Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.[W:954]

[Rocketman]

USA-sheep

that is no wool off my back

 

[head of joaquin]

Look at history..

Whenever conservatives say this, it means that they aren't going to look at history, but an incredible simulation of it.

 

[yobarnacle]

Whenever conservatives say this, it means that they aren't going to look at history, but an incredible simulation of it.

I suspect I've SEEN more history than you have. My grandchildren are teenagers.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

I suspect I've SEEN more history than you have. My grandchildren are teenagers.

Long years of experience does not guarantee accuracy or factuality of one's observances. Put more understandably, those long years of experience don't make you right - they simply make it more likely that you're right.

But even then, there's cultural factors - for instance, those who are old are more likely to believe that evolution is a myth. This is not because they're old per se, but because that's what they were taught in their youth. Many have certainly broken free of that particular set of mental shackles, but you understand what I mean.

 

[yobarnacle]

Long years of experience does not guarantee accuracy or factuality of one's observances. Put more understandably, those long years of experience don't make you right - they simply make it more likely that you're right.

But even then, there's cultural factors - for instance, those who are old are more likely to believe that evolution is a myth. This is not because they're old per se, but because that's what they were taught in their youth. Many have certainly broken free of that particular set of mental shackles, but you understand what I mean.

Yes I do. But as a professional seaman, I'm a highly trained observer. The most important instrument on the bridge is the eyes of the navigator.
Those mental skills in observing aren't forgotten or useless in other fields of inquiry.

And I can PROVE modern evolutionary theory (not Darwin, but it's interpretation today) is BAD SCIENCE!
Rather than get into that very deep, but as one example of WHY it's bad science, I can quote famous scientists, all atheists, who say although living organisms APPEAR (are observed) to be designed, we KNOW they are not, BECAUSE evolution HAPPENED! First principle of scientific method is OBSERVATION. Throw that out, and you end up trying to make arguments why your theory is valid based on philosophical argument. Bad Science. Lots of it around.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Yes I do. But as a professional seaman, I'm a highly trained observer. The most important instrument on the bridge is the eyes of the navigator.
Those mental skills in observing aren't forgotten or useless in other fields of inquiry.

And I can PROVE modern evolutionary theory (not Darwin, but it's interpretation today) is BAD SCIENCE!
Rather than get into that very deep, but as one example of WHY it's bad science, I can quote famous scientists, all atheists, who say although living organisms APPEAR (are observed) to be designed, we KNOW they are not, BECAUSE evolution HAPPENED! First principle of scientific method is OBSERVATION. Throw that out, and you end up trying to make arguments why your theory is valid based on philosophical argument. Bad Science. Lots of it around.

Except for the fact that we've watched evolution happen in just our own lifetimes. Evolution is why a flu vaccine works one year but not the next on the very same flu variant - influenza virii evolve very quickly. Evolution is why we have MRSA. Evolution has enabled men to grow about 4 inches taller in just the past hundred years - which is very fast when it comes to large species.

I'm not an atheist - quite Christian, actually - but I cannot argue with the observed results, ones that affect you and me in our daily lives.

 

[yobarnacle]

Except for the fact that we've watched evolution happen in just our own lifetimes. Evolution is why a flu vaccine works one year but not the next on the very same flu variant - influenza virii evolve very quickly. Evolution is why we have MRSA. Evolution has enabled men to grow about 4 inches taller in just the past hundred years - which is very fast when it comes to large species.

I'm not an atheist - quite Christian, actually - but I cannot argue with the observed results, ones that affect you and me in our daily lives.

You are referring to variation within a species, or micro-evolution. It's accepted scientific knowledge that small changes DO NOT accumulate, as much as they wish it did. Micro-revolution is dis-connected from macro-evolution. and NO empiricle evidence for macro-evolution exists.
the fruit fly is used in many experiments because it reproduces so fast. Millions of generations during 1 human generation. Yet petrified fruit flies in rock strata 5 million years old, look just like modern fruit flies. Evolutionists aren't trying to sell variation, but macro-evolution, which can not and has not been observed. Hence it is NOT science, since science is BASED on observation. the nearest I can define evolution as it's preached, is, an alternate religion to Christianity. It's proponents TALK like preachers!