So if they are guilty in the eyes of the, law then Bush and his cabinet are also

[jbander]

You regressives just don't have a clue do you?????????--------------"18 U.S.C. § 2340[edit]
An act of torture committed outside the United States by a U.S. national or a non-U.S. national who is present in the United States is punishable under 18 U.S.C. § 2340. The definition of torture used is as follows:

As used in this chapter—

(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and
(3) “United States” means the several states of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States."

 

[Fledermaus]

That would be while he was the vice baby killer. and since that time , the options and stocks have gone up thousands of percentage point , why 10 billion in non bid contracts, do you think. He is in no way giving it away since he stepped down from his vice baby killer position. Yuk yuk! Pitiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The hatred is strong in this one..... And the hyperbole. And the dishonesty.

So... The Reagan WMDs.... Any word on those?

 

[jbander]

The hatred is strong in this one..... And the hyperbole. And the dishonesty.

So... The Reagan WMDs.... Any word on those?

Not a clue.

 

[Fledermaus]

Not a clue.

You insisted Reagan gave Iraq all their WMDs...

I would think you thought you had a clue...

Or was it just more of your hyperbolic nonsense?

 

[jbander]

You insisted Reagan gave Iraq all their WMDs...

I would think you thought you had a clue...

Or was it just more of your hyperbolic nonsense?

the Chemical weapons that Sadam used in their war with Iran and also Sadam using them on his countrymen, he got directly From Reagan, The worst President in our History. Reagan gave them two dozen viral and bacterial samples to Iraqi scientists in 1985- - See more at: History News Network | Did the United States Supply Saddam with Biological Weapons in the 1980s?. Some actually given to Iraqi ambassadors so they could be hand delivered.. Put a drop in a vat and culture a thousand gallons. Reagan and his slime buddies helped Sadam, massively with arms and help with his nuclear program and viral and bacterial weapon source.. The Bacterial and Viral weapons came through Rumsfeld and the Pharmaceutical industry that he came from.

 

[TurtleDude]

Except, when Bush used "WMD's" he was referring to nukes. I understand your desire to revise history, but the fact is, Bush LIED. And thousands died because of it.

As for Bush and Cheney, they are both convicted war criminals. That is why they never leave the country.

what do you think the lifespan would be of anyone who tried to arrest and jail Bush or any other former US president. I realize its a wet dream of the far left to hope that Bush or Cheney would be arrested and jailed by some fourth rate never was national actor but its not going to happen. Convicted by who? people who don't count and have no power

 

[TurtleDude]

You people are pitiful and quite sickening , you see nothing wrong with torture, in fact it seems to me that you actually like the idea. Proud, Good , flag waving ,conservative, patriotic, christian Americans. better known as the scum party.

Lets try some reality for once.

you're the chief of the LAPD or the NYPD or the Houston PD. other cities have been attacked with anthrax, dirty nukes or other WMD. You know your city is about to be so attacked. One of the bombers has been caught

what do you think is going to happen


and if you think only a "scum party" member would do what will be done, you are really not dealing with reality. The silly hate you spew is amusing but not very useful

 

[jbander]

Good bye!

 

[Fledermaus]

the Chemical weapons that Sadam used in their war with Iran and also Sadam using them on his countrymen, he got directly From Reagan, The worst President in our History. Reagan gave them two dozen viral and bacterial samples to Iraqi scientists in 1985- - See more at: History News Network | Did the United States Supply Saddam with Biological Weapons in the 1980s?. Some actually given to Iraqi ambassadors so they could be hand delivered.. Put a drop in a vat and culture a thousand gallons. Reagan and his slime buddies helped Sadam, massively with arms and help with his nuclear program and viral and bacterial weapon source.. The Bacterial and Viral weapons came through Rumsfeld and the Pharmaceutical industry that he came from.

I would ask you to back that up but we BOTH know you won't....

Because you do not understand what you are claiming....

CLUE: CHEMICALS are not BIOLOGICAL

Use in the Iran–Iraq War, 1983–1988

August 1983: Haij Umran – Mustard, fewer than 100 Iranian/Kurdish casualties
October–November 1983: Panjwin – Mustard, 3,000 Iranian/Kurdish casualties
February–March 1984: Majnoon Island – Mustard, 2,500 Iranian casualties
March 1984: al-Basrah – Tabun, 50–100 Iranian casualties
March 1985: Hawizah Marsh – Mustard and Tabun, 3,000 Iranian casualties
February 1986: al-Faw – Mustard and Tabun, 8,000 to 10,000 Iranian casualties
December 1986: Um ar-Rasas – Mustard, 1,000s Iranian casualties
April 1987: al-Basrah – Mustard and Tabun, 5,000 Iranian casualties
October 1987: Sumar/Mehran – Mustard and nerve agent, 3,000 Iranian casualties
March 1988: Halabjah and Kurdish area – Mustard and nerve agent, 1,000s Kurdish/Iranian casualties
April 1988: al-Faw – Mustard and nerve agent, 1,000s Iranian casualties
May 1988: Fish Lake – Mustard and nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties
June 1988: Majnoon Island – Mustard and nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties
July 1988: South-central border – Mustard and nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties

Do you see ANY biological agents there...

No, you don't. The CHEMICAL weapons used were produced in a GERMAN built factory.

BTW - The bolded pre-date 1985. So you are doubly wrong.

And the nuclear program? Wrong again. French. In fact a French civilian was killed when the reactor was bombed by the Israelis.

 

[Fledermaus]

Good bye!

Are you done lying then?

 

[TurtleDude]

Good bye!

where are you going? I want to know what is the "scum party" both parties pretty much have been doing the same thing in terms of foreign policy. Obama kept GITMO going

 

[Fledermaus]

In the early 1970s, Saddam Hussein ordered the creation of a clandestine nuclear weapons program.[17] Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs were assisted by a wide variety of firms and governments in the 1970s and 1980s.[18][19][20][21][22] As part of Project 922, German firms such as Karl Kobe helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. Five other German firms supplied equipment to manufacture botulin toxin and mycotoxin for germ warfare. In 1988, German engineers presented centrifuge data that helped Iraq expand its nuclear weapons program. Laboratory equipment and other information was provided, involving many German engineers. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin. The State Establishment for Pesticide Production (SEPP) ordered culture media and incubators from Germany's Water Engineering Trading.

 

[fmw]

Good bye!

If only that were true.