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Joe Biden and Democrats should take the lead on the Biden/ Ukraine narrative and facts. A public tell all campaign by Joe and Hunter should commence. Joe Biden's current narrative on Burisma, Ukraine, Shokin plays into Trump's hand.

As a Democrat who is evaluating the 2020 field, I would respect Joe Biden as a candidate much more if he did a tell all, knowing that it would lead to unpredictable outcomes. By taking these actions Biden would seperate himself from the "Liar in Chief"

There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden.

Nepotism! wow nepotism happens in the U.S. what a shock. I have seen nepotism from a minimum wage job to 6 figure jobs.

Yes, Hunter Biden got the Burisma job from Joe's connections.

Hunter admitted to ABC that it was “poor judgment” on his part to take a seat at Burisma Holdings, a Kyiv-based company, while his father was vice president, adding that it was likely that he wouldn’t have gotten that job—or many other things in his life—if his father was not Joe Biden. At the same time, Hunter insisted there was nothing improper or unethical about his employment with the company.

Appearing on MSNBC, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), son of former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a libertarian icon who twice ran for the Republican nomination, seemed to suggest the government ought to investigate Hunter Biden and his dynastic connections—but once MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked him if that also applied to the president’s family, Paul suddenly sang a different tune.

“If we want to go down the road of the politics of self-destruction of everybody,” he exclaimed. “Criminalize all politicians on both sides of the aisle and go after their family, we can do that. But both sides are doing that, nobody really should excuse themselves and say, ‘We’re holier than thou and Trump is evil,’ instead of saying, ‘It looks like there’s been a lot of self-dealings throughout history.’”

These Nepotists Have a Lot to Say About Hunter Biden’s Nepotism

The most important point: Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine.

The lie about Ukraine is that, when he was vice president, Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he was investigating corruption supposedly perpetrated by his son, Hunter. The Trump administration felt so strongly about pushing this narrative into the 2020 election cycle that it may have been the principal reason military aid to Ukraine was suspended in an attempt to pressuring the government into helping him out.

We do know that the Ukrainian government agreed to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden and had even scheduled an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria. We also know that other Trump administration officials were concerned that Trump’s behavior toward Ukraine was unusual and inappropriate.

The truth about Ukraine is that Hunter Biden was never under any investigation for his role working for Burisma, a natural gas company. The chief prosecutor who Biden worked to get fired, Viktor Shokin, was under pressure from the Obama administration, America’s allies and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, all of whom felt he wasn’t doing enough to deal with corruption. There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden. Although Biden boasted about getting Shokin fired, he has never suggested it was because of any specific prosecution.

Trump’s lies about Biden are not limited to Ukraine. He has also pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden abused his connection to his father to do business in China. Last month, Trump seemed to publicly threaten China into helping him out by saying, “China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine. ... If they don’t do what we want, we have tremendous power.”

Joe Biden has 99 problems, but Ukraine ain't one | Salon.com
 
Joe Biden and Democrats should take the lead on the Biden/ Ukraine narrative and facts. A public tell all campaign by Joe and Hunter should commence. Joe Biden's current narrative on Burisma, Ukraine, Shokin plays into Trump's hand.

As a Democrat who is evaluating the 2020 field, I would respect Joe Biden as a candidate much more if he did a tell all, knowing that it would lead to unpredictable outcomes. By taking these actions Biden would seperate himself from the "Liar in Chief"

There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden.

Nepotism! wow nepotism happens in the U.S. what a shock. I have seen nepotism from a minimum wage job to 6 figure jobs.

Yes, Hunter Biden got the Burisma job from Joe's connections.

Hunter admitted to ABC that it was “poor judgment” on his part to take a seat at Burisma Holdings, a Kyiv-based company, while his father was vice president, adding that it was likely that he wouldn’t have gotten that job—or many other things in his life—if his father was not Joe Biden. At the same time, Hunter insisted there was nothing improper or unethical about his employment with the company.

Appearing on MSNBC, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), son of former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a libertarian icon who twice ran for the Republican nomination, seemed to suggest the government ought to investigate Hunter Biden and his dynastic connections—but once MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked him if that also applied to the president’s family, Paul suddenly sang a different tune.

“If we want to go down the road of the politics of self-destruction of everybody,” he exclaimed. “Criminalize all politicians on both sides of the aisle and go after their family, we can do that. But both sides are doing that, nobody really should excuse themselves and say, ‘We’re holier than thou and Trump is evil,’ instead of saying, ‘It looks like there’s been a lot of self-dealings throughout history.’”

These Nepotists Have a Lot to Say About Hunter Biden’s Nepotism

The most important point: Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine.

The lie about Ukraine is that, when he was vice president, Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he was investigating corruption supposedly perpetrated by his son, Hunter. The Trump administration felt so strongly about pushing this narrative into the 2020 election cycle that it may have been the principal reason military aid to Ukraine was suspended in an attempt to pressuring the government into helping him out.

We do know that the Ukrainian government agreed to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden and had even scheduled an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria. We also know that other Trump administration officials were concerned that Trump’s behavior toward Ukraine was unusual and inappropriate.

The truth about Ukraine is that Hunter Biden was never under any investigation for his role working for Burisma, a natural gas company. The chief prosecutor who Biden worked to get fired, Viktor Shokin, was under pressure from the Obama administration, America’s allies and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, all of whom felt he wasn’t doing enough to deal with corruption. There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden. Although Biden boasted about getting Shokin fired, he has never suggested it was because of any specific prosecution.

Trump’s lies about Biden are not limited to Ukraine. He has also pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden abused his connection to his father to do business in China. Last month, Trump seemed to publicly threaten China into helping him out by saying, “China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine. ... If they don’t do what we want, we have tremendous power.”

Joe Biden has 99 problems, but Ukraine ain't one | Salon.com


This would be political suicide for Joe Biden, for there is a video showing his "quid pro quo" using american tax dollars. The fact he let Hunter acquire this high paying job, alone, speaks volumes....more than just nepotism, especially seeing how Ukraine is not the first country Hunter has cashed in...it shows a pattern. More than simply helping a son, when it occurs over and over. Joe knew better, yet did it anyway, all the while Hillary was making a killing while Secretary of State....imagine a Vice President and Secretary of State doing these things....speaks volumes of Obama and the democrats.
 
The best way to avoid impeachment is to not elect stupid amoral criminals.
 
This would be political suicide for Joe Biden, for there is a video showing his "quid pro quo" using american tax dollars. The fact he let Hunter acquire this high paying job, alone, speaks volumes....more than just nepotism, especially seeing how Ukraine is not the first country Hunter has cashed in...it shows a pattern. More than simply helping a son, when it occurs over and over. Joe knew better, yet did it anyway, all the while Hillary was making a killing while Secretary of State....imagine a Vice President and Secretary of State doing these things....speaks volumes of Obama and the democrats.

Rubbish. So much so I hope and wish the republicans get their request/want/need to have both bidens testify at the senate trial of trump.
 
Rubbish. So much so I hope and wish the republicans get their request/want/need to have both bidens testify at the senate trial of trump.


I think there needs to be a separate investigation started on both the Bidens to arrive to the truth of this subject....methinks there is far more than just a father helping a son.
 
I think there needs to be a separate investigation started on both the Bidens to arrive to the truth of this subject....methinks there is far more than just a father helping a son.

Why separate? Why not in the senate trial since the right is trying to link the bidens to corruption in ukraine?

If the right had their way, every democrat would be investigated. Is hillary in jail yet? Wasn't she going to be investigated if trump won?
 
Why separate? Why not in the senate trial since the right is trying to link the bidens to corruption in ukraine?

If the right had their way, every democrat would be investigated. Is hillary in jail yet? Wasn't she going to be investigated if trump won?


Lol, it has not been the republicans having investigations proven to be false over these past few years....stick to the facts. I guess having a private server in the home of Hillary is okay.....guess destroying thousands of emails is okay....guess taking a hammer to sim cards is okay....just wonder what obstruction is to a leftist?

Thank goodness crooked Hillary did not win the presidency....wow, all of this corruption and lies would of never been found out. The DNC is in big trouble and they know it....just keep watching.
 
I think there needs to be a separate investigation started on both the Bidens to arrive to the truth of this subject....methinks there is far more than just a father helping a son.



Like what?
 
Lol, it has not been the republicans having investigations proven to be false over these past few years....stick to the facts. I guess having a private server in the home of Hillary is okay.....guess destroying thousands of emails is okay....guess taking a hammer to sim cards is okay....just wonder what obstruction is to a leftist?

Thank goodness crooked Hillary did not win the presidency....wow, all of this corruption and lies would of never been found out. The DNC is in big trouble and they know it....just keep watching.



Just exactly what is the corruption and the evidence of such? Add the lies, if you wish, since that is your best fat chance of even slightly proving anything.
 
Joe Biden and Democrats should take the lead on the Biden/ Ukraine narrative and facts. A public tell all campaign by Joe and Hunter should commence. Joe Biden's current narrative on Burisma, Ukraine, Shokin plays into Trump's hand.

As a Democrat who is evaluating the 2020 field, I would respect Joe Biden as a candidate much more if he did a tell all, knowing that it would lead to unpredictable outcomes. By taking these actions Biden would seperate himself from the "Liar in Chief"

There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden.

Nepotism! wow nepotism happens in the U.S. what a shock. I have seen nepotism from a minimum wage job to 6 figure jobs.

Yes, Hunter Biden got the Burisma job from Joe's connections.

Hunter admitted to ABC that it was “poor judgment” on his part to take a seat at Burisma Holdings, a Kyiv-based company, while his father was vice president, adding that it was likely that he wouldn’t have gotten that job—or many other things in his life—if his father was not Joe Biden. At the same time, Hunter insisted there was nothing improper or unethical about his employment with the company.

Appearing on MSNBC, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), son of former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a libertarian icon who twice ran for the Republican nomination, seemed to suggest the government ought to investigate Hunter Biden and his dynastic connections—but once MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked him if that also applied to the president’s family, Paul suddenly sang a different tune.

“If we want to go down the road of the politics of self-destruction of everybody,” he exclaimed. “Criminalize all politicians on both sides of the aisle and go after their family, we can do that. But both sides are doing that, nobody really should excuse themselves and say, ‘We’re holier than thou and Trump is evil,’ instead of saying, ‘It looks like there’s been a lot of self-dealings throughout history.’”

These Nepotists Have a Lot to Say About Hunter Biden’s Nepotism

The most important point: Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine.

The lie about Ukraine is that, when he was vice president, Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he was investigating corruption supposedly perpetrated by his son, Hunter. The Trump administration felt so strongly about pushing this narrative into the 2020 election cycle that it may have been the principal reason military aid to Ukraine was suspended in an attempt to pressuring the government into helping him out.

We do know that the Ukrainian government agreed to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden and had even scheduled an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria. We also know that other Trump administration officials were concerned that Trump’s behavior toward Ukraine was unusual and inappropriate.

The truth about Ukraine is that Hunter Biden was never under any investigation for his role working for Burisma, a natural gas company. The chief prosecutor who Biden worked to get fired, Viktor Shokin, was under pressure from the Obama administration, America’s allies and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, all of whom felt he wasn’t doing enough to deal with corruption. There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden. Although Biden boasted about getting Shokin fired, he has never suggested it was because of any specific prosecution.

Trump’s lies about Biden are not limited to Ukraine. He has also pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden abused his connection to his father to do business in China. Last month, Trump seemed to publicly threaten China into helping him out by saying, “China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine. ... If they don’t do what we want, we have tremendous power.”

Joe Biden has 99 problems, but Ukraine ain't one | Salon.com



A Republican would fight back as you say Biden should. Dems don't have any huevos. Both points have shown throughout the parties for many years.
 
Joe Biden and Democrats should take the lead on the Biden/ Ukraine narrative and facts. A public tell all campaign by Joe and Hunter should commence. Joe Biden's current narrative on Burisma, Ukraine, Shokin plays into Trump's hand.

As a Democrat who is evaluating the 2020 field, I would respect Joe Biden as a candidate much more if he did a tell all, knowing that it would lead to unpredictable outcomes. By taking these actions Biden would seperate himself from the "Liar in Chief"

There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden.

Nepotism! wow nepotism happens in the U.S. what a shock. I have seen nepotism from a minimum wage job to 6 figure jobs.

Yes, Hunter Biden got the Burisma job from Joe's connections.

Hunter admitted to ABC that it was “poor judgment” on his part to take a seat at Burisma Holdings, a Kyiv-based company, while his father was vice president, adding that it was likely that he wouldn’t have gotten that job—or many other things in his life—if his father was not Joe Biden. At the same time, Hunter insisted there was nothing improper or unethical about his employment with the company.

Appearing on MSNBC, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), son of former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a libertarian icon who twice ran for the Republican nomination, seemed to suggest the government ought to investigate Hunter Biden and his dynastic connections—but once MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked him if that also applied to the president’s family, Paul suddenly sang a different tune.

“If we want to go down the road of the politics of self-destruction of everybody,” he exclaimed. “Criminalize all politicians on both sides of the aisle and go after their family, we can do that. But both sides are doing that, nobody really should excuse themselves and say, ‘We’re holier than thou and Trump is evil,’ instead of saying, ‘It looks like there’s been a lot of self-dealings throughout history.’”

These Nepotists Have a Lot to Say About Hunter Biden’s Nepotism

The most important point: Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine.

The lie about Ukraine is that, when he was vice president, Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he was investigating corruption supposedly perpetrated by his son, Hunter. The Trump administration felt so strongly about pushing this narrative into the 2020 election cycle that it may have been the principal reason military aid to Ukraine was suspended in an attempt to pressuring the government into helping him out.

We do know that the Ukrainian government agreed to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden and had even scheduled an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria. We also know that other Trump administration officials were concerned that Trump’s behavior toward Ukraine was unusual and inappropriate.

The truth about Ukraine is that Hunter Biden was never under any investigation for his role working for Burisma, a natural gas company. The chief prosecutor who Biden worked to get fired, Viktor Shokin, was under pressure from the Obama administration, America’s allies and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, all of whom felt he wasn’t doing enough to deal with corruption. There is no evidence that Shokin's removal had anything to do with Hunter Biden. Although Biden boasted about getting Shokin fired, he has never suggested it was because of any specific prosecution.

Trump’s lies about Biden are not limited to Ukraine. He has also pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden abused his connection to his father to do business in China. Last month, Trump seemed to publicly threaten China into helping him out by saying, “China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine. ... If they don’t do what we want, we have tremendous power.”

Joe Biden has 99 problems, but Ukraine ain't one | Salon.com

It is a criminal offense for a government official to use US tax dollars to engage in extortion and bribery for the economic profit and legal defense of a relative. One billion dollars to be exact. 100, 1000 or 10,000 words trying to talk around Biden's public confession on show the pure hypocrisy of the Democratic Party, MSM and press.
 
The best way to avoid impeachment is to not elect stupid amoral criminals.

That is why we didn't elect clinton.
 
Lol, it has not been the republicans having investigations proven to be false over these past few years....stick to the facts. I guess having a private server in the home of Hillary is okay.....guess destroying thousands of emails is okay....guess taking a hammer to sim cards is okay....just wonder what obstruction is to a leftist?

Thank goodness crooked Hillary did not win the presidency....wow, all of this corruption and lies would of never been found out. The DNC is in big trouble and they know it....just keep watching.

This is a perfect example of my OP suggestion. The Right likes to acuse and have unfinished business on someone. That way without evidence and spin propaganda to the average citizen: Crooked Hillary". Now the Right wants unfinished business on Biden for 2020 "Crooked Biden".

Meanwhile they say thank goodness Hillary wasn't elected due to corruption, while ignoring the most fact based corrupt politician in the history of our Republic, DJT.
 
It is a criminal offense for a government official to use US tax dollars to engage in extortion and bribery for the economic profit and legal defense of a relative. One billion dollars to be exact. 100, 1000 or 10,000 words trying to talk around Biden's public confession on show the pure hypocrisy of the Democratic Party, MSM and press.
Ok good bye Biden if proven and Good bye Trump if proven.
But like Biden, Trump must take the stand under oath
 
Lol, it has not been the republicans having investigations proven to be false over these past few years....stick to the facts. I guess having a private server in the home of Hillary is okay.....guess destroying thousands of emails is okay....guess taking a hammer to sim cards is okay....just wonder what obstruction is to a leftist?

Thank goodness crooked Hillary did not win the presidency....wow, all of this corruption and lies would of never been found out. The DNC is in big trouble and they know it....just keep watching.

Why do you guys keep bringing up things that have already been investigated and dismissed with nobody going to jail? I'll be waiting for the big trouble for the dnc to appear. Let me know when it happens if I miss it.
 
Why do you guys keep bringing up things that have already been investigated and dismissed with nobody going to jail? I'll be waiting for the big trouble for the dnc to appear. Let me know when it happens if I miss it.

It is hard to put people in jail when the ag says she will not prosecute no matter if they find crimes or not which they did.
 
I think there needs to be a separate investigation started on both the Bidens to arrive to the truth of this subject....methinks there is far more than just a father helping a son.
As a practical/factual matter, there is no justification for any investigation. Also, the United States doesn’t have jurisdiction to investigate Hunter Biden’s employment with a foreign based company.
 
Joe Biden has been in public life for a long time. I am sure there are many skeletons in his closet that will be unleashed if and when he becomes the official candidate.
 
Joe Biden has been in public life for a long time. I am sure there are many skeletons in his closet that will be unleashed if and when he becomes the official candidate.

Although this would never happen:

Let's lay out all the Trump concockted and Trump related bullsh..t in one public hearing under oath, any and all witnesses.

And that includes:
Hillary, Biden, and Trump possible corruption
All in one package for the public to watch
Let the chips fall where they may
 
Like what?


Oh, just the simple conflict of interest, when ole Joe is supposed to be fighting corruption in Ukraine....a little fishy, don't ya think? Then, as we know now of what has also transpired in other countries with the father/son duo in other countries....kind of makes one wonder.
 
Just exactly what is the corruption and the evidence of such? Add the lies, if you wish, since that is your best fat chance of even slightly proving anything.


You gotta be kidding me....when one is under court order to produce such emails, they are not supposed to destroy them. If you are a democrat, it's okay, huh?
 
This is a perfect example of my OP suggestion. The Right likes to acuse and have unfinished business on someone. That way without evidence and spin propaganda to the average citizen: Crooked Hillary". Now the Right wants unfinished business on Biden for 2020 "Crooked Biden".

Meanwhile they say thank goodness Hillary wasn't elected due to corruption, while ignoring the most fact based corrupt politician in the history of our Republic, DJT.


Hearsay, second, third, or fourth hand knowledge is not evidence...the dems failed. Parading so called witnesses who share their opinion on how things should of been done is NOT evidence....they are not in charge of foreign policy, the President is....the dems failed. Changing the charges from "quid pro quo", to "extortion", to "bribery", and finally the two generic charges they impeached the President upon, is a comical circus looking for a charge as they went along.....but the gullible keep following them, lol.
 
As a practical/factual matter, there is no justification for any investigation. Also, the United States doesn’t have jurisdiction to investigate Hunter Biden’s employment with a foreign based company.


Sure there is....the video of Joe committing a quid pro quo.
 
You gotta be kidding me....when one is under court order to produce such emails, they are not supposed to destroy them. If you are a democrat, it's okay, huh?

Hearsay, second, third, or fourth hand knowledge is not evidence...the Repugs failed. Parading so called witnesses who share their opinion on how things should of been done is NOT evidence....they are not in charge of foreign policy, Hillary was....the Repugs failed.
 
You gotta be kidding me....when one is under court order to produce such emails, they are not supposed to destroy them. If you are a democrat, it's okay, huh?

Like my OP reads, let's let it all come out. The whole truth for Trump, Hillary, Biden all evidence all testimony including all 3 under oath.

The only consistant defenses of Trump are:

1. He obstructed, hid evidence, lied or ordered people not to testify. Democrats can't do a thing about getting to the truth through the Trump, Barr, McConnell, Graham and Trump stooge swamp, so Trump is innocent by cover-up.

And those with Trump devotion sickness, once known as Jim Jones drink the coolade syndrome believe if you hide or destroy evidence well you got away with it and that is just Presidential.

2. Trump is corrupt but that's ok because Trump and friend's acuse any competitors of corruption.

On pg. 10 of Vol. 1 of the Mueller Report,

Mueller records all the obstacles placed in the path of his investigation by witnesses in the Trump-Russia case, many of them connected to Trump: they refused to be interviewed; when interviewed, they asserted privilege; when subpoenaed for documents, they fought those subpoenas; when successfully interviewed, they often lied or misled; when interviewed and then subpoenaed for documents, they often withheld some or all of the requested evidence; and when they neither lied nor withheld evidence, it was sometimes because they'd already destroyed the evidence sought by the special counsel's office.

Indeed, the effort to stymie Mueller's determination of a narrow issue—whether Trump or his campaign conspired, before the fact, with the GRU or IRA—was so advanced, so pervasive, and so successful that Mueller early in Vol. 1 issues a caveat to his readers: Vol. 1 is just the evidence he was able to get under the circumstances

The Mueller Report's Biggest Open Secret | Opinion
 
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