• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Should the total Mueller report be made public?

independentusa

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 10, 2016
Messages
9,402
Reaction score
4,222
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
It is a simple question, in your opinion, should the total Mueller report be made public? Please give your reasoning.
 

Amelia

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
9,804
Reaction score
7,610
Location
Wisconsin
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Progressive
Probably not. There will probably be things in it which we don't want Russia to have official confirmation that we know ... or specific details about how we found it out.
 

DiAnna

Hooter Babe
Moderator
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Sep 19, 2008
Messages
48,097
Reaction score
25,995
Location
Northern California
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
Abso-****ing-lutely. There will literally be riots in the streets if it is hidden or covered up by the WH, the GOP, or Trump's bought-and-paid-for Fluffer, Acting Attorney General Whitaker.
 

Hawkeye10

Buttermilk Man
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 29, 2015
Messages
45,404
Reaction score
11,744
Location
Olympia Wa
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
It is a simple question, in your opinion, should the total Mueller report be made public? Please give your reasoning.

Yes, because the people need to know the Truth....... we have a right and need to know about the Truth of Trump and we have the right and need to know what Mueller has been up to, because when this is all over we need to decide if Mueller and the DOJ abused the nation or not.
 

MovingPictures

WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 27, 2017
Messages
12,618
Reaction score
10,010
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Probably not. There will probably be things in it which we don't want Russia to have official confirmation that we know ... or specific details about how we found it out.
Mueller won't include any classified information in his public report, but I'm sure Congress will be provided with that material.
 

TheRepublican

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 21, 2017
Messages
1,613
Reaction score
177
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
Define what you mean because I think they should it without any blacking-out. Because the cat is out of the bag. Let me explain, everyone in Fox News, msnbc, cnn,and etc. are talking about it. Well there’s sensitive stuff in those documents. So what I’m sorry but, if we already know what happened. Can we see what those documents have
 

Chomsky

Social Democrat
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 28, 2015
Messages
57,251
Reaction score
44,138
Location
Third Coast
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
It is a simple question, in your opinion, should the total Mueller report be made public? Please give your reasoning.
Are you speaking classified, or unclassified?

There's going to be a lot of classified that should not be let out.

But the rest, in my opinion, should be let out.
 

Chomsky

Social Democrat
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 28, 2015
Messages
57,251
Reaction score
44,138
Location
Third Coast
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Probably not. There will probably be things in it which we don't want Russia to have official confirmation that we know ... or specific details about how we found it out.
Bingo!
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
74,749
Reaction score
29,887
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
It is a simple question, in your opinion, should the total Mueller report be made public? Please give your reasoning.

It shouldn't and, I hate to tell you this, it won't.

There will be classified, confidential and sensitive information in the report. There is also likely to be stuff in the report that will impact subsequent investigations or prosecutions.

Some people might say it sucks, but the fact is the public doesn't have a "need to know".
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
74,749
Reaction score
29,887
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Mueller won't include any classified information in his public report, but I'm sure Congress will be provided with that material.

Wrong.

Mueller will be delivering his report to the AG. All classified information will be there. Mueller WON'T be providing a public report. It will be up to the AG if there is a public report and what is in it. Same for Congress. The AG will make the decisions.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
74,749
Reaction score
29,887
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Abso-****ing-lutely. There will literally be riots in the streets if it is hidden or covered up by the WH, the GOP, or Trump's bought-and-paid-for Fluffer, Acting Attorney General Whitaker.

I highly suspect Whitaker won't be acting AG by the time Mueller is done and has delivered his report to the permanent AG. Whoever that AG is will be making the decision if it's released and what's in it.

The public will, at best, get to see a non-classified summary.
 

Xelor

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 20, 2018
Messages
10,257
Reaction score
4,161
Location
Washington, D.C.
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Should the total Mueller report be made public?

All of it, except perhaps passages that unavoidably reveal (expressly or tacitly) national intelligence means, methods and resources, should be made public. For national intelligence compromising passages, there should, in place of the national security compromising details, be annotations that summarize what has been found or deduced.
 

DiAnna

Hooter Babe
Moderator
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Sep 19, 2008
Messages
48,097
Reaction score
25,995
Location
Northern California
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
All of it, except perhaps passages that unavoidably reveal (expressly or tacitly) national intelligence means, methods and resources, should be made public. For national intelligence compromising passages, there should, in place of the national security compromising details, be annotations that summarize what has been found or deduced.

Congress should see ALL of it, or there will seriously be hell to pay.
 

trouble13

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
37,877
Reaction score
8,735
Congress should see ALL of it, or there will seriously be hell to pay.
What kind of serious hell?

Maybe hold the AG in contempt. We've seen how that plays out when Holder was AG

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 

Xelor

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 20, 2018
Messages
10,257
Reaction score
4,161
Location
Washington, D.C.
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
I see some folks express binary-thinking by saying or implying that the full report should be released to the public without regard to what national security/intelligence compromising information it may contain. I don't agree. If there is info in the document that'll abet our adversaries' efforts to infiltrate or subvert or otherwise diminish our intelligence/security capabilities, then, as with all things prudently undertaken, a balance must be struck.

It's utterly ridiculous, reprehensible and irresponsible to cut off the "nose" of one's curiosity to spite the "face" of the nation's overall security and our government's ability to maintain it. Hell, one of the central matters that report will likely address is the nature and extent to which Russians (perhaps other nations) availed themselves of Trump's (and/or his associates') disaffectedness, hubris and avarice to compromise and infiltrate various US institutions and core processes, not the least of which is the electoral process.
 

uptower

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 8, 2018
Messages
11,235
Reaction score
7,259
Location
Behind you - run!
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Yes, because the people need to know the Truth....... we have a right and need to know about the Truth of Trump and we have the right and need to know what Mueller has been up to, because when this is all over we need to decide if Mueller and the DOJ abused the nation or not.

And before that, if the president committed felonies or not. Outside of Fox and the right-wing, red pill, incel blogosphere there is no delusion that any alleged abuses by Mueller are the bigger issue. This is first and foremost to find out if Individual-1 is a crook.
 

Hawkeye10

Buttermilk Man
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 29, 2015
Messages
45,404
Reaction score
11,744
Location
Olympia Wa
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
And before that, if the president committed felonies or not. Outside of Fox and the right-wing, red pill, incel blogosphere there is no delusion that any alleged abuses by Mueller are the bigger issue. This is first and foremost to find out if Individual-1 is a crook.

You are wrong, and your insults are both unsavory and uncivil so you get to be wrong again.

That is not going to get you anywhere with me.
 

DiAnna

Hooter Babe
Moderator
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Sep 19, 2008
Messages
48,097
Reaction score
25,995
Location
Northern California
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
You are wrong, and your insults are both unsavory and uncivil so you get to be wrong again.

That is not going to get you anywhere with me.

He's shattered, I'm sure. :lol:
 

iguanaman

DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 16, 2011
Messages
53,419
Reaction score
19,431
Location
Florida
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
What kind of serious hell?

Maybe hold the AG in contempt. We've seen how that plays out when Holder was AG

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

The House can just subpoena Mueller for the report. No need to bother the AG. The House has subpoena power over the executive an Mueller will be happy to comply. Starr also gave his report on Bill Clinton to the House Judiciary Committee.
 

uptower

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 8, 2018
Messages
11,235
Reaction score
7,259
Location
Behind you - run!
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
You are wrong, and your insults are both unsavory and uncivil so you get to be wrong again.

That is not going to get you anywhere with me.

It is not about you and me, and we don't have to 'get anywhere' with one another. Eeew.

My comments on the blogosphere are true enough. It is infested with those types. And outside of that realm, and of course Fox's echo chamber (and even that may not be on board with trump forever) nobody is talking about the alleged excesses of Mueller which have already been demonstrated false. Everyone is waiting on the findings of the Mueller report and what it has to say about Trump.

Hey the pro-Trump camp may yet be vindicated if it shows no wrongdoing. I doubt it but that's what criminal investigations are for: to root out the truth. Let's just wait for that.
 

Bullseye

Fund police; Defund the politicians
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 18, 2018
Messages
33,546
Reaction score
11,163
Location
San Diego
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Mueller won't include any classified information in his public report, but I'm sure Congress will be provided with that material.
If that's the case, good, we need that. Everything that can be publicly released should be.
 
Top Bottom