It wasn't my intention to go down that road. And if I did I'd get the usual howler-monkey noises from certain quarters, whooping I'd have to retaliate to.
That's the nub of the 'relevance' thing. Those links proved some people do indeed speak of England having 'no culture'. I've had people wanting me to back up every single sentence on pain of whingeing for too long!
And as for MacPherson, I'm not going to get deeper into a race thing here further than answering this point. If an impartial body can prove that racists in the police force actively protected the murderers of a black boy, then sack them. I've no problem with that. I find such a claim of corruption on such a scale hard to swallow, especially when listening to some creepo Labour bloke pontificating, but if that's the case then so be it.
But genaralising to the extent that anyone else doing it would be slammed as a simpleton by the Left shows some darker motive. Racists in the force? Arguable, especially with flexible criteria. But 'institutionally' racist to a 'person'? 'Of course all white people are racist'?
Dumb.
You do struggle with logical argument, RoP. You contradict your own logic here. You argue that because SOME people argue that Britain has no culture, and because you classify them as being on the left, then that's the position of 'the Left'. In the very same post you argue that because SOME police officers act in a racist fashion DOES NOT mean that the Met is institutionally racist, as not ALL police officers are. Which is it to be?
Of course, one of your problems with the latter case is that not all police officers have to behave in a racist way for the organisation itself to show signs of institutional racism.
From wiki:
"The term institutional racism was coined by Stokely Carmichael, the black nationalist, pan-Africanist and "honorary prime minister" of the Black Panther Party, who, in the late 1960s, defined institutional racism as “the collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their color, culture, or ethnic origin”
Collective failure doesn't mean that everyone in the force exhibits racist attitudes and behaviour, but as a collective, the Force does.
Now, in claiming that there are people on the left who believe that Britain has no culture (although I note that your sources are The Rough Guides and a bunch of student debate forum posts), and that therefore the Left as a whole denigrates British culture , you might have a point if you could demonstrate that a proportion of the organised Left were arguing same. Then the Left indeed would have a charge to answer of being 'institutionally racist' against the English. Mind you, I'm not sure how the term applies to people who appear to be discriminating against, rather than in favour of, their own 'race'.
So, here's your opportunity. Prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the organised Left is institutionally racist against the English. That means
prima facie (i.e. no Daily Mail opinion columns) evidence of leading figures and the manifestos and constitutions of mainstream left-wing parties and organisations being specific in their promotion of policies against British, or even just English people.
