Is it your goal to dumb down this discussion?
As is so often the case, yer doing a great job at that yerself, and so I'd say you don't need any help in that regard.
>>If Obama had become President in 2005, the storyline of his presidency would be vastly different. In 2005 he'd have had no hope of preventing the housing bubble
If a Democrat had been elected in 2000 or even in 2004, there never would have been a god damn housing crisis. Who do you think yer fooling? You think it fell out of the sky?
Which party has been railing for decades against "excessive and burdensome gubmint regulation that ties the hands of entrepreneurs and retards economic growth"? I suppose yer gonna be trying to sell the nonsensical crap about the Community Reinvestment Act and Franklin Raines and Barney Fag. Well, people with even half a brain aren't buying.
The Republicans got the civil rights legislation of the 1960s enacted, right? See Barry Goldwater. The War on Poverty, which saw it reduced by fifty percent 1965-2000, was a complete and utter failure, right? It was the Republicans, who said we could "do business" with Hitler and his Nazi henchmen, who won the Second World War, correct? This slimy garbage makes me puke.
>>it would look as if the world was falling apart shortly after he took over the world's most powerful country.
Amazing. Truly amazing. What did the world look like in late Jan 2009, when Obuumer
did take over? The world was NOT falling apart in 2005 or 2006 or 2007. By the beginning of 2008, when the Negro was in the middle of his run for the WH, yes, the freakin' world was about to fall apart. What bizarre version of history have been living through?
>>If Bob Dole had become president in '97 it would appear to a lot of fools that he was the most successful president ever
I have no idea what yer talking about. Care to explain that one?
And here's the point. Mr Dole was NOT elected, and guess what, it wasn't some sort of coin toss. He got beat by eight-and-a-half points and 220 electoral votes. The country was halfway through Bubba's very successful presidency and that's why he WAS re-elected. That's how these things work, but you can't seem to understand that.
>>unless he was still President between '01 and '03 in which case it would have appeared that he destroyed the country.
In what sense? How was the country "destroyed" in those years? And would Dole have listened to Dickhead Chaingang and Donnie Dumbsfeld and invaded Iraq Mar 2003? Would most of his NSA team have ignored warnings of an imminent attack within the US by Al Qaeda and missed the opportunity to avoid the 9/11 disaster?
>>If you stop convincing yourself that the President determines everything that happens in the world by virtue of his occupation of the Oval Office, you'll look at economic trends and think about policies, not figureheads.
Yer simply taking an important consideration, the idea that events in our domestic economy and in foreign affairs do not begin and end in ways that are totally synchronised with presidential elections, and seeking to employ it to buttress a totally absurd argument that presidents don't really do much of anything to influence economic and foreign policy. BS sophistry, easily exposed as mindlessly foolish.
>>Tax policy, monetary policy, financial sector regulation, and so forth. To even attempt to frame the economic discussion of the US over the past 25-35 years in terms of who was President when inherently dumbs down the discussion of what is economically best for the country.
So where do these policies come from? Why bother having presidential elections or even having a president at all? The Reagan tax cuts that exploded the debt and accomplished nothing positive were, what, decided by a roll of the dice? And the reversal of that policy under Clinton was … something that got pulled out of a hat? We go back to SSE under Bush43. Why? Enh, cuz the wind was out of the south that day. Obummer's ARRA and ACA? Just a random change of the channel on a TV.
>>Look at your own data without thinking about who the President happened to be at any particular point in time. It tells a different story.
Well, I asked you to describe that story, and I'll credit you with having done so. But yer version would be found in the fiction section, and properly in
children's fiction.