Should U.S. Muslims carry special ID? (1 Viewer)

[FallingPianos]

I recently came across a poll that said 39% of Americans believe that American Muslims should carry special ID. what are your thoughts on this?

 

[Kandahar]

I recently came across a poll that said 39% of Americans believe that American Muslims should carry special ID. what are your thoughts on this?

The Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

 

[Kandahar]

This poll pretty much confirms the fact that at least one-third of Americans are terminally stupid. Where to begin...The violation of civil liberties? The violation of the equal protection clause? Trampling on freedom of religion?

 

[jfuh]

Wow nearly 40% huh? Muslims, the new black.

 

[FallingPianos]

Wow nearly 40% huh? Muslims, the new black.

more like: Americans: the new nazis.

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Damn! That is just sick.


Edit: I knew there would be some yes votes, lets see those people defend this.

 

[FallingPianos]

90% against the idea so far... I can only hope DP is more representative of America than the gallup poll was.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Where is that "Its not Fascism when WE do it" poster, it would be so appropriate now.

 

[Gibberish]

The Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

Always a good thing when you can throw a "Office Space" quote in.

 

[RightOfCenter]

No, that is absolutely the worst idea I have ever heard.

 

[jfuh]

Who's the ****en moron that voted yes?

 

[Calm2Chaos]

I would like to read the poll and see how it's worded and what it says. I'm not going to be a moron and compare Americans to nazi's though. As far as ID goes. No American Citizen should have to carry any secondary ID other then that required already for driving and things of that nature, if you choose to do so.

I do find it funny that without even reading the poll you have some enlighted souls comparing an entire population to the most muderous regime in the last century.

 

[Vader]

No, that is absolutely the worst idea I have ever heard.

I agree. Making the US Muslim population carry a special ID is as bad as inturring all Japanese Americans during WWII is/was.

 

[cherokee]

I agree. Making the US Muslim population carry a special ID is as bad as inturring all Japanese Americans during WWII is/was.

This is very true...

Plus what’s to stop anyone from carrying the ID card?

I also agree with Calm2Chaos I would like to see how the poll was worded and how they made contact with the people.


PS...
How about a tattoo on the forehead instead of a card?......:lamo

 

[faithful_servant]

I recently came across a poll that said 39% of Americans believe that American Muslims should carry special ID. what are your thoughts on this?

Do you have the source for this poll? Quite often, these things get skewed pretty badly by the press (like the "moral issues" polls after the last election), so I'd like to check it out for myself.

 

[faithful_servant]

This is very true...

Plus what’s to stop anyone from carrying the ID card?

I also agree with Calm2Chaos I would like to see how the poll was worded and how they made contact with the people.


PS...
How about a tattoo on the forehead instead of a card?......:lamo

Make them all dye their beards bright pink? (yes, even the women - sorry, but you know you were thinking the same thing :mrgreen: )

 

[cherokee]

Make them all dye their beards bright pink? (yes, even the women - sorry, but you know you were thinking the same thing :mrgreen: )

:lamo

Is that why they wear the beekeeper suits?....:lamo

Damn that’s nasty....not mention it would put the bearded ladies at the circus’s out of business

 

[FallingPianos]

I found a link. you have to watch a 30 second ad to view it, but after that it works fine

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=24073

 

[FallingPianos]

I would like to read the poll and see how it's worded and what it says.

I just found the link. http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=24073 you'll have to watch a 30 second ad before viewing the page.

the exact question was:

16. Please tell me if you would favor or oppose each of the following as a means of preventing terrorist attacks in the United States. How about -- [ITEMS ROTATED]?

A. Requiring Muslims, including those who are U.S. citizens, to carry a special ID

Favor Oppose No opinion
39% 59% 2%

 

[dragonslayer]

I recently came across a poll that said 39% of Americans believe that American Muslims should carry special ID. what are your thoughts on this?

How would this prevent terrorist attacks in the United States?

Next we would need special ID for Catholics, Christian Scientists, Mormons, Jews, and Methodists.

It would be whoever the fundamentalist minority wanted to pick on during any given week.

How would this prevent terrorist attacks in the United States?

We need to get rid of the Right Wing Radicals that are creating terrorists, and causing everyone in the middle east, besides the Saudi Royal house, to hate America. The Saudi Royal house is to busy getting rich at our gas pumps to hate us.

 

[Inuyasha]

Here is a little something my brother's high school aged kids thought up and took around. I don't know the percentage but one of the kids said it got a pretty good reception. They made me figure it out before they commented on the source. I'll do the same. After this I agree that about a third of our population is in serious trouble and that's enough to make serious trouble for the rest of the nation. Here are the snippets. The entire manifesto is too long. See if you can figure out the source.

The APP was founded as the first American Popular Party in America and is dedicated to fighting the "Forces of Darkness" which seeks to destroy our Western Judeo-Christian Civilization. The APP is not a hate organization and it does not condone acts of violence or hatred towards those of differing or opposing viewpoints and lifestyles nor does it condone racism or anti-Semitism in any form. The APP believes in Jesus Christ, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and nationalistic loyalty to the United States of America.

The Basics of True Americanism or the APP

Like all sound political conceptions, The APP is action and it is thought; action in which doctrine is immanent, and doctrine arising from a given system of historical forces in which it is inserted, and working on them from within . It has therefore a form correlated to contingencies of time and space; but it has also an ideal content which makes it an expression of truth in the higher region of the history of thought . There is no way of exercising a spiritual influence in the world as a human will dominating the will of others, unless one has a conception both of the transient and the specific reality on which that action is to be exercised, and of the permanent and universal reality in which the transient dwells and has its being. To know men one must know man; and to know man one must be acquainted with reality and its laws. There can be no conception of the State which is not fundamentally a conception of life: philosophy or intuition, system of ideas evolving within the framework of logic or concentrated in a vision or a faith, but always, at least potentially, an organic conception of the world.
Thus many of the practical expressions of True Americanism (as we call it) such as party organization, system of education, and discipline can only be understood when considered in relation to its general attitude toward life. A spiritual attitude . True Americanism sees in the world not only those superficial, material aspects in which man appears as an individual, standing by himself, self-centered, subject to natural law, which instinctively urges him toward a life of selfish momentary pleasure; it sees not only the individual but the nation and the country; individuals and generations bound together by a moral law, with common traditions and a mission which suppressing the instinct for life closed in a brief circle of pleasure, builds up a higher life, founded on duty, a life free from the limitations of time and space, in which the individual, by self-sacrifice, the renunciation of self-interest, by death itself, can achieve that purely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
The conception is therefore a spiritual one, arising from the general reaction of the century against the materialistic positivism of the XIXth century. Anti-positivistic but positive; neither skeptical nor agnostic; neither pessimistic nor supinely optimistic as are, generally speaking, the doctrines (all negative) which place the center of life outside man; whereas, by the exercise of his free will, man can and must create his own world.
True Americanism wants man to be active and to engage in action with all his energies; it wants him to be manfully aware of the difficulties besetting him and ready to face them. It conceives of life as a struggle in which it behooves a man to win for himself a really worthy place, first of all by fitting himself (physically, morally, intellectually) to become the implement required for winning it. As for the individual, so for the nation, and so for mankind . Hence the high value of culture in all its forms (artistic, religious, scientific) and the outstanding importance of education. Hence also the essential value of work, by which man subjugates nature and creates the human world (economic, political, ethical, and intellectual).
This positive conception of life is obviously an ethical one. It invests the whole field of reality as well as the human activities which master it. No action is exempt from moral judgment; no activity can be despoiled of the value which a moral purpose confers on all things. Therefore life, as conceived of by the True Americanist, is serious, austere, and religious; all its manifestations are poised in a world sustained by moral forces and subject to spiritual responsibilitie s. The True Americanist disdains an “easy" life like the present cradle to grave nanny state that is forming under the present political leaders .

 

[liberateamerica]

Hmmm...let's see: unconstitutional, demeaning, illegal, discriminatory, racist, I could go on and on....it proves that there are a lot of dumb people out there. Granted, many terrorists - as a matter of fact, an overwhelming majority of terrorists - are Muslim; however, in this country, everyone should have the right to walk unhindered. In addition, unless terrorists frequently strike America everyday and it becomes a national emergency and a matter of national security, then no, Muslims should not have to carry IDs. Yes, 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, but should 2 M people be marked for discrimination and cruelty merely because of that terrible incident? I think the answer's no. If we give in to what the terrorists actually want us to do, if we surrender to our inner paranoia and xenophobia, then the terrorists will have won.

 

[Jerry]

The Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

That's an awesome movie!!