Who says men don't effect climate?
Odd. You didn’t bother to actually address the points I made, and once again pretend that because something was written somewhere respectable means it applies to the debate.
Guess you didn’t know the difference between snow extent and snowfall, or what the IPCC actually predicted.
That’s OK.
I see you’re diverting to paleoclimate stuff now, which you have learned in other threads is ‘irrelevant’ to what we are actually discussing now.
I may have missed with the poly sci guess. Maybe psychology? Undeclared?
Umm... so I ask about your assertion that the IPCC predicted less snowfall in the Northern Hemisphere and you link to something about ice storms? And the only mention is a decrease in heavy snowstorms but says nothing about overall snow totals?
The IPCC in several reports clearly say there would be LESS snow and more rain/freezing rain in the winter time. Yet we get the very opposite.
Warmists keeps rationalizing their modeling failures.
Well, this describes the weather in the Midwest over the last decade or two.
When I was a kind, rain in January would be just bizarre. Now, it’s common.
But then again, regional stuff is regional stuff.
You know perfectly well that what you did was rationalize away a teeny spot in North America.
Rutgers Snow Laws shows a significant Winter Snowfall increase
https://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcove...nd&ui_season=1
Growth in Fall time too, but winter is the most important part since that is the time frame the IPCC centered on.
...and where exactly in the IPCC did it say snow would lessen in the Northern Hemisphere?
15.2.4.1.2.4. Ice Storms
Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms but could cause an increase in freezing rain if average daily temperatures fluctuate about the freezing point.
I can see that your question is designed to become a goal post set up.
Umm... so I ask about your assertion that the IPCC predicted less snowfall in the Northern Hemisphere and you link to something about ice storms? And the only mention is a decrease in heavy snowstorms but says nothing about overall snow totals?
And then you whine about ME moving goalposts?
Climate change deniers that's who. They somehow think that man releasing millions of years of trapped carbon in a few hundred cannot change our climate.
Odd. You didn’t bother to actually address the points I made, and once again pretend that because something was written somewhere respectable means it applies to the debate.
Guess you didn’t know the difference between snow extent and snowfall, or what the IPCC actually predicted.
15.2.4.1.2.4. Ice Storms
Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms but could cause an increase in freezing rain if average daily temperatures fluctuate about the freezing point.
Still waiting for Threegoofs to show I was wrong on anything I wrote about snow and cold.
He writes this:
When did you first bring up the difference between extent and snowfall statement?
How does it relate to what the he he... ha ha.... IPCC stated?
Which never talked about the difference at all, just FEWER Heavy Snow storms only. You have yet to factually county my many linked evidence that shows there are increasing snow and cold going on.
Erie, Pennsylvania, Has Broken Its All-Time Snow Season Record
And there are lots of other examples of increased snowfall this winter from all over the world.
But bona fide climate science predictions about the end of snow have been pushed off into the future.
A group of government climate scientists in Hawaii predict an end of snow on peaks of Hawaiian volcanos (it's normal for snow to fall there) by the end of this century.
Another group at UCLA predicts a reduction of snow in the Sierras by the end of the century. Link
Also, an Irish group of government climate scientists makes a similar claim.
We no longer seem to have these moments where scientists and advocates predict the end of snow in 5 years. That sort of thing hasn't been working out for them.
It's safe enough for them to predict that there will be no snow in 70 years. They'll all probably be retired by them.
So you think this graph is a measure of snowfall?
You should learn something about this stuff before you post.
15.2.4.1.2.4. Ice Storms
Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms but could cause an increase in freezing rain if average daily temperatures fluctuate about the freezing point.
The IPCC in several reports clearly say there would be LESS snow and more rain/freezing rain in the winter time. Yet we get the very opposite.
Warmists keeps rationalizing their modeling failures.
You are too lazy to see that all the information came from the IPCC, Rutgers Snow Labs, American Meteorology Society, several published science papers (Listed) and all those no warming links are from original sources (mostly published science papers). NONE of it was made by Kenneth Richards the author of the post.
Already showed that large areas of Southern Hemisphere NOT warming at all.
Since you never offered an actual counterpoint to the articles, or my posts..................., it is clear you are full of hot air.
You are a hypocrite because you are same one who fell deeply in love with a H. Stick paper that covered the Northern Hemisphere only, yet you treat it like it was global.
:roll:
Actually primitive man was likely to blame the weather on the Gods. It appear Conservatives have revived those ancient superstitions because they don't believe man can affect climate. Thanks for pointing that out.
Now Threegoofs keeps banging his head on the wall and doesn't try to disprove anything I posted, he seems unable to see that the IPCC made a full statement concerning the planet:
Climate change deniers that's who. They somehow think that man releasing millions of years of trapped carbon in a few hundred cannot change our climate.
Oh really? you didn't support your claim. What you say is a lie anyway since most skeptics allow for some CO2 warm forcing effect.
Now I have a new question, who is denying climate change?
What change of climate have you seen?
I see minimal changes in temperatures, but it can still be natural. So the climate is slightly warmer. That isn't a change of climate!
I respond to a blanket charge that skeptics deny climate change EXIST. That is why I challenged him on it since it seems absurd to make such a claim.
Climate change deniers that's who. They somehow think that man releasing millions of years of trapped carbon in a few hundred cannot change our climate.
I would say AGW exists, but haven't seen an example of the climate changing.
One reason why I don't respond to him any longer. It's a wast of time i don't have in my life.
Already have one on ignore who is even worse that he is.
:shock:
Once again:
Milder winter temperatures (False)
Less Heavy Snowfall (false)
Then showed why the IPCC is wrong in SEVERAL WAYS.
Posting that shows the evidence:
Post 342
Rutgers Snow Labs
Large increase in Blizzards
Large areas of the planet cooling for at least 60 years.
There are plenty more links showing that it is increasing snowfall totals, over a wider area and getting colder in the winter.
I covered all the bases.
Meanwhile you complain about my not seeing Snowfall extent. If it is covering a larger area over time as the chart clearly shows then yes it is an increase in snow cover. which generally mean more total snow too A warming world would be REDUCING the snowfall extent.
DUH!
You should learn to THINK about the stuff before you post.
Climate change deniers that's who. They somehow think that man releasing millions of years of trapped carbon in a few hundred cannot change our climate.
Can you find one such person here?
Does that person psot often here?
What about all the other people here who disagree with the painc mongers, the Skeptics, who have a very rational position?
I’ll leave my personal experience out of it... but let’s just say I’ve been the boss of many research assistants in my career...
And she hasn’t done research on polar bear habitat, populations or ecology. That’s kinda important when you are proclaiming to be an expert on those things.
I don’t know why this simple basic fact is so hard to understand. Especially for a ‘scientific research assistant’!
LOL...
Data of guesses. It can't be any less accurate than the types of proxy samples used for so many things.
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