Should we legalize Industrial Hemp in the USA (1 Viewer)

[jamesrage]

First, yours is not a liberty oriented approach. You are still outlawing adults from possessing a plant based on your own views on the relative worth of said activity. Liberty and oppression are not interchangable terms.

Let me guess you are pothead?This is why people do not buy the "they just want to grow hemp " crap.Because when potheads are advocating such things as hemp it just looks like code for we want to grow marijuana without getting hassled.I was a pothead once.

Second, I'm only speculating on the potential abuse such a system could spawn. Like I said, your system may be workable.

I think that if it was legal to grow hemp with out any strings attached there would be a shitload of abuse by individuals claiming "only to be growing hemp".

 

[zymurgy]

Let me guess you are pothead?This is why people do not buy the "they just want to grow hemp " crap.Because when potheads are advocating such things as hemp it just looks like code for we want to grow marijuana without getting hassled.I was a pothead once.

I gave it a try a good 20 years ago. Never understood the big deal to be honest. It made me hungry and then tired a short while later.

Alcohol is my vice and I would be lying to claim it is the safer or more responbilbe activity. Neither provide any social redeeming values whatsoever but I would be a hypocrite to argue that my choice of drugs are acceptable and some "potheads" choice is not.

I think that if it was legal to grow hemp with out any strings attached there would be a shitload of abuse by individuals claiming "only to be growing hemp".

I could live with that type of risk.

 

[jamesrage]

I gave it a try a good 20 years ago. Never understood the big deal to be honest. It made me hungry and then tired a short while later.

Alcohol is my vice and I would be lying to claim it is the safer or more responbilbe activity. Neither provide any social redeeming values whatsoever but I would be a hypocrite to argue that my choice of drugs are acceptable and some "potheads" choice is not.

I used to smoke lots of weed and drink lots of alcohol.Today I do niether,I do not even smoke cigarettes anymore.I do not think we need to add another recreational drug to the problem.

I could live with that type of risk.

IF hemp is going to be legal there should be some strict requirements such as what faithful_servant suggested.I think the threat of a cop being able to search your home and property at any time as a condition to be able to grow hemp would keep many growers honest.Because I do think alot of potheads would use hemp as a front for growing marijuana.

 

[zymurgy]

I used to smoke lots of weed and drink lots of alcohol.Today I do niether,I do not even smoke cigarettes anymore.I do not think we need to add another recreational drug to the problem.

We wouldn't be adding a new recreational drug. It already exists and is so common that virtually all of us have tried it at one time or another.

 

[faithful_servant]

We wouldn't be adding a new recreational drug. It already exists and is so common that virtually all of us have tried it at one time or another.

z, if legalizing pot would cause the death of even one innocent person who wouldn't otherwise be dead, why legalize it? Why give people who are stupid enough to drive intoxicated one more way to be stupid and kill innocent people? What's the point? Give me ONE good reason why legalizing pot would be of any benefit that would outweigh the life of a twelve year old girl playing in her front yard when some legally stoned idiot dozed off and ran her down. And before you start comparing pot to alchohol, remember that just because we allow stupidity in one area does not justify allowing it in every area.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

faithful_servant,

z, if legalizing pot would cause the death of even one innocent person who wouldn't otherwise be dead, why legalize it? Why give people who are stupid enough to drive intoxicated one more way to be stupid and kill innocent people? What's the point? Give me ONE good reason why legalizing pot would be of any benefit that would outweigh the life of a twelve year old girl playing in her front yard when some legally stoned idiot dozed off and ran her down. And before you start comparing pot to alchohol, remember that just because we allow stupidity in one area does not justify allowing it in every area.

Nice post!

 

[zymurgy]

z, if legalizing pot would cause the death of even one innocent person who wouldn't otherwise be dead, why legalize it? Why give people who are stupid enough to drive intoxicated one more way to be stupid and kill innocent people? What's the point? Give me ONE good reason why legalizing pot would be of any benefit that would outweigh the life of a twelve year old girl playing in her front yard when some legally stoned idiot dozed off and ran her down. And before you start comparing pot to alchohol, remember that just because we allow stupidity in one area does not justify allowing it in every area.

We legalize it because individual liberty trumps everything else. Our goverment was formed to protect individual liberty and minority rights.

Why would we prefer to let 9 serial killers go then lock up the 1 innocent person accused of being a serial killer?

Because individual liberty trumps all.

 

[::Major_Baker::]

z, if legalizing pot would cause the death of even one innocent person who wouldn't otherwise be dead, why legalize it? Why give people who are stupid enough to drive intoxicated one more way to be stupid and kill innocent people? What's the point? Give me ONE good reason why legalizing pot would be of any benefit that would outweigh the life of a twelve year old girl playing in her front yard when some legally stoned idiot dozed off and ran her down. And before you start comparing pot to alchohol, remember that just because we allow stupidity in one area does not justify allowing it in every area.

COME ON FS!
this argument lacks a lot.


If the life of twelve year old girls was our criteria for legalization of things...

we should not have:
diet drugs
roller coasters
industrial chemicals
cars

etc...

You get my point. Besides the fact that pot rarely is associated with accidents--not nearly as much as alcohol is anyways....
If pepcid AC caused heart tremors in a man, which caused him to pass out while driving down the road, swerve into a yard and kill someone, should Pepcid be outlawed?


your argument is just wayyyyyy tooooo simplistic dude

 

[faithful_servant]

We legalize it because individual liberty trumps everything else. Our goverment was formed to protect individual liberty and minority rights.

Why would we prefer to let 9 serial killers go then lock up the 1 innocent person accused of being a serial killer?

Because individual liberty trumps all.

...and personal responsibility means absolutely nothing????

 

[faithful_servant]

COME ON FS!
this argument lacks a lot.


If the life of twelve year old girls was our criteria for legalization of things...

we should not have:
diet drugs
roller coasters
industrial chemicals
cars

etc...

You get my point. Besides the fact that pot rarely is associated with accidents--not nearly as much as alcohol is anyways....
If pepcid AC caused heart tremors in a man, which caused him to pass out while driving down the road, swerve into a yard and kill someone, should Pepcid be outlawed?


your argument is just wayyyyyy tooooo simplistic dude

The point is very simplistic for me, Major. Drunk drivers are a major killer. To increase the availability of a substance that WILL contribute to this death count is flat out STUPID. There is no other word for it - it's STUPID!! If there is NO possible reason to put other people's lives at risk unnecessarily other than some clowns desire to get high, then why do it?? Show me just one reason for making something legal that WILL kill people for no reason other than to get high.

 

[zymurgy]

...and personal responsibility means absolutely nothing????

Of course it does.

The one person that uses a substance and harms another would be personally responsible for their actions.

 

[zymurgy]

The point is very simplistic for me, Major. Drunk drivers are a major killer. To increase the availability of a substance that WILL contribute to this death count is flat out STUPID. There is no other word for it - it's STUPID!! If there is NO possible reason to put other people's lives at risk unnecessarily other than some clowns desire to get high, then why do it?? Show me just one reason for making something legal that WILL kill people for no reason other than to get high.

There are countless reasons.

The most important is that goverment should never be formed to control a persons body.

Your argument is pretty weak. Innocent people have been killed by police storming the wrong house with a warrant and shooting the surprised owner that attempts to defend himself. Thousands of innocent people are killed in a drug trade that only exists because of illegalization.

 

[cherokee]

Should we legalize Industrial Hemp in the USA...


You people are going off............


People smoking Industrial Hemp will not get stoned. Its THC is too low.

 

[jamesrage]

We wouldn't be adding a new recreational drug. It already exists and is so common that virtually all of us have tried it at one time or another.

We would be making it alot easier to get away with growing and distributing a recreational drug if we legalized hemp.Alot of people can not tell the difference between weed and hemp just by looking at it.Alot of potheads would use this to their advantage.

 

[afr0byte]

We would be making it alot easier to get away with growing and distributing a recreational drug if we legalized hemp.Alot of people can not tell the difference between weed and hemp just by looking at it.Alot of potheads would use this to their advantage.

Well, just think about how it would help our economy. The junk food industry would boom even more.

 

[jamesrage]

Well, just think about how it would help our economy. The junk food industry would boom even more.

America has a obesity epidemic.It would proably cost taxpayers more in medical bills to treat illnesses associated with obesity than the amount of tax revenue generated by junk food sales..

 

[zymurgy]

We would be making it alot easier to get away with growing and distributing a recreational drug if we legalized hemp.Alot of people can not tell the difference between weed and hemp just by looking at it.Alot of potheads would use this to their advantage.

This is absolutely true.

In fact, I don't believe a difference can even be distinguished with the naked eye until the last couple months of the life of a plant.

And in the case of a male plant, even the last couple months wouldn't make any difference.

Its funny. Pyilosbin(sp?) mushrooms spores are completely legal, only the cultivation of those spores is illegal. A certain psycoactive cactus is one of the most common kinds of landscaping cactus in existance. You can buy it at pretty much any home depot. The relevancy of all of this? None. Just useless trivia I have been informed of.

 

[afr0byte]

America has a obesity epidemic.It would proably cost taxpayers more in medical bills to treat illnesses associated with obesity than the amount of tax revenue generated by junk food sales..

Well, I was mostly joking in my last post, but OK.