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So, Obama is not after our guns?

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I think it speaks to the ridiculousness of the gun culture that the following two orders are "going after your guns"...guns you don't even have, and I believe are not even allowed normally to buy.

One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities, where some may end up on the streets. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.

The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering a gun to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register guns
Your source.


Such ridiculous fanaticism to an inanimate object.
 

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I think it speaks to the ridiculousness of the gun culture that the following two orders are "going after your guns"...guns you don't even have, and I believe are not even allowed normally to buy.


Your source.


Such ridiculous fanaticism to an inanimate object.
Wrong. There are Garands that are in South Korea that were supposed to be returned to the US and sold to the public through the CMP and Obama decided to step in the way of that.
Through executive order of all things.
Do you have any idea what a Garand is?
 

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I read the article. Did I miss something? I don't see the government taking anyone's guns. Is it possible the title of this thread is misleading?
Little bit by little bit.
They know they dont have the muscle to just come take them yet, so lets stand in the way of the product stream.
Just another socialist tactic by a worthless president.
 

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Name one government that is happy about its citizens being armed. Our day is coming through manatory registration.
 

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They can just take the NRA list of gun owners.
Name one government that is happy about its citizens being armed. Our day is coming through manatory registration.
 

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Name one government that is happy about its citizens being armed. Our day is coming through manatory registration.
And I can garrantee that will be the last straw.
Name one crime commited with a Garand. I dont see some gangbangers toting around 4ft long rifles.
 

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Little bit by little bit.
They know they dont have the muscle to just come take them yet, so lets stand in the way of the product stream.
Just another socialist tactic by a worthless president.
I have never been in the gun debate thread before. Is the above type of argument typical? Wow I thought truthers were paranoid about the government.
 

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I have never been in the gun debate thread before. Is the above type of argument typical? Wow I thought truthers were paranoid about the government.
Then leave.
Its all true, havent made anything up and posted a link to the story.
 

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The US still owns those guns.
Do you even read your own sources? What am I saying, of course you don't.

One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities, where some may end up on the streets. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.
Firstly, when we sell or donate a weapon, we no longer own it.
Secondly, nothing in the 2nd amendment says the government has to sell you a weapon it owns nor does it not allow the government to regulate trade with other nations.
 

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Then leave.
Its all true, havent made anything up and posted a link to the story.
What's all true? you haven't made anything up? Who named this thread? I read the story - the only connection to that article and the thread title is in your paranoid mind. Who else is after you and what do they want to take?
 

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What's all true? you haven't made anything up? Who named this thread? I read the story - the only connection to that article and the thread title is in your paranoid mind. Who else is after you and what do they want to take?
Paranoid? How so.
The VP as well as Mayors, Govenors, congressmen and women all used the word confiscation right after Newtown.
Their words not mine.
NY passed laws in the middle of the night banning certian guns by way of magazine size reductions.
One terrible crime, and Obama had the parents of the victims in the Rose Garden promising to "keep up the fight" to take guns away from law abiding people in this country.
But "I" am paranoid. LOL
 

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Do you even read your own sources? What am I saying, of course you don't.



Firstly, when we sell or donate a weapon, we no longer own it.
Secondly, nothing in the 2nd amendment says the government has to sell you a weapon it owns nor does it not allow the government to regulate trade with other nations.
Since the 50s, the agreement was that the rifles would be repatriated to the US.
Do YOU read? Look beyond the article to our agreement with SK.
 

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Nothing in the 2nd amendment takes away the government ability to regulate trade, especially international trade.

Sorry :/
Not as such. But if the two were to conflict, the 2A wins.
 

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Not as such. But if the two were to conflict, the 2A wins.
Looks like the 2A is starting to be the next target of Cowboy Obama.
I hate "what ifs" but I see alot of regulations coming by this manner as it pertains to the 2A. Just not pin pointing the 2A. But getting all the magazine size, ammo types, registrations type orders in a row.
I mean seriously.
Afghanistan, Lybia, now Syria, Iran nukes, our economy, unemployment, big city bankruptcy, fuel prices, Obamacare push back, 2014 mid terms and he is spending time on guns that if they enter the country will be bought up by collectors and not criminals.
He is worthless as a leader.
 

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I have never been in the gun debate thread before. Is the above type of argument typical? Wow I thought truthers were paranoid about the government.
Yes, sadly it is typical.
 

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Nothing in the 2nd amendment takes away the government ability to regulate trade, especially international trade.

Sorry :/
Good thing, huh?
 

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Yes, sadly it is typical.
Typical how? Because some of us dont just roll over and take it? You are fine with the prez just waking up one day and using executive order to play king?
The noose is tightening on gun owners in this country, and this is directly related to that. They know if they move slow enough, they will get all the laws on guns they want.
Becuase people like you say, oh its just this, or its JUST that. Until confiscation is a reality.
 

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Typical how? Because some of us dont just roll over and take it? You are fine with the prez just waking up one day and using executive order to play king?
The noose is tightening on gun owners in this country, and this is directly related to that. They know if they move slow enough, they will get all the laws on guns they want.
Becuase people like you say, oh its just this, or its JUST that. Until confiscation is a reality.
It's typical because every tiny restriction gets turned into "Until confiscation is a reality."
 

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It's typical because every tiny restriction gets turned into "Until confiscation is a reality."
Because every tiny restriction is one step closer to it.
Give me one valid reason to keep those guns out of the hands of collectors. Just one.
 

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Nothing in the 2nd amendment takes away the government ability to regulate trade, especially international trade.

Sorry :/
Bull****, go read the second and tell me there is any lattitude with a straight face. Then read the enumerated powers and the tenth amendment. Yeah, they don't have legitimate authority.
 

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The US still owns those guns.
That is the one thing Obama actually has legal recourse over, because it's U.S. military property the federal can set the rules for those particular weapons. However most of the EOs that Obama signed should lead to impeachment, and Congress if they had any sense of honor would start to reassess the legality of many statutes from the last century on, but specifically those regarding the infringements on the 2A.
 
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