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Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye
"This is just proof that if you design a program to help this type of people, more and more middle-upper class people will forego paying for their own insurance and just rely on the government dole that should be reserved for the poorest." - RightinNYC
I am going to politely disagree with you and state that even the poorest do not need to be relying on the government.
Please consider what our poor do have...
"46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.
The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.
97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.
62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.
As a group, America’s poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100-percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, super-nourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and ten pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II."
Robert Rector on Poverty on National Review Online
And if you did only want to limit certain welfare benefits to the "poorest of the poor", politicians would slowly lower the bar on who could be covered until everyone was covered in their attempts to stay in power.
And long before everyone was covered by the new welfare scheme, the funds for this program would grow scarce and limitations would have to be placed upon it.
Now even the "poorest of the poor" won't get the orinigal benefits that was intended just for them.
This is why "government help" should be considered an oxymoron.
"This is just proof that if you design a program to help this type of people, more and more middle-upper class people will forego paying for their own insurance and just rely on the government dole that should be reserved for the poorest." - RightinNYC
I am going to politely disagree with you and state that even the poorest do not need to be relying on the government.
Please consider what our poor do have...
"46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.
The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.
97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.
62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.
As a group, America’s poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100-percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, super-nourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and ten pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II."
Robert Rector on Poverty on National Review Online
And if you did only want to limit certain welfare benefits to the "poorest of the poor", politicians would slowly lower the bar on who could be covered until everyone was covered in their attempts to stay in power.
And long before everyone was covered by the new welfare scheme, the funds for this program would grow scarce and limitations would have to be placed upon it.
Now even the "poorest of the poor" won't get the orinigal benefits that was intended just for them.
This is why "government help" should be considered an oxymoron.