- Jun 17, 2010
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too late. apology issued.
Well our buddies at Truthout have given us one side of the story. But it is always nice to hear both sides.
Apparently the NCO didn't decide on "lockdown" punishment until the the soldiers had returned back to the Company Area. Am wondering if the punishment may have had more to do with one or a handful of the unhappy soldiers copping an attitude with the drill sergeant...and had little to do with attending the concert?? (usually a good rule of thumb to not **** with drill sergeants).
Guess we'll just have to wait and see how the Pentagon investigation goes.
... Smith said his commanding officers did offer an apology, but asserted that they did nothing wrong on May 13 and it was perfectly within their "rights" to march Smith and his fellow soldiers wherever they wanted, evangelical Christian event or otherwise. ...
and how does that change anything? the issue is their being denied their constitutionally guaranteed right to refuse the right to attend what amounts to a an exercise in religious proselytization by "young women who aren't afraid to take an aggressive, almost warrior-like stance when it comes to spreading the gospel ". the punishment they received for exercising their constitutional right to refuse only makes the central crime, and it IS a crime, worse.Apparently the NCO didn't decide on "lockdown" punishment until the the soldiers had returned back to the Company Area.
If it were a RUSH concert, I would understand.t r u t h o u t | Troops Punished After Refusing to Attend Evangelical Concert
Well, that's a big "oops!"
What other side????Whatever. A pointless "apology issued" according to Smith. Just like the entire story has been according to Smith.
We still await the other side of the story....
This is not supposed to be one of them. And I must confess to being sorely troubled by the notion of organizations hostile to our Constitutional freedoms having so thoroughly infiltrated our military.To be honest though while in the military you lose a lot of constitutional rights.
uuhhh, the other side besides a disgruntled soldier who is pissed because his NCO was "mean to him".What other side????
The men who refused to stomach a christian rock concert were confined to barracks.
Who's the clown runnin' that outfit?
get back to us when you find out the other half of the storyuuhhh, the other side besides a disgruntled soldier who is pissed because his NCO was "mean to him".
Event occurred in May. Believe our current discussion is based on a late August report from Truthout condemning the military. May turn out to be a valid misbehavior by commanders. Mebbe not.
Wouldn't you want to get the whole picture before coming to a conclusion? (teasing with that last question, that was just me being silly..... )
Ok. I can live with that. But they don't stop there. They also say:What is Spiritual Fitness?
Spiritual fitness means different things to different people. For most people, it means having a spiritual life, or a set of beliefs and values that guide them and give their life meaning.
Just like keeping physically fit, spiritual fitness is something that needs to be tended to and worked at. For some, the path to spiritual fitness is through organized religion, whereas the practice of some others is not tied to any religious belief. You might find meaning and connection by spending time in nature, or through volunteering, or by creating something useful, or even by playing with a pet.
Ultimately, they explain that people without a "connection to the divine" are less fit to serve:What is Spirituatlity?
What do we mean when we talk about spirituality and spiritual fitness? What is connection? In fact, at its core, spirituality is about connection, including connection with humans and with a deity or divine presence.
* Life’s meaning and significance
* Values, beliefs and ethics
* Transcendent experiences and awareness of life beyond oneself
* Connection with self, others, God, and life
* Reflecting on life, and a sense of “deep self” or soul
Whether or not a person is "spiritual" is none of the Army's $#@! business. The Army cannot be in the business of forcing people to follow a religious track.People who are spiritually fit, who are living with a purpose and in connection with the world around them, tend to have a stronger self-esteem, better coping skills, and more solid relationships. Spiritual fitness can also bond people through love, forgiveness and compassion.... Spiritual fitness matters because the more that people feel connected to a sense of meaning and to life, others, and the divine, the more they are able to cope successfully and bounce back in times of stress and crisis.
:soapthe Department of Defense has awarded multi-million dollar contracts for consultants behind spiritual fitness events.