling.


jamespol, the racially uneducated have a voice here too. Maybe we can wake him up and show major flaws in his argument.
 

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Sorry for the cuss-words...

When your best friend is black.. and your boyfriend is black..and you live in an upper class black community it is realllly difficult not to defend them.
 

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jamespol said:
Sorry for the cuss-words...

When your best friend is black.. and your boyfriend is black..and you live in an upper class black community it is realllly difficult not to defend them.
That was with my mod hat, without it - you and I are very much in tune. ;)
 

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[/QUOTE]=AmericanPatriot29]Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.

Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...10figbdata.htm [/QUOTE]

This page wont load for me..??..



Though Only 12.8% of the Population, Blacks Account For 36% of All Taxpayer-Subsidized Housing

Source: http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/picqwik.html

I didnt see your figures on this page...




68.7% of Blacks are Born Out of Wedlock

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

Whites = @521k......Blacks = @415K (Both are rounded)
Whites have more babies out of wedlock



62% of ALL Black Births are Paid for by the U.S. Government.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm

ok this number is true.But the data is from 1991 to 1995
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Updated 6/4/97
Number of women 15-44 years of age who had a live birth in 1991-95 and percent distribution by method of payment for the most recent delivery, according to selected characteristics: United States, 1995



See my first post...


More to come on my next post
 

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oh come on. This is just pure racism. Myabe its just american society that makes people like this say things like this
 

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Other threads at Debate politics authored by AmericanPatriot29. Clearly, this username has a white supremicist/ anti-Semitic agenda.

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Actually knowing many black men, I would concur with my man Chris Rock that a old man over 60 and black is probably the most racist man ever in this Nation, of course I don't know many white older men and how they would behave with my awesome Chocolate around them, but racism isn't just a white monopoly, and we coloreds do try to implicate them as only racist and were just acting out. Let's cure our problem, not make excuses for it like Sharpton and Jackson.
 
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These statistics are not about race they are about class income difference and the problem is so large it would take a book to explain it all. The shortest explanation I can give is do not blame black people for those statistics. A poor white man and a poor black man have much more in common than a rich white man and a poor white man or a rich black man and a poor black man.

If you want to blame one single problem for those statistics blame mega-corporations. How many minorities you think are working at Wal-Mart? Well let me give you a few statistics about The largest retail corporation in the world.

Wal-Mart employs 1 million American workers.

The average worker makes $7.50 an hour.

Wal-Mart makes 28 hours a week "full time" to avoid giving the majority of it's workers health care benefits which they only qualify for by working the the federal full time mandiated 40 hours. The taxpayer picks up the tab as more than 75% of all Wal Mart employees who seek healthcare are forced to go through a government subsidized healthcare plan costing the tax payers more than 2 billion dollars a year. Money Wal-Mart make profit from.

Of the few workers who are eligable for Wal-Mart healthcare, more than half are unable to afford the outrageous cost each week in comparison to the wage they receive forcing them to do exactly what the part timers do, go directly to the taxpayer.

Wal-Mart is directly responsible for destroying tens of thousands of good paying local jobs with it's Wal-Mart super centers that bankrupt the immediate areas businesses and force all workers to look for Wal-Mart type jobs or face unemployment and welfare.

You want to blame the real thugs for those statistics? Thank your friendly neighborhood corporations who have been hard at work avoiding paying trillions of dollars in taxes to the US government by using internation loopholes, and who have cost the taxpayers billions of dollars in government funded healthcare costs for their employees. Wal-Mart has cost the government more money than all the illegal immigrants and all the welfare programs the country has ever had combined, and that's just one mega-corporation.
 

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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.

Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...10figbdata.htm

Though Only 12.8% of the Population, Blacks Account For 36% of All Taxpayer-Subsidized Housing

Source: http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/picqwik.html

68.7% of Blacks are Born Out of Wedlock

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

62% of ALL Black Births are Paid for by the U.S. Government.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm

50% of murders are committed by blacks

Source:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

84 california hospitals closed their doors as a result of the care they provided to illegal immigrants http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43275

Here is a heart warming story:

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."

In Los Angeles, there are 70,000 gang members:

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/reform/ch2_e.html

A large percentage of them are illegal. Some sources will show close to upwards of 60%.


I love multiculturalism...


You racist or the racially uneducated (as Vauge put it) people feed the race parasites like Jesse jackson and AL Sharpton who further divide our country.
You also harm any legitimate welfare or border control that may be proposed.If you people want to end the open borders, side with the pro-open border crowd.If you people want to end welfare side with the pro-welfare people.

In plain english, you people harm opposition to welfare, open borders and other issues because you racist turn it into racist issues.
 

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vauge said:
Moderator's Warning:
Please tone it down on the name calling.


jamespol, the racially uneducated have a voice here too. Maybe we can wake him up and show major flaws in his argument.

What do you mean "racially uneducated"? Does that mean presenting politically incorrect facts? Why don't you point out some flaws?
 

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jamesrage said:
You racist or the racially uneducated (as Vauge put it) people feed the race parasites like Jesse jackson and AL Sharpton who further divide our country.

Bullshiit - Jackson feeds himself with his corporate shakedowns. The democrat party keeps feeding Al Sharpton, the racist slanderer and person who is responsible for several deaths from racist attacks, by inviting him to conferences and giving him photo ops with Hillary, etc.

You also harm any legitimate welfare or border control that may be proposed.If you people want to end the open borders, side with the pro-open border crowd.If you people want to end welfare side with the pro-welfare people.

More bullshiit. Liberals have forever dragged out the race card whenever race touches even slightly on an issue - THEY are the ones harming our country.
 

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alphamale said:
Bullshiit - Jackson feeds himself with his corporate shakedowns. The democrat party keeps feeding Al Sharpton, the racist slanderer and person who is responsible for several deaths from racist attacks, by inviting him to conferences and giving him photo ops with Hillary, etc.



More bullshiit. Liberals have forever dragged out the race card whenever race touches even slightly on an issue - THEY are the ones harming our country.

Liberals would not have a race card to play if the racist did not keep giving them material to use.
 

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More bullshiit. Liberals have forever dragged out the race card whenever race touches even slightly on an issue - THEY are the ones harming our country.
the race card is given to liberals by the racists
 

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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Though only 12.8 % of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 68% of the population, and take 31.6% of the total.
...

I love multiculturalism...

Therefore ... what? Kill them?
 
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Actually knowing many black men, I would concur with my man Chris Rock that a old man over 60 and black is probably the most racist man ever in this Nation, of course I don't know many white older men and how they would behave with my awesome Chocolate around them, but racism isn't just a white monopoly, and we coloreds do try to implicate them as only racist and were just acting out. Let's cure our problem, not make excuses for it like Sharpton and Jackson.

Not that you have any proof of that, your evidence is a comedian. He does not make political statements, he makes people laugh. Racists come from everywhere

BTW, I'm gonna go ahead and say your not actually black. I don't know anyone who refers to the black community as "we coloreds", this is not Uncle Tom's Cabin.
 

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This post is pure garbage. You sir, are no patriot and you degrade the true patriots of this country by taking that name. I can't believe that in this day and age there are still idiots who espouse these views. Anyone who would spew out the garbage that I just read does not deserve the freedoms and opportunities that we have in this country.
Its 2006 and I would have expected that people would be educated enough to be beyond these immature beliefs. Then again...I guess there are some backwoods people living in the state of ignorance.

I think its time to pass legislation to strip citizenship and deport racists. I'm sure the statistics would show a resulting increase in the IQ level of this country.
 

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It's a constitutional right to be a racist.

Not that I agree with it.
 

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SixStringHero said:
It's a constitutional right to be a racist.

Not that I agree with it.

That is true. Its also a matter of choice to be informed or ignorant.
 
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