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Should we require all U.S citizens to spend two years overseas? [W:120]

Should all citizens be required to spend two years abroad?

  • Yes, it increases tolerance, improves our foreign relations, and opens minds

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • No, I don't think we should learn more about other cultures

    Votes: 9 60.0%
  • Maybe a different program, such as volunteering in underprivileged communities

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.
 

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Yeah, if we're all going to Iran and Venezuela, ill be calling in sick that day.
 

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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.

No I don't think people should be forced to leave their home country for two years. That's basically the antithesis of everything this country was founded on.

I also think this would largely backfire. Quite likely being forced to go another country will actually build up resentment toward foreign cultures.

It also seems like a waste to spend all that money to pay for everyone's living expenses in a foreign country. At least much of that military budget gets reinvested back in the US.
 

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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.

Yes of course. How else are we going to complete our global crusade if our citizens aren't under arms? A properly equipped and deployed citizenry will learn more about the world that we conquer and thus have a greater appreciate of our ever expanding Empire.
 

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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.

I'll buy you a ticket to North Korea. You want it?
 

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NPR recently ran a story about how 1 out of every 2 patients that have routine surgery in Venezuela end up getting an infection, because Venezuelan doctors lack clean water and antibacterial soap to properly wash before performing surgery.

Try telling Americans that they must go get culturally enriched in Venezuela, and see how that goes.
 

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I'll buy you a ticket to North Korea. You want it?

Check my other thread, North Korea is a perfect example of what happens when a right wing government takes power. Militarism, misogyny, prejudice , ethnocentrism.

I'll pass on your offer.
 
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No I don't think people should be forced to leave their home country for two years. That's basically the antithesis of everything this country was founded on.

I also think this would largely backfire. Quite likely being forced to go another country will actually build up resentment toward foreign cultures.

It also seems like a waste to spend all that money to pay for everyone's living expenses in a foreign country. At least much of that military budget gets reinvested back in the US.

500 billion dollars a year in military spending is nothing but wasteful when we outspend the next five countries (some of whom are our allies) combined.

So what if people resent being required to open their horizons a first? They can choose between the horrors of a two year vacation or a two year prison sentence. I think I know what most people would pick.
 

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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.

I vote not required... But a nice thing.

Travel to other countries and learn that racism wears many masks....

Go to many African sites and learn how the various groups hate each other.

Go to Mexico and see how the Mayans and other Indigenas are looked down upon by others,

Yep...
 

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I vote not required... But a nice thing.

Travel to other countries and learn that racism wears many masks....

Go to many African sites and learn how the various groups hate each other.

Go to Mexico and see how the Mayans and other Indigenas are looked down upon by others,

Yep...

That isn't racism. That may be prejudice, but it is not racism, since people of color cannot be racist. Racism requires prejudice and power, and people of color have neither.
 

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500 billion dollars a year in military spending is nothing but wasteful when we outspend the next five countries (some of whom are our allies) combined.

Perhaps, but at the very least most military spending is reinvested in the U.S., soldiers salaries being spent on goods here for instance. Money spent on Americans living abroad would almost entirely not be.

So what if people resent being required to open their horizons a first? They can choose between the horrors of a two year vacation or a two year prison sentence. I think I know what most people would pick.

They would probably resent being forced to leave the comfort of their lives for two years. They would very likely pick living abroad, but I can't imagine most would be happy about it.
 

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That isn't racism. That may be prejudice, but it is not racism, since people of color cannot be racist. Racism requires prejudice and power, and people of color have neither.

No matter how many times you post this retarded lie it will never be true LMAO
SOrry facts and definitions destroy your claim and prove it factually wrong :laughat:
 

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Perhaps, but at the very least most military spending is reinvested in the U.S., soldiers salaries being spent on goods here for instance. Money spent on Americans living abroad would almost entirely not be.



They would probably resent being forced to leave the comfort of their lives for two years. They would very likely pick living abroad, but I can't imagine most would be happy about it.

They don't need to be happy about it. They just need to go and broaden their minds and spend two years under a completely different system of government, and come back more tolerant and educated for it.
 

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The vast majority of our country's problems comes from our ignorance. Many young men and women in the "Bible Belt" have never been outside their home state before, let alone the country. They have never seen a world where police are unarmed and do not summarily execute people of color. They have never seen a world where private gun ownership is outlawed, and the public is safer because of it. They have never seen a world where the government pays for the healthcare bills of average citizens, and where the rich happily pay their fair share of taxes for the benefit of the public. They have never seen a world where Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Ho Chi Minh are not demonized by biased teachers and textbooks, but are treated and respected as the heroes they are.

I believe that all U.S citizens should be required to spend at least two years of their lives in a foreign country. This includes citizens from all over, regardless if they come for New York or Dallas, whether they are farmers or bankers. Special focus would be given on visiting countries that many citizens have been taught are their "enemies," and exploring the rich and profound culture and humanity of countries who are governed by revolutionaries, not reactionaries. China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Iran, etc. Visiting other white dominated, capitalist countries such as Belgium or Canada or Israel would not fulfill this two year obligation.

If a citizen refuses to broaden his/her horizons and open their minds to other lifestyles around the world, they would be rightfully punished. Perhaps their right to vote could be suspended until this travel obligation is fulfilled, or maybe a prison term would also be a good punishment. While it seems harsh, these people have demonstrated their xenophobia and racism, and have shown that they will do nothing but hold progress back in this country.

The government would pay for all travel arrangements. We could afford this by cutting our military budget from 500 billion a year to 100 billion a year, in line with other countries our size such as India or China.

If this program were implemented, I believe that the citizens, voters, and leaders of the future would be far more open minded, well informed, and tolerant than citizens today currently are. We would have fewer unprovoked wars of aggression in other countries, both due to the increased tolerance and our decreased military budget. I truly believe that requiring all citizens to spend two years abroad would pay dividends for the future of the USA.
I do wish you would stop using the term We, you are not one of us. A commie talking about tolerance and open mindedness, now there is a twist on reality.
 

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They don't need to be happy about it. They just need to go and broaden their minds and spend two years under a completely different system of government, and come back more tolerant and educated for it.

Or resentful and pissed off. I honestly think you'd end up with exactly the opposite of what you want here.
 

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Check my other thread, North Korea is a perfect example of what happens when a right wing government takes power. Militarism, misogyny, racism, ethnocentrism.

I'll pass on your offer.

Surprise, surprise.
 

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Zimbabwe....

Zimbabwe is a perfect case of people of color defending themselves against imperialism and overthrowing a racist and bigoted system. Black Zimbabweans suffered under apartheid for nearly a century, and now they are dismantling the white privelege and domination of their land which has caused so much pain and bigotry.
 
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