And how many of those have been in combat? And how many of those might have had a change of heart when things started going boom all around them. That's kind of the point of the comment "there are no atheists in foxholes".
Sorry to hear that. Mine died about 20 years ago. He was a combat engineer in the Pacific and his battalion typically went into an island before the main invasion forces to build runways and the like as MacArthur hopscotched his way towards Japan. Wound up seeing a lot of combat because lots of those islands had Japanese holdouts who weren't hot on the idea of runways getting built
Personally, in my very humble opinion, combat engineers had cast iron balls and never get the credit they deserve no matter the theater they served. May they rest in peace.
No arrogance involved...the Bible tells us what to pray for...
Makes perfect sense to those who understand the Bible...
God likes the bombing
If that's the case, then it's not real faith or belief. Rather, it's based on fear.
It's just a psychological comfort mechanism. But it's not true belief. That's the point.
My point is that there is nothing wrong with psychological comfort mechanisms provided they don’t stop you from taking any concrete steps to better your situation. And that applies equally to true believers and foxhole Christians.
I didn't say there was. But "foxhole faith" is not true faith. It's just a fear based reaction. And not everyone may have such a reaction to begin with. So it's disingenuous to say there are "no atheists in foxholes."
And apparently you know it better than anyone with your self appointed expertise.
Fair enough though it was a common enough saying back then from what I understand. It was a very minor point.
Common maybe. But still disingenuous.
Or, more likely, it makes perfect sense to those who blindly follow what others misinterpret.
You are welcome to that opinion. Sufgice to say I disagree. And as I said it really isn’t all that germane to the main point.
Disagree if you want. But that doesn't cause the fact that atheists serve in the military and there can indeed be "atheists in a foxhole." To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous. Thatsca simple fact.
Alas, you can not show that statement about Satan is anything more than religious rhetoric.
jeez you really like harping on inconsequential facts. BFD. And btw disingenuous implies deliberately misleading so you're suggesting that soldiers - like my father in law - who said that were lying? Do you nit pick every aphorism you come across? The next time someone says "if it ain't broke don't fix it" are you gonna call them disingenuous? You must be a blast at parties.
I simply stated a fact. No more, no less.
"disingenuous" may be factual if you have proof that someone is being misleading. Otherwise it's a value judgment. In this case it's the latter. And that will be my last word on the subject. Have a good one.
The statement "there are no atheists in foxholes" is misleading, as is claiming an atheist would become a theist in a combat situation. Such claims are disingenuous.