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Solution for Ground Zero Mosque Controversy: Build Two Mosques

I seriously doubt you'll be able to find enough scabs to build this thing. And even if you do again good luck getting a domestic provider for the building materials, and if you do manage that good luck getting the teamsters to cross a picket line, and if resort to an international provider for the materials good luck getting it off the docks and again once off the docks good luck with the teamsters. Have fun with that. Welcome to NYC assholes I got yer victory Mosque right here!
As I've already pointed out, people in the US happily produce things that most of the US finds morally abhorrent with little problem. When this non-issue goes away, no one is going to bat an eye at an order for construction materials.

I guess you haven't heard, there's already a huge union based initiative to refuse to build this thing. This thing aint getting built. Game, set, and match bitches.
**Snort** You REALLY under-estimate the nature of Capitalism in the US.

By the way, where is this big union push against it? Do you have a source for it?
 
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As I've already pointed out, people in the US happily produce things that most of the US finds morally abhorrent with little problem. When this non-issue goes away, no one is going to bat an eye at an order for construction materials.

Like I said, good luck getting the materials off the ships, good luck getting it off the docks, and good luck getting the teamsters to cross a picket line. Welcome to NYC pal.
 
I will bust the boycott.. no game set and match..it is game on go ahead stop me.

btw.. just an aside.. you are a union supporter? or is this a fair weather enemy of my enemy is my friend situation (not that I even suppose for one second the unions have enough solidated support for this stand - solidarity = socialism = devil? -)?
 
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I suggest making a memorial and a miniature Twin Towers. The memorial should display no religious allegiance
 
Like I said, good luck getting the materials off the ships, good luck getting it off the docks, and good luck getting the teamsters to cross a picket line. Welcome to NYC pal.
Again, do you have a source on this massive boycott?
 
Again, do you have a source on this massive boycott?

dunno I see potenial employment opportunity in a depressed job market myself. A very compelling potential route of income to augment my declined business revenue, but there are likely those who need it more than I, but if there is a shortage of workers I can leave my GF to oversee the business, and come help out
 
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dbl post why?
 
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If their TRUE desire was to "build bridges", "improve relations", and "promote diversity and acceptance of equality" then your suggestion would be great.

However, they're not going to do that, they're going to keep doing what they're doing which is further destroying bridges, further ruining relations, and further putting a wedge in the ability for acceptance of diversity and equality in many people.

Kind of makes you wonder if they're just ****ing retarded with their ineptitude, or if they're not exactly being sincere about what their intent is.
 
I never thought this to be an issue about religion. It's elementary to know that everyone has a right to their religion and to build a place of worship on private land. The issue more about decency and respect for the victims - something we seem to have lost in this country.

Would Muslims want a Jew, who is very vocal about no peace with the Muslims, building a Synagogue in their neighborhood? Would anyone want a priest that was accused of child molestation to build a cathedral next to your child's school?

I consider myself leaning Libertarian on a lot of issues but I also recognize that with individual freedom also requires a bit of responsibility and respect for others.

This is far from over. They still need to find someone to build it and I also hear they only have a few thousand dollars when the thing costs like 30 million. Also the guy promoting this "community center" has said some pretty anti-American stuff and I'm sure the CIA microscope is all over his life. A lot can happen.

This Ground-Zero Mosque issue is music to the ears of atheists. It's more proof that religion is the cause of a lot of the world's problems and that the truth of "God" is still being fought over. I wish you religious folk would pick a version of "God" and stick with it. All these Shiite, Sunni, Protestant, Lutheran, Jehova Witness, Orthodox Judaism, Masorti Judaism, etc. is making it very hard to understand what "God" wants us to do.
 
If their TRUE desire was to "build bridges", "improve relations", and "promote diversity and acceptance of equality" then your suggestion would be great.

However, they're not going to do that, they're going to keep doing what they're doing which is further destroying bridges, further ruining relations, and further putting a wedge in the ability for acceptance of diversity and equality in many people.

Kind of makes you wonder if they're just ****ing retarded with their ineptitude, or if they're not exactly being sincere about what their intent is.

Well, by the looks of this forum as a whole, they can't be TOO retarded since they have so many eating out of the palm of their hand by responding in exactly the manner they wish. What, with all the apologists who aren't just defending their constitutional right to build the mosque, but actually aiding their agenda through assailing those who try to point out the actual views of the Imam in question, I would say it is all going according to plan.

The next step is to further establish the notion that any criticism of an Islamist political agenda is an act of racism.
 
A community centre with a prayer area two blocks away is neither a mosque or at ground zero. Such misdescription feeds the inanity and division.

The former Burlington Coat Factory building in which the "Ground Zero mosque" sits was heavily damaged on 9/11 from aircraft debris. So while it's not at the spot, it's close, and selection of that site was not an accident. There is a political message here, and, while I'd like to give the supporters of the project the benefit of the doubt, I'd like to know more about the sources of financing and any connections to foreign political organizations such as the Arab League.

Concerning the use of the term "mosque," the "Ground Zero mosque" site is currently serving as an annex to the al-Farah mosque, which apparently was bursting at the seams and sought to expand religious services to a new, larger site. Just as a building isn't required to have a bell tower crowned with a steeple in order to be called a church, a building doesn't have to have a minaret with a muezzin calling the faithful to pray in order to be called a mosque. A room in a building dedicated to Muslim prayer can suffice. As I already wrote, virtually every major Western news organization, including the Associated Press, refers to the current Park51 worship site as a "mosque" and the proposed project as a "mosque" or "cultural center and mosque." But regardless of what one calls a place where hundreds of Muslims gather daily to pray, I think it's suspicion, rightly or wrongly, of the motives of the people supporting and financing this project that have so many people upset about it.
 
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Although I disagree that there is a "need" for them to do this--no one is saying new Churches or Synagogues should have an interfaith center--I do agree with the spirit of your suggestion. It should be a bridge between cultures. I also want to thank you for your honesty mentioning the Pentagon Abby where Muslims pray every day. There is sincerity in what you write, regardless of whether or not I agree with it entirely.

First of all, thanks for your kind and thoughtful comments.

It's circumstance that causes me to suggest a "need" for the backers of this project to create an interfaith facility at the site. They have a major public relations problem on their hands. Assuming the people supporting this project are sincere, I would never be in favor of forcing them to create an incarnation that they did not favor. They have a right to worship there, and if they want to keep the worship aspect of the site exclusively for Muslims they have every right to do that as well. As I intimated in my initial post, I don't think the problem is that Americans are anti-Muslim or don't think Muslims have a right to pray at (or near) Ground Zero. It's suspicion of the motives of the people supporting this specific project that I feel is at the root of the problem. Keep in mind also that we have an important federal midterm election coming up in November and there are people from both major political parties who will seek to use this controversy to their political advantage. Since I tend to favor Republicans, my view is that Democrats will try to de-emphasize a politically-charged phrase like "Ground Zero mosque" and cast people who question this project as Islamophobic bigots.
 
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