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Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote


So in other words - you don't want balance on the bench. You want judicial activism that will bend to your ultra-left policies.

Figures. I expect nothing less of you.
 

Everybody is ignorant about something...and some... a lot of things. Apparently we aren't omni-potent beings.

That said:

Which political entity do you want to define "Ignorant" and then enact a voting law around that specific definition?
 
I hope so too. And I hope in defining "health of the mother" they take into account emotional health, that rape victims who have ended the rape pregnancy with an abortion, are 5 times more likely to commit suicide than rape victims who bring the baby to term, and women who are not rape victims, who have abortions, have an overall 3 times higher suicide risk than women who have given birth. It should also be taken into account how much lower the cancer rate is among women who have given birth than among women who have not, and how much longer the elderly live who have grandchildren than the elderly who do not.
 
No, not ignorance, WILLFUL ignorance. There's a difference between just being human ans as a result, not having all the answers, and being an irresponsible jerk, inflicting the results of one's vote on everyone else without trying to get any of the answers. No, not a political entity, schoolteachers, because determining whether a person is participating in their education, is within their professional expertise. Teachers of private schools only, so that they don't have the conflict of interest, of being government employees.
 
AmericanWoman76 said:
Teachers are best qualified to define a measurement of whether a person is participating in their own education. It's within their professional expertise. It should be done by teachers of private schools only, so that there's no conflict of interest.
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I personally believe its the parents responsibility.
 
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Never say never my left wing friend.
 
Navy Pride said:

I personally believe its the parents responsibility.
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voters' parents should vouch for whether voters have made an effort to educate themselves of the candidates and issues? NO! 1) most of the well-informed voters have outlived their parents 2) most parents would just sign the note randomly upon request. 3) willfully ignorant voters usually learned how to be willfully ignorant from their parents.
 

Just a thought if you are responding to someone you can use the "Reply With Quote" option
 

I'd say that conservatives would have a problem with that...because most teachers are seen as liberals. So their definition and tests...might not be agreeable with the conservative public.
 
Removable Mind said:
I'd say that conservatives would have a problem with that...because most teachers are seen as liberals. So their definition and tests...might not be agreeable with the conservative public.
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You are right I want a teacher to teach my children the 3 Rs reading, writting and arithmatic. Nothing else....
 
Removable Mind said:
I'd say that conservatives would have a problem with that...because most teachers are seen as liberals. So their definition and tests...might not be agreeable with the conservative public.
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They'd be making the same definition of informing oneself, for everyone, so conservatives would be total asshats to make that objection.
 
Navy Pride said:
You are right I want a teacher to teach my children the 3 Rs reading, writting and arithmatic. Nothing else....
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You don't want a teacher teaching your child how to learn? That's so sad.
 
AmericanWoman76 said:
You don't want a teacher teaching your child how to learn? That's so sad.
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]If she/he can teach them the 3Rs which she/he is paid to do I will take care of the rest.........I don't want a teaccher teaching my children their personal politics, religion sex. For example if its and English teacher I want him or her to teach English not for who to vote for. We have had 4 children and that policy worked out fine....If you find that policy sad I am sorry.
 
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I never advocated teachers teaching politics. good teachers teach children how to parrot information thrust at them, bad teachers teach children how to think and learn. evidently you have had bad teachers.
 



I never advocated teachers teaching politics. bad teachers teach children how to parrot information thrust at them, good teachers teach children how to think and learn. evidently you have had bad teachers.
 
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They'd be making the same definition of informing oneself, for everyone, so conservatives would be total asshats to make that objection.
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I think your idea might conflict with the Voting Rights Act. It's not against the law to be ignorant..willfully or not. If there was such a law...there wouldn't be enough jails.
 
Removable Mind said:
I think your idea might conflict with the Voting Rights Act. It's not against the law to be ignorant..willfully or not. If there was such a law...there wouldn't be enough jails.
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you don't know the difference between being allowed to vote and being locked in jail?
 
AmericanWoman76 said:
I never advocated teachers teaching politics. good teachers teach children how to parrot information thrust at them, bad teachers teach children how to think and learn. evidently you have had bad teachers.
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Nope, I sent my kids to Catholic school for 12 years and they did just fine....I am giving you a hypothetical.......You don't want to use my actual children as and example because they all have college degrees, one is a PHD.


You do know a lot of teachers teach their personal beliefs right?
 


your hypothetical is way off topic, the question was who is best qualified to determine whether a person is actively seeking to educate themselves. If that's apolitical belief, it would be Democracy, not Democrat, by the way. Do your hypothetical offspring know the difference between a Democracy and a Democrat? Why don't you want to use your own children as an example? Are you afraid that your
PhD grown children would prove you wrong by opening up a dictionary to the definition of teacher and to the definition of democracy?
 
AmericanWoman76 said:
you don't know the difference between being allowed to vote and being locked in jail?
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To people who would consider themselves being discriminated against...much like black were when given tests in order to vote...would most likely see themselves disenfranchised....and in sort of a social jail.
 
AmericanWoman76 said:
I never advocated teachers teaching politics. bad teachers teach children how to parrot information thrust at them, good teachers teach children how to think and learn. evidently you have had bad teachers.
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I am very sorry for the huge font..Having computer problems...think I have it resolved now.
 
Removable Mind said:
To people who would consider themselves being discriminated against...much like black were when given tests in order to vote...would most likely see themselves disenfranchised....and in sort of a social jail.
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Oh, an imaginary jail. don't worry, they have plenty of space, there's even imaginary jail planets on cartoon network. I'd love to chat with you about reality-based politics when you get back to reality.
 

I see it 5-4 Conservative right now as Kennedy usually votes with the Conservatives. you lose again.
 
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