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Should there be Muslim-only washrooms?

Should there be Muslim-only washrooms?

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Goobieman

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Row over washrooms | Herald Sun

Row over washrooms
A ROW has erupted over Muslim-only washrooms at La Trobe University that can be accessed only with a secret push-button code.

Muslim students have exclusive access to male and female washrooms on campus, sparking claims of bias and discrimination.

The university and Islamic leaders have defended the washrooms as vital to Muslim students' prayer rituals.

A university student, who did not want to be identified, raised the issue with the Sunday Herald Sun this week.

Australian Family Council spokesman Bill Muehlenberg said concerns over the exclusive facilities were valid.

"Do we have a Christian washroom or an atheist washroom?" he said. "The whole thing is madness."
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Well?
 
It brings back images of black-white segregation in the United States. If Muslims comprise a significant proportion of the students at this Australian university, they can accommodate Muslims without giving them separate restrooms. If they need to wash their feet, why don't they just install something to wash their feet in all the restrooms?

And if Muslims are NOT a significant proportion of the students, then there's really no need to accommodate them at all.
 
Goobieman said:
Row over washrooms | Herald Sun



Well?
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These Universities are in Australia. Whatever Australians want to do is fine with me. But, no, I wouldn't support them in the U.S.

What I don't understand is why the washrooms need to be Muslim only. Why can't everyone use the restrooms that have the special foot-washing areas?
 
Dezaad said:
These Universities are in Australia. Whatever Australians want to do is fine with me. But, no, I wouldn't support them in the U.S.
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So... Apartheid is OK so long as it isnt here?
 
Every nation can have customs or laws that their population meet, but to me, this is more illuminating than a battle over a law or discrimination. This is a clear indication that Islam is devoted to customs that are contrary to all Western Progressive ideas of equality and forward thinking.
 
I wouldn't give 'em their own washrooms. I'd tell 'em to go buy some handi-wipes. :rofl
 
Muslim hygienic rituals can be accomodated in standard restrooms by providing access to foot-washing equipment. I am certain that there are other students who could benefit from this equipment as well.
 
Goobieman said:
So... Apartheid is OK so long as it isnt here?
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Ok, I changed my mind. Its not ok. I do agree that these kinds of things are the things upon which Apartheid can be built. There is no reason to devote taxpayer resources to accommodate a select group of people.
 
SO when are we attacking Australia pre-emptively since they are suppressing a people's freedoms of separate but equal?
 
Typical liberal nonsense that comes out of schools and especially Universities. Its a waste of money. A group of people is 3 or more. Now we'll have 3 people believe a relgion and we'll have to spend money to cater to them.
 
nes said:
Typical liberal nonsense that comes out of schools and especially Universities. Its a waste of money. A group of people is 3 or more. Now we'll have 3 people believe a relgion and we'll have to spend money to cater to them.
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I'm sure you'll agree there is some kind of difference between 1.4 Billion muslims and 3 people. Catering to 1.4 Billion carries nowhere near the weight catering to 3 people does.
 
Hatuey said:
I'm sure you'll agree there is some kind of difference between 1.4 Billion muslims and 3 people.
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But then we would have to cater to other minorities.

;) You have the right to be offended.

I think you should also have the right to not cater to peoples needs when they are offended. Some people don't even have enough balls to say no.
 
Not just No but HELL NO!

Give them a garden hose and a bucket ….Outside.
A blue bucket for the men and a pink bucket of the women.

You wish to have a Muslim-only washroom?
Take your a$$ back Home!
 
Just walk home during lunch, that's what open campus is for.

I have to admit, though, washing your feet in a public bathroom would be...awkward.
 
nes said:
But then we would have to cater to other minorities.

;) You have the right to be offended.

I think you should also have the right to not cater to peoples needs when they are offended. Some people don't even have enough balls to say no.
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I simply found your comparison of 1.5 Billion people to 3 a little bit extreme. 1.5 Billion people is not a minority when they make up 1/6th of the worlds population.
 
Thelost1 said:
Just walk home during lunch, that's what open campus is for.

I have to admit, though, washing your feet in a public bathroom would be...awkward.
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I work at a place with a sizeable number of muslim guys. They have their own praying room. As far as the washing goes there haven't been any incidents or wierd demands. They know you can't impose all 500-600 pages of the Qu'ran on other people. Specially when you're not one of the bosses.
 
Hatuey said:
I simply found your comparison of 1.5 Billion people to 3 a little bit extreme. 1.5 Billion people is not a minority when they make up 1/6th of the worlds population.
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Its still discrimination when you cater to one's religion while not catering to another one. How about catering to hinduism too. The list goes on. If this was a private university then they are a bunch of liberals.

If this was a public university then people should start losing jobs over this!

The irony of political correctness is that it causes a different form of discrimination.

Where do you draw the line? There are few handicapped people in America, yet we have to cater to them (via americans with disabilities act).

So a small percentage of less than 1% need to be catered (if companies don't want to get sued :roll:. Why not 1% of other religious populations?
 
I agree with Dezaad who said since it involves another country its their problem. If they allow it, its their mistake. I don't know how their Constitution reads, or if it has laws against mixing religion and government like ours does. The university in question obviously gets some public money or this wouldn't be an issue.

They also have facilities for Christians on property. Course, probably anybody is allowed to enter them, but the Muslim bathrooms are exclusive.

If this happened here, it would have to go. So would the Christian facility. People can build their churches and religious fixtures on their own property, and leave government funded institutions separate. Religious people need to pay for their structures and the sites they sit on themselves.
 
Capitulating to the demands of those with supremecist ideologies is beyong foolish.
 
Hatuey said:
I simply found your comparison of 1.5 Billion people to 3 a little bit extreme. 1.5 Billion people is not a minority when they make up 1/6th of the worlds population.
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Except Muslims don't make up a sixth of the population in Australia so your argument is...erroneous.
 
Kelzie said:
Except Muslims don't make up a sixth of the population in Australia so your argument is...erroneous.
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Maybe they make up a sixth of the district.
 
Kelzie said:
Except Muslims don't make up a sixth of the population in Australia so your argument is...erroneous.
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It wasn't an argument though. I was simply commenting on the comparison between "3 people" and muslims. They're only a minority when you're looking at them from a down to earth point of view. Numbers wise they're pretty damn far from that.
 
I believe if it truly is part of their religion that it's OK, but I don't think it's a good idea because it separates us. However if a campus wants to build Muslim restrooms as long as it goes along with their religion then I say let them.
 
Moslem if I remember my world religion classes, prayer to Allah, while facing Mecca three times a day.

In my opinion it would be better than being forced to pray in a public place and suffer abuse from Christians or anti-moslems that happen to walk in.

We are speaking of a college here, not 1-12 grade public schools, which should be religion free.

At the Colleges I attended, there were synagogues, and several christian meeting places. Catholic, Mormon, and several Protestant, meeting places.
I attended both private and public universities, and found the same things.

Why would they balk at providing a moslem place, if other religions are accomidated?

I am a christian, but I cannot see any reason in the arguments against providing prayer place as other than pure prejudice. It has nothing to do with terrorism or Bush's war on Irag.:2wave:
 
What's next, we don't allow washrooms separated by women and men anymore because it is somehow discriminating?
 
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