SNP dodge the monarchy question!

[Higgins86]

Scottish Independence: Queen Remaining Head Of State Would Be 'Up To The People' Says Aileen Campbell



What a kop out from the SNP! This quote stands out for me,


"They clearly want a referendum and a republic and the only thing stopping them from saying so is the knowledge that the Scottish people are comfortable with and support the monarchy and that by being honest about their intentions support for independence would slump even further.

"Scotland is facing its biggest decision for 300 years and the public deserve absolute clarity on what a separate Scotland would look like rather than the First Minister and his party contradicting each other over such a crucial issue."




So what's it going to be Mr Salmond are you going to be a republic or not?

 

[Fisher]

Why can Scotland not do like Canada and have the Queen as a figurehead (since she does spend an awful lot of time there) but for all intents and purposes operate as an independent nation?

 

[SMTA]

Why can Scotland not do like Canada and have the Queen as a figurehead (since she does spend an awful lot of time there) but for all intents and purposes operate as an independent nation?

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

 

[Shadow Serious]

I thought that they would accept the current monarch but after the Queen's passing then they would get persnickety about it since they now have the Scone of Stone.

 

[TiredOfLife]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

It sells a lot of crap and can be entertaining. That's some value.

 

[Fisher]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

Sure it does. Do you think people would visit England if there were not royal family? Without it, they are just another island.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

Actually they do quite a bit and have more value than most people realize.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

Well the people of England tried the concept of becoming a republic after the English civil war, England did not like the version of a republic being espoused by Oliver Cromwell and the puritans. From parlimentary monarchy to republic, then back to parlimentary monarchy again.

 

[Rainman05]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

Except that they pay out more to the state treasury than they take in.

 

[SMTA]

Actually they do quite a bit and have more value than most people realize.

And what, pray tell, would that be?

How much revenue for GB does the monarchy generate?

How much does the monarchy cost annually?

I'll bet the cost far outweighs the revenue.

 

[SMTA]

Well the people of England tried the concept of becoming a republic after the English civil war, England did not like the version of a republic being espoused by Oliver Cromwell and the puritans. From parlimentary monarchy to republic, then back to parlimentary monarchy again.

And the English mandate was also to rule the world, and that didn't work out, either.

What's your point?

 

[GottaGo]

For Scotland, the monarchy would likely be a token figurehead only, since their rule would have no affect once Scotland gains her independence.

 

[Penderyn]

Scottish Independence: Queen Remaining Head Of State Would Be 'Up To The People' Says Aileen Campbell



What a kop out from the SNP! This quote stands out for me,


"They clearly want a referendum and a republic and the only thing stopping them from saying so is the knowledge that the Scottish people are comfortable with and support the monarchy and that by being honest about their intentions support for independence would slump even further.

"Scotland is facing its biggest decision for 300 years and the public deserve absolute clarity on what a separate Scotland would look like rather than the First Minister and his party contradicting each other over such a crucial issue."




So what's it going to be Mr Salmond are you going to be a republic or not?

What a pointless fuss about nothing! Who cares?

 

[Higgins86]

What a pointless fuss about nothing! Who cares?

the scottish voters care....

 

[Higgins86]

And the English mandate was also to rule the world, and that didn't work out, either.

What's your point?

got closer than anyone else...

 

[Higgins86]

For Scotland, the monarchy would likely be a token figurehead only, since their rule would have no affect once Scotland gains her independence.

but that sthe point the SNP have been pushing to become a republic and to break away from England but yet they shy away from the monarchy quetsion because it might put off voters, seems to me like they want to have their cake and eat it.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

And the English mandate was also to rule the world, and that didn't work out, either.

What's your point?

How does any of this relate to the subject of how Scottish voters view the Monarchy and whether or not the SNP should push to become a republic?

 

[Peter King]

Screw the monarchy - all it does is suck cash from the people and provide no value.

Normally a monarchy brings in more cash than it costs. They bring in loads of tourism and loads of business contacts.

 

[Artevelde]

Normally a monarchy brings in more cash than it costs. They bring in loads of tourism and loads of business contacts.

That is very much a fairy tale.

 

[Peter King]

That is very much a fairy tale.

No, it is not a fairy tale. It could be that the UK monarchy is much more expensive but the Dutch monarchy makes loads of money for our country.

 

[Artevelde]

No, it is not a fairy tale. It could be that the UK monarchy is much more expensive but the Dutch monarchy makes loads of money for our country.

That is complete nonsense.

 

[Higgins86]

That is complete nonsense.

and do you have figures to back this up? You realise that the royals bring in over 100 million annually for tourism and royal events like theDiamond Jubilee celebrations generated billions of money for the struggling economy. Through merchandise, eating out/ drinking on the bank holiday weekend etc.

 

[Artevelde]

and do you have figures to back this up? You realise that the royals bring in over 100 million annually for tourism and royal events like theDiamond Jubilee celebrations generated billions of money for the struggling economy. Through merchandise, eating out/ drinking on the bank holiday weekend etc.

The idea that the British tourist industry is dependent on the royals is ludicrous. As are the "figures" you cite.

Every country is free to choose the form of government it wants. But nothing changes the fact that monarchies are very expensive and inherently anti-democratic.

 

[Higgins86]

The idea that the British tourist industry is dependent on the royals is ludicrous. As are the "figures" you cite.

Every country is free to choose the form of government it wants. But nothing changes the fact that monarchies are very expensive and inherently anti-democratic.

this is an example of how we spend money during major royal events like last years jubilee which helped boost the economy



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...-jubilee-souvenirs-brits-spend_n_1562189.html


Generally they bring in about £176M in tourism money not including special events etc.



Also given the fact we are a democracy why does It matter if we decide to keep our royalty as well? May I ask where you are from?

 

[Artevelde]

this is an example of how we spend money during major royal events like last years jubilee which helped boost the economy



Queen's Diamond Jubilee: Brits Will Spend £823m On


Generally they bring in about £176M in tourism money not including special events etc.



Also given the fact we are a democracy why does It matter if we decide to keep our royalty as well? May I ask where you are from?

How much of the taxpayer's money was spent on the jubilee? How much is spent every year on the upkeep and security of the various residences of the Royal Family? How much do the taks exemptions thy enjoy cost? How much does their staff cost?

I'm from Belgium by the way.