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Should we end welfare?

Should we get rid of welfare?

  • Yes. Nothing wrong with soup kitchens

    Votes: 19 44.2%
  • No. Freebies are great

    Votes: 24 55.8%

  • Total voters
    43

I disagree that most people on welfare are unemployable, I just think collecting welfare is easier than working. And are crime rates really lower now compared to before welfare? Look at Detroit.
 
It's absolutely amazing how many liberals tend to not support welfare as much as many conservatives do.
 
I disagree that most people on welfare are unemployable, I just think collecting welfare is easier than working. And are crime rates really lower now compared to before welfare? Look at Detroit.

Yeah, Detroit's bad. Crime, on a national level, is down.
 
Crime has gone up on almost every level since 1960, esp. violent crime even though the Great Society was implemented.

Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From your link:

Crime in the United States has been recorded since colonization. Crime rates have varied over time, with a sharp rise after 1963, reaching a broad peak between the 1970s and early 1990s. Since then, crime has declined significantly in the United States,[1] and current crime rates are approximately the same as those of the 1960s.

Crime is up from Depression-era levels because of increased urbanization.
 

Crime shouldn't be up though, it should be down as a result of our massive welfare state. And you reference my link by proving my point, that crime skyrocketed regardless of the Great Society when it should've gone down. It eventually came down, but apparently not because of welfare.
 

Of course it all depends on what you categorize as "crime". Crime statistics, like most statistics, only say so much.
 
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