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Society's stupid labels on sexy women

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You know, I was talking with a girl today that I know who is a complete moron. She was going on about how Britney Spears dresses too sexy. She called her a whore and a bunch of other names.

I was thinking, "What a hypocrite!"

This girl is really one to talk. She's been living with a guy for several years who has two felonies, treats her like dirt, makes her pay all the rent, hasn't worked in several months, and yet she's too stupid to kick him out.

Anyway, my point is that I hate labels that society puts on people. You know what I mean? One of the oldest and stupidest labels is that a woman that is sexy, pretty, and dresses in a way that shows off her body is a, "whore" or something. I find this label to be utterly stupid and disgusting.

I don't think the way a woman dresses has anything to do with her sex life. I've known some ugly ass women that have been very promiscious.

By God, I say if a woman has a damn hot figure, she has a right to show it off. If she is gifted with long legs, a plump chest, and a firm buttocks, than more power to her. I think these women who bash women for showing off their beautiful figures are just jealous. That's why unlike some conservatives, I don't have a problem with magazines like Playboy and others.
 

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And this is a political platform......how exactly?
 

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George_Washington said:
Well, I thought it kind of was because it has to do with conformity and society and those issues are related to politics...

But I guess if a mod wants to move it somewhere else, that's cool.
It's fine where it is.

People label other people all the time!!! Not just the sexy chicks either, it's everybody! I labeled a cheerleader as the stupid uncaring kind but I was completely blown away when I heard her talking to her friends and those around her...She was intelligent, thoughtful, and probably one of the most genuine people I have ever met! After that I really haven't labeled anyone too badly...And I never allow my original label to bias me against somebody, I always give them a chance to talk.
 

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George_Washington said:
By God, I say if a woman has a damn hot figure, she has a right to show it off. If she is gifted with long legs, a plump chest, and a firm buttocks, than more power to her. I think these women who bash women for showing off their beautiful figures are just jealous. That's why unlike some conservatives, I don't have a problem with magazines like Playboy and others.
George, you have hit the nail on the head. When women attack other women, it's usually because they are jealous. Women are competing with each other--who has the biggest boobs, who has the smallest waist, who has the biggest engagement ring, and the list goes on. Women can be very petty (and I fall into that category sometimes :shock:).
 

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The reason why women want to look pretty(by other's standards)aps, is because of society's pressure upon them, for instance, a young female is often told they look pretty/beautiful, the male counterpart is more looked for toughness and intelligence. Now toughness/intelligence, can be gained easily, prettiness is natural. This often leads to depression moreover for the female, becuase they are pressured to change to something that they are not, they lose their individual uniqueness by looking the same, and also since prettiness is natualer, its hard/impossible to change it. Now one force acting on this is tradition, look at earlier societies. And in TV/movies, females are more of a "sexual object". Also since to be "more beautiful", they are often pressured to buy products, e.g. makeup, diets, etc. which are actually in a majority of cases is unhealthy, are pressured by corporatons because it increases their profits the more you buy their products.

I tend to look for more who the person really is, say on the "inside", but I find myself pysically attracted to black-haired females for some odd reason.
 

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Comrade Brian said:
The reason why women want to look pretty(by other's standards)aps, is because of society's pressure upon them, for instance, a young female is often told they look pretty/beautiful, the male counterpart is more looked for toughness and intelligence. Now toughness/intelligence, can be gained easily, prettiness is natural. This often leads to depression moreover for the female, becuase they are pressured to change to something that they are not, they lose their individual uniqueness by looking the same, and also since prettiness is natualer, its hard/impossible to change it. Now one force acting on this is tradition, look at earlier societies. And in TV/movies, females are more of a "sexual object". Also since to be "more beautiful", they are often pressured to buy products, e.g. makeup, diets, etc. which are actually in a majority of cases is unhealthy, are pressured by corporatons because it increases their profits the more you buy their products.

I tend to look for more who the person really is, say on the "inside", but I find myself pysically attracted to black-haired females for some odd reason.
I agree

but
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the male counterpart is more looked for toughness and intelligence
Really? Strength-sure but Intelligence? Most of my high school must have missed that memo. The only thing the majority of males care about in my high school is fighting, muscles, and sex. If you aren't talking about one then you are probably asleep....Of course there are exceptions and I realize that this post simply proves that I falsly label people all the time but.....well I didn't start out thinking that and my labels are very true if you get to know some of them....
 

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The only girls who've called me a slut were ugly and/or fat.

Says something.
 

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There is nothing wrong with good looking men or women showing off or highlighting their sex appeal or looks. Afterall, we are sexual and sensual creatures. I think it is only sad if a woman or man feels it is the only true measure of their worth.
 

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If you've got it, flaunt it. But while women are flaunting it, don't be upset if it gets you unwanted attention.
 

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Those that label attractive women as sluts...etc, would actually give their right arm to look like that. I wonder why people don't put this kind of emphasis on men? I once heard that a women actually looks at how attractive the women is while she is checking out a man and if she is pretty, he somehow looks more attractive to her.
 

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Comrade Brian said:
Now toughness/intelligence, can be gained easily, prettiness is natural.

I stopped there, if there is more to repsond to, i will with another post.

AHEM. You must not be pretty. Pretty is work! Eating right, excersizing, and grooming do a hell of a lot for prettiness. A fat slob won't be pretyy because they don't work at it.

Granted, there definately is a certain element of prettiness that come right from birth, not all of it though.

You think if Angelina Jolie put on 160 lbs, she would be pretty? OR look at Charlize Theron is Monster, she looked major ugly, and she's a normally beautiful women.

Furthermore, toughness and intelligence are work too, these are thing I know more. Ever met an intelligent man, that doesn't read? or a tough man, that doesn't know how to use thier bodies? Again, there are certain elements people start out with, all in all, generally pretty close.

The stupidest "normal" person, or most mentally challenged poeple (excluding invalids and people in comas) though somewhat "low" by our standards, are more intelligent than ANY OTHER ANIMAL AT PEAK.

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enough with that. There is social pressure, because DARWIN WAS RIGHT.

Too often though labels are attached out of malice, envy or jealousy, you're right about that.

But labels are an expidient tool. It takes too long, to fully know everyone you'll ever interact with, especially if only for a moment. By the time you completely know 1 person, 1/2 of your life may be gone. So, because we're mortal and we die, we have to make use of labels, and some of them to exclude people who seem to behave in manners we don't approve (and yes, we are allowed to judge, in fact, we must).

Like the label: Dirty Evil Socialist Republican Party Statist Apologists, aka John W Bush Voters :p

Or Dirty Evil Socialist Democrat Party Statist Control Freaks, aka Geroge F Kerry voters.

Can never really tell the two apart though, just one looks more like a monkey.
 
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Oh, yes, I am apprecitive of all sluts, without VD, and close to "normal" wieght; and some sluts with VD or away from "normal" wieght on a case by case basis.
 

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alphieb said:
I once heard that a women actually looks at how attractive the women is while she is checking out a man and if she is pretty, he somehow looks more attractive to her.
This is true. Most women don't want something until they see another woman with it. Whether it be shoes/clothing, partners (this explains why married men are more attractive to women, it's the ring), cars, lifestyles, or jobs.
 

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galenrox said:
Not neccisarily, you're both right and wrong at the same time.
It's not strength per say, but power, which combines strength and intelligence. If you can just dominate others, especially whole groups of people, either by physical stature or mental power, or a combination of the two or by any other means, you are bound to be BATHING in *****. So to say just because someone's strong they'll get it is not neccisarily true, because if that strong person is someone's bitch, then no they won't (or maybe they'll catch some leftovers).

That's why over time the smarter guys become the ones getting the chicks while the old high school football players who work at the local gas station are looking for any trashy broad who'll give them the time of day, because in high school, size typically equates to power, but out of high school that typically no longer applies, but instead it's who's got the better job, who's got more money, etc. and that's typically the smart guy, not the big guy.
Yeah i suppose your right. But those who control things from behind the curtain rarely get remembered after the play...so-to-speak...

Plus I'm still in freakin high school and it sucks a$$ in here.....I can pretty much get anything I want but stupid people are annoying and stupid people are everywhere in here.....
 

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goligoth said:
Yeah i suppose your right. But those who control things from behind the curtain rarely get remembered after the play...so-to-speak...

Plus I'm still in freakin high school and it sucks a$$ in here.....I can pretty much get anything I want but stupid people are annoying and stupid people are everywhere in here.....
heh, wait till you get out of high-school and meet stupid people that don't have the benefit of youthful ignorance. Those people really suck: Stupid 4 Life.
 

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libertarian_knight said:
AHEM. You must not be pretty. Pretty is work! Eating right, excersizing, and grooming do a hell of a lot for prettiness.
*feels smug*

I avoid exercise at costs, eat junk food daily and rarely wear makeup because it plays havoc on my complexion - but I still remain roughly 100 lb and get regular jobs as part-time model. Mwahahaha.

Point is, if you're born unattractive, you can't change that. Look at Paris Hilton - wears 3 inches of foundation but no clothes and probably hasn't eaten for a year, but still looks like she's had a head-on collision with a freight train.
 

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Point is, if you're born unattractive, you can't change that. Look at Paris Hilton - wears 3 inches of foundation but no clothes and probably hasn't eaten for a year, but still looks like she's had a head-on collision with a freight train.
So true....heh, By the way....whatcha doin' after Class?

From my perspective beauty no longer is found in firm breasts and a nice ass (though these are wonderful things to play with), rather a combination of the many things that make a woman, vs. a girl. I have found over the last decades that many who dress to impress are simply not worth my time, but were before because all I really wanted was sex, and they were more than willing to comply. At my age (almost 40) having gone thru the "learning what sex is" stage....and in the Masters degree program, experience and conversation are far more important than the so called "Slut Appeal". That said, I can still appreciate the effort put into the show....even if I no longer want to pay for the tickets.
 

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Ironically, feminine beauty and intelligence are as intimidating... as they are irresistible.



 

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Tashah said:
Ironically, feminine beauty and intelligence are as intimidating... as they are irresistible.



You are pretty......I'm jealous and I hate you.....LOL I'm kidding.
 

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Tashah said:
Ironically, feminine beauty and intelligence are as intimidating... as they are irresistible.



Right. Every guy says they want both - beauty and intelligence - but when they finally get it they resent your having them. This is what I have found to be true.

So take that independent_thinker. Hmph.
 

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mixedmedia said:
Right. Every guy says they want both - beauty and intelligence - but when they finally get it they resent your having them. This is what I have found to be true.

So take that independent_thinker. Hmph.
In my best patronizing tone: "You are so cute when you pout."

Just kidding. And every girl says that they want a nice guy but they still are attracted to the guy who treats them like a jerk.

You haven't found the right guy yet is all mixedmedia. Some of us do appreciate a woman who has their own thoughts and isn't a doormat.
 

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independent_thinker2002 said:
In my best patronizing tone: "You are so cute when you pout."
Alright, I didn't want to have to do this but....but now I must kick your ass.:mrgreen:

Just kidding.
Yeah, I've heard that before, too. :roll:

And every girl says that they want a nice guy but they still are attracted to the guy who treats them like a jerk.
Not every girl. And truth be told, they don't start acting like jerks until they get tired of looking at you and hearing you dare oppose their opinions. Up until then they are the veritable pillars of chivalry in their appreciation of your "virtues."

You haven't found the right guy yet is all mixedmedia. Some of us do appreciate a woman who has their own thoughts and isn't a doormat.
This I believe, but perhaps they are as few and far between as a woman with looks, brains and a heart of gold. We can't all be lucky. Even though I would be happy with two out of three. I understand how visually-oriented guys are and all, though. :mrgreen:
 

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mixedmedia said:
Alright, I didn't want to have to do this but....but now I must kick your ass.:mrgreen:
I could use a good ass-kicking!



mixedmedia said:
Yeah, I've heard that before, too. :roll:



Not every girl. And truth be told, they don't start acting like jerks until they get tired of looking at you and hearing you dare oppose their opinions. Up until then they are the veritable pillars of chivalry in their appreciation of your "virtues."
Translation: Guys are nice until you stop "putting out" on a regular basis.



mixedmedia said:
This I believe, but perhaps they are as few and far between as a woman with looks, brains and a heart of gold. We can't all be lucky. Even though I would be happy with two out of three. I understand how visually-oriented guys are and all, though. :mrgreen:
Most women that know that they are "hot" usually have the personality of sandpaper and only have love for themselves in their "heart of gold". Women blame men for this unreasonable expectation of what a woman should look like. Look at the women's magazines and tell me who is perpetuating that ideal? Give me brains and a real heart of gold any day!
 

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independent_thinker2002 said:
I could use a good ass-kicking!
Yes, you could. For this piece of tripe below......

Translation: Guys are nice until you stop "putting out" on a regular basis.
The real translation: Guys are nice until you stop "putting up" on a regular basis.

Most women that know that they are "hot" usually have the personality of sandpaper and only have love for themselves in their "heart of gold". Women blame men for this unreasonable expectation of what a woman should look like. Look at the women's magazines and tell me who is perpetuating that ideal? Give me brains and a real heart of gold any day!
Oh, please. You're going to tell me that men are forced by women to buy Playboy, Maxim, etc.? The women in those mags look that way because that is what guys respond to. In comparison, women's magazines (if you're talking about fashion magazines) give much more leeway to the variety & "mode of attractiveness" of the women who are afforded the spotlight.

BUT, it is no myth that the "industry of beauty" was designed and built by men on the insecurities of women and their desire to be attractive to the opposite sex. Which, I believe, is a normal, biological happenstance.
 
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