Since you are clearly an idiot, I've snipped most of the dumbass references to "liberals" and what you think "the liberals" believe, and only responded to those few statements resembling a coherent argument.
SKILMATIC said:
What is there to question and provide? Heres your answer. When there is a cause there is a reaction. Its simple science. When a terrorist commits attrocities against the American people the reaction to that attrocity is several 2000pd bombs just so happen to drop in their backyard. Hows that for a solution to the problem? You dont like it? Fine, move there and see how long these people will reason with you.
It's a matter of practicality. If you believe that the solution to every anti-American action anywhere in the world is to respond hyper-aggressively, you fail to recognize that the American military and economy are not infinitely powerful. Furthermore, you are no different than those you claim to be opposing.
To use an analogy, if a kid is being bullied in school it might be a good idea for him to hit the bully back so that future bullying will stop. The fallacy, of course, is when the kid applies this to every situation and starts hitting everyone who crosses him. He then becomes a bully himself. This seems to be what you're proposing on an international level.
SKILMATIC said:
Like i said this argument falls under the So typical
Oh no, my argument is "so typical." Wow, your brilliant reasoning convinced me of the error of my ways. Wait, no it didn't.
SKILMATIC said:
Again this falls under the "its our fault cause we we got in the way of the car bombs." No responsibility for the people who actually put the bombs in the cars then proceeded to blow the car up when it would hurt as many people as possible.
Again, it has nothing to do with who is "responsible" for it, it's about the most practical way to solve the problem. Do you deny that Americans are being murdered by car bombs and other forms of terrorism in Iraq today? Do you deny that Americans were NOT being murdered by car bombs and other forms of terrorism in Iraq prior to the invasion? Common sense indicates that if there aren't American soldiers in Iraq, American soldiers won't die in Iraq.
SKILMATIC said:
This is the biggest lie I have ever heard.
The insurgency is just as strong as its ever been. You can tout the virtues of democracy all you want, but the fact is that the instances of terrorism in Iraq (which is supposedly why we're there) are just as high as ever.
SKILMATIC said:
We dont have too. If liberlism would just cease to exist in the world and everyone can understand that this enemy doesnt care for anyone no matter what anyone will say is when we can all band together and fight this threat and exterminate its existance. But this will never happen as long as mental cases remain on this earth.
Demonizing one's enemies is as old as history. The fact is that most of Iraq's insurgents aren't evildoers who worship Osama Bin Laden and want to establish a worldwide caliphate. Most of them are ordinary Iraqis who want us out of their country. Their actions aren't honorable, but they are certainly understandable, at least from the perspective of those of us who aren't ethnocentric xenophobes.
SKILMATIC said:
I never said it would turn out any better so I would appreciate it if you didnt put words in my mouth like liberals have problems doing. However, I said it should and needs to be done. Whoever said war and occupation is a walk in the park? You see liberals expect war to be sh!ts and giggles and its quite the opposite. When you mental cases snap out of it and open to reality instead of your utopianistic world then you can understand whats really going on.
OK, if my model is utopianistic, let's establish a simple cost/benefit analysis of the war in Iraq. You can draw your own conclusions about similar benefits from possible invasions of other countries.
COSTS OF IRAQ WAR:
2,000 American lives
Hundreds of billions of dollars ($1,000 per American that could've been spent on education, medicine, food, or anything else)
Decline in America's worldwide reputation
Less American influence outside of Middle East
Troops stretched dangerously thin
Creation of a terrorist insurgency
Possible loss of an ally in Turkey
BENEFITS OF IRAQ WAR:
Emerging democracy (it remains to be seen if this is any benefit to America)
Possible gain of an ally in Iraq
Overthrow of a random dictator who posed no threat to us
Looking at these costs/benefits, it's clear that the war in Iraq clearly was NOT worth it. Similar cases can be made against invading Syria and Iran, only now we have the added bonus of ALREADY being bogged down in a quagmire.
And if you're going to respond to this, stick with actual logical arguments rather than statements about how much Duh Libruhls Hate Amurka.