We moved out to Western Canada in 96- I was in the Military- Wife went thru temp agencies.I happened to marry a man who got transferred a lot and we mutually agreed from the beginning that he would be the primary bread winner. That meant I had to start over in each new town. The temp agencies were a wonderful way to go right back to work while I learned the ropes of the new place and figured out where the permanent jobs were. I never had to work in the temp jobs for long, but some of my coworkers preferred the temp agency for the flexibility and variety it offered. And they pretty much made a career of it turning down permanent job offers that came their way.
If you don't like temp agencies, though, how about getting behind those of us who are promoting a strong, healthy, economy and lots of real job creation in the private sector. Find enough good jobs for folks to take, and it will put the temp agencies out of business.
I already can't get you to engage what I have said, now you want to say don't make post that are lies if you want a debate? :lamoPlease show me where I said what you claimed I did, which was some argument against laws being followed in states. I never said any such thing. If you want a debate, don't make posts that are lies.
I already can't get you to engage what I have said, now you want to say don't make post that are lies if you want a debate? :lamo
Honey, you don't have to say another word. Your previous ones illustrate the futility of trying to have a conversation with you. You have convinced me of the monumental waste of time of mine that would be, particularly since I'm supposed to lying anyway.:roll:Once again, since you're new, I'll repeat myself for you and assume you have no idea how we debate on this board.
You said I was arguing against laws being followed in states.
I never said anything about laws. I never said anything about states.
So either you're confusing me with someone else, or you aren't paying attention to who you're quoting. If you'd like to debate my posts, please do so. But don't ask me to debate about something I never said.
i wonder if this is a region and or industry thing???
because in the pittsburgh area temp agencies pretty much dominate for tech to engineering jobs in the mechanical, software, electronic and IT industries.
This is what i do and who i hire.
and like i said iver use temp firms to get almost all my jobs and certainly my best ones and long term ones
also i mostly only use temp agencies to hire because of how super beneficial it is to me and my company.
1.) they do the recon for me and screen well because they want to hold up thier rep.
2.) the temp to hire contract is all on them and its great reassurance that if a person doesnt work out we just let them go and again they do the work
3.) they also start learning what im looking for and develop providing the best possible for my needs, they get a feel for it and save us the leg work. if its entry level they even go to fairs and schools and recruit for us.
maybe this is different in other areas/industries but in pittsburgh for tech stuff they are great
on a side note I did stop using one NEWER agency because the quality of employee they sent was never up to par :shrug:
So do many make the grade to full time?
for this company the majority of them do and when they dont its because they cant hack it
for another company i worked for there were times when we didnt hire them and had no plans to hire but we always identified those jobs as a temp position and typically with a time limit.
also when other jobs opened up that were temp-to-hire i usually had the agency look for those guys to see if they were interested in coming back if i liked them
Thanks- Sound management then.
It's definitely a regional thing. The temp agencies aren't worth a can of spit here in Northern Nevada.you're welcome
like i said maybe its a regional thing or a industry thing but for me I love temp agencies bot to find me jobs and to find me employees.
It's definitely a regional thing. The temp agencies aren't worth a can of spit here in Northern Nevada.
Anectdote...
I had just move to N.N. and immediately put in work for multiple temp agencies...
Manpower, appleone, kelly, integrity staffing all of 'em.
None of them found me any work for like four months even though I called once a week. Then I got a job at Wal&mart after putting in an app directly. While working at Wal*Mart one of the agencies calls me up after two months telling me they finally found work for me. **** off. 2 1/2 YEARS later I quit because it's WAL&MART.
So I do the same thing again...working with multiple agencies calling in once a week to let them know I'm still looking etc...
One place found me work for a week after some other guy walked off the job. Then that place found me work for two days...
After three months there's nothing. However I come across a "now hiring sign" at a telecom place. I apply immediately but they tell I have to go through Manpower. WTF? I'm technically with Manpower now. They have my application and everything...
So I contact manpower and The lady interviews me. She's shocked to see on my application that I worked at the U.S. Attorney's Office as a paige. Again, this is a giant WTF for me because she's had my application for months, this telecom firm has been hiring for months directly through her office. So I'm really pissed. I got hired on after 6 months and swore I'd never work for a temp agency again.
An agency has never found me work when I needed it ever. Some of them don't even look at your application. Some of them don't even know which contracts they need to be filling!
We moved out to Western Canada in 96- I was in the Military- Wife went thru temp agencies.
Some sucked, others not so much.
Should we remove them? No, however I have mixed feeling about temp agencies and how employers exploit potential employees. At a job that I had about 18 years ago the company would sometimes hire temp-to-permanent employees threw a local temp agency. The temp agency payed them $2-3 less per hour than if they had been hired directly by the company.
If they performed well the company would offer to hire them on full time but at the same pay rate that the temp agency was paying them. I guess they figured that if they were willing to do the job at a reduced price than they would be happy enough to keep working at that wage. It just rubbed me wrong to see them act this way I suppose. :shrug:
A good portion of my twenties was spent in temporary employment.
My first temp job was for a manufacturer. This was an employee owned company and they used the temp agency as a sort of probationary period. Usually if you lasted 3 months they'd hire you on full time. Well, 5 months later they finally got around to hiring me on full time but, I was rather insulted by their foot dragging and after I made sure they spent the money on pre employment drug screening and physical I walked out at lunch one day never to return. Lesson? Don't take your temp employees for granted.
My second temp job was a pool and spa distributor. This was a small shop, 6 employees including the owner. The owner was a verbally abusive schmuck. He had an inventory system only he understood and his entire shop was a safety hazard. One time as I was pulling a pallet off a shelf he failed to tell me it was supporting the contents on the shelf above it and I almost had the entire 4 story rack fall on my head. This was my fault of course. After being chastised in a most uncivilized manner for another instance which was not my fault (it wasn't I swear) I got tire of the verbal abuse and told him I was going to throw him over the balcony off the second floor loft if he spoke to me like that again. I was let go by his foreman at the end of the day.
At another temp job where they worked you like a Hebrew slave, I had a full time employee speak to me in a manner unbecoming to which I proceeded to throw a box knife at that person's head. I received a phone call the next day telling me my services were no longer required.
And still, at another temp job where they worked you like a dog I spent 4 months straight working seven days a week sometimes a double shift on the weekends to get hired on full time as the pay rate offered at that time was quite considerable. Well, the Team Lead's daughter was in my cohort and she of course was a shoe in for hire and my dedication and hard work made me a candidate for full time employment. Then, before the hiring processes started for me, the daughter of the Team Lead was hired and it was made known that NOW, after she was hired on the starting pay for the rest of us going to be $4 less an hour. A bomb threat was made on the building one day, (wasn't me, I swear, I was working) and we all were sent home. I never returned. They called me for two weeks begging me to come back and I said, "Nah, that's OK".
So, idk, what yous tink?
I think you are a ****ty employee or you have very bad luck with employers. I would go with the former.
Should we remove them? No, however I have mixed feeling about temp agencies and how employers exploit potential employees. At a job that I had about 18 years ago the company would sometimes hire temp-to-permanent employees threw a local temp agency. The temp agency payed them $2-3 less per hour than if they had been hired directly by the company.
If they performed well the company would offer to hire them on full time but at the same pay rate that the temp agency was paying them. I guess they figured that if they were willing to do the job at a reduced price than they would be happy enough to keep working at that wage. It just rubbed me wrong to see them act this way I suppose. :shrug:
ah...gee.
the thread is about getting rid of temp agencies and you agree.
that's blowing up the system.
and there isn't even a problem, no one is forcing those people to work there.....if they don't like it, they can leave.
Honey, you don't have to say another word. Your previous ones illustrate the futility of trying to have a conversation with you. You have convinced me of the monumental waste of time of mine that would be, particularly since I'm supposed to lying anyway.:roll:
Disagree, mostlyExactly the same for me. I don't trust them. They are easy to exploit. And it seems like many companies AND the government using them. Cheating the system. Plus how can you claim you are giving more jobs when they are crappy temp jobs that are not long term?
I think we should aim to create real jobs and reduce employment agencies.
I guess it's pretty good for me than that I turned to self employment, eh?
Yours is almost as laughable as the other one's, almost...
:lamo
Self-employment was probably his last option. Burned too many bridges.Yes laughable. Now you can be the boss and deal with ****ty employees with bad attitudes.
Self-employment was probably his last option. Burned too many bridges.
Yes laughable. Now you can be the boss and deal with ****ty employees with bad attitudes.
Sounded like it.
Imagine being offered a permanent position and telling them they were 2 months late in offering it so piss off.
I can imagine what other attitude problems he brought to the workplace every day.
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