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Should the kkk be able to practice?

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I can't think of a reason to not allow them here. We have no problem with allowing terrorist into our country to spew there hate of the US. So whats the problem with a few home grown haters of our own. Lets send a few to the ME and see how they like it....:2razz:
 

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y not peace? said:
Then why do you follow a "christian" leader/symbol.

Shut up! :roll:
 

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MrFungus420 said:
So, are you saying that your beliefs are not based on Naziism?

Huh?

No, I'm not saying that. Your an actual idiot.

Only by Nazis and Neo-Nazis. Apparently, the Nazis and Neo-Nazis can't use the term correctly.

We use the term differently to its original meaning, but if you spoke to any average person they would tell you that the word aryan is associated with National Socialism. It has two meanings. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.

It's laughable. The Nazis came up with the entire concept of a Master Race and then applied it to the wrong race.

I've been quite specific here but your thick headedness is some how stopping the words from entering that deformed matter of yours.

The word aryan describes "nobel man." It was used by some negroid race back in the day. Now it has been co-opted by the teutonic race to mean a nordic, celtic etc etc...How many times do I have to say this?
 

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"Should the kkk be able to practice?"


Why not? Islam is allowed to practice their barbarism. Clerics everywhere (except England) have a free pass. They preach hate and instruct "martyrs" all about Allah's will. If what they do is a form of "freedom of speech and religion", why can't the KKK have a little fun too? Or does our left only care about the "rights" of people they are scared of?
 

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Auftrag said:
Huh?

No, I'm not saying that. Your an actual idiot.



We use the term differently to its original meaning, but if you spoke to any average person they would tell you that the word aryan is associated with National Socialism. It has two meanings. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.



I've been quite specific here but your thick headedness is some how stopping the words from entering that deformed matter of yours.

The word aryan describes "nobel man." It was used by some negroid race back in the day. Now it has been co-opted by the teutonic race to mean a nordic, celtic etc etc...How many times do I have to say this?

Resorting to insults. What an marvelous debating technique.

The point that you're missing is that the Nazis took the research about origins of most of the European languages.

They took that research to come up with the idea that there was a "Master Race". That "Master Race" was the race from which the base language came.

Are you following me so far. The original logic used by the Nazis was that the "Master Race" was the race that had the language that was the basis for most of the European languages.

So, according to the logic of the Nazis, based on the research of languages, the "Master Race" is from the Indo-Persian area.

So, if you want to follow the original logic of the Nazi, then the Northern European races are not the "Master Race". The Nazis made a mistake in who they applied the term to.

Notice, I'm not talking about the word used. I'm talking about the original logic that the Nazis used to come up with their idea for a "Master Race".
 
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i dont know about you but "shut up" isnt really a sufucient answer.
 

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Oh, come on. You mean that when someone makes a point that you can't counter the "shut up" isn't a valid response?

Nest thing you know, you'll be expecting logic...
 

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MrFungus420 said:
Resorting to insults. What an marvelous debating technique.

I wasn't insulting you, I was stating a fact. You are an idiot.

The point that you're missing is that the Nazis took the research about origins of most of the European languages.

I've read most of Alfred Rosenberg's texts, I've read Mein Kampf and I've read Julius Streicher's work, and I've never read that.

Where did you get your facts from? I got mine from Nazi theorists
 

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y not peace? said:
i dont know about you but "shut up" isnt really a sufucient answer.

For you, it is.
 

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GySgt said:
"Should the kkk be able to practice?"


Why not? Islam is allowed to practice their barbarism. Clerics everywhere (except England) have a free pass. They preach hate and instruct "martyrs" all about Allah's will. If what they do is a form of "freedom of speech and religion", why can't the KKK have a little fun too? Or does our left only care about the "rights" of people they are scared of?

your last sentence puzzles me and makes me think you havn't read the thread at all. if you read the thread you will see that the one of the few people who think that they should not be able to practice at all is jamesrage, i personally wouldn't have the balls to call him a lefty to his face ;)
 
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auft...im simply saying that you still havent answered my quest...but whatever, you contradict what you beilive...thats all that matters.
 

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y not peace? said:
auft...im simply saying that you still havent answered my quest...but whatever, you contradict what you beilive...thats all that matters.

You don't know what you're talking about..so shut up! It's embarrassing.
 

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Auftrag said:
I wasn't insulting you, I was stating a fact. You are an idiot.

That marvelous debating tactic, again. Thank you for making that point for me.

Auftrag said:
I've read most of Alfred Rosenberg's texts, I've read Mein Kampf and I've read Julius Streicher's work, and I've never read that.

Where did you get your facts from? I got mine from Nazi theorists

I will admit that I didn't get my information from Nazi theorists. I got mine based on the scientific research of the day. The research that was about the true Aryans, the people who had the language that most of the European languages are based on. I made the assumption, apparently mistaken, that the Nazis were working off of that research. I didn't realize that they had totally fabricated what they were saying and then grabbed a name from other research to give it a veneer of verisimilitude.
 
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You don't know what you're talking about..so shut up! It's embarrassing.
Shut up? Thats a litle childish dont you think?

I have been following this thread, and I just see how really immature its gotten. It got to the point where the parties make valid points (according to their own belief system) and when the other doesnt like it, and can't think of something to refute it (or whatever else reason), it results in name calling, which is inappropiate for a debate.(save it for the basement)
It shouldn't be about attacking your opponants character, it should be about facts and recognizing their opinions as what they believe, and nothing you can do can change that...you can correct misconceptions with fact and evidence to back it up, I see nothing wrong with that.
Basically, grow up.

Back to topic...
I don't think the KKK should practice, as in act on what they believe. If they think that anyone other then their race is inferior, then fine...and just stay away from them or whatever.
Even though i don't believe that anyone is better then anyone jsut cause of color or whatever origin your from which might have influenced others (im not attacking you Auftrag, im just making a point)
Me, being African-American, has had family expirenced the personal horror of their actions, where my family has died because of their hatred.
Despite what people think abotu your particular race, it SHOULD NEVER resolve to murder or mass genocide...if you don't like that particular race around...go form your own community in some far away land.
 

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teenonfire4him77 said:
Shut up? Thats a litle childish dont you think?

I have been following this thread, and I just see how really immature its gotten. It got to the point where the parties make valid points (according to their own belief system) and when the other doesnt like it, and can't think of something to refute it (or whatever else reason), it results in name calling, which is inappropiate for a debate.(save it for the basement)
It shouldn't be about attacking your opponants character, it should be about facts and recognizing their opinions as what they believe, and nothing you can do can change that...you can correct misconceptions with fact and evidence to back it up, I see nothing wrong with that.
Basically, grow up.

I can'tbe bothered to correct the misconceptions of an idiot. There's someone who has an opinion which is wrong, and then there's someone who has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

No thank you. I'm not here to teach.
 

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MrFungus420 said:
That marvelous debating tactic, again. Thank you for making that point for me.

What? That you're an idiot? My pleasure.

I will admit that I didn't get my information from Nazi theorists.

Surprisingly.
 

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Auftrag said:
What? That you're an idiot? My pleasure.



Surprisingly.

Again, resorting to insults. You just can't help it, can you.

I notice that you don't address any of the points made, however. So, should I take that to mean that you concede the point that the Nazis didn't base their "theories" on the scientific research of the time and just made them up, then pulled a name they had heard from real research to make it sound valid?
 

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MrFungus420 said:
Again, resorting to insults. You just can't help it, can you.

I notice that you don't address any of the points made, however. So, should I take that to mean that you concede the point that the Nazis didn't base their "theories" on the scientific research of the time and just made them up, then pulled a name they had heard from real research to make it sound valid?

Kudos to TeenonFire. Though we all can acquire knowledge and develop informed opinions about just about anything, nobody can speak on a subject with the quite the same authority as those who have lived it.

Yes the KKK should be able to practice whatever skewed or twisted rituals or hold whatever beliefs they wish so long as they do not break the law of which we are all governed. If they break the law, throw their butts in jail. Until then, we pretty much have to allow them to be as stupid, ignorant, and evil as anybody else.

The law does not require us to fraternize with them, appreciate or respect their point of view, however. And I firmly recommend that nobody do that.
 

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ghost said:
Shouldnt the klue kluxx Klan be able to able to able to practice there beliefs in America? I mean we do have the freedom of speach and of the practice of our religion? So why should they be cooped up and only let to think of there beliefs?
I was watching on the Tv afew days ago, in Ohio, a women was raped by a spanish person in a Klan naighboorhood. The goverment stepped in and told the Klan they couldnt do anything about it. And I dont quite know what to think about it. I want to know what others think.

The KKK is not a belief or religion but a gang of racists who believe that Jews and African Americans are trash. The KKK might still be around but they are now powerless over african americans and jews. african Americans are becoming a majority in this country so we have no fear of them anymore. They are no longer a fearless gang but a historical group of misled americans.
 

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Auftrag said:
Teutonic, nordic, celtic and anglo-saxon people are modernly described as aryan. Deal with it!


That might be the case within a close circle of neonazis like yourself.

It's certainly not universally used like this.
 

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Auftrag said:
What? That you're an idiot? My pleasure.



Surprisingly.

People resprt to personal attacks when they run out of arguments.

That's a pretty pathetic thing to do.
 

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A) I don't concede your point.

B) I haven't run out of arguments, I'm just not going to repeat the same one.

C) It wasn't an insult, it was an observation.
 

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Auftrag said:
A) I don't concede your point.

B) I haven't run out of arguments, I'm just not going to repeat the same one.

C) It wasn't an insult, it was an observation.

Idiot is an observation? In the context that I read the word it certainly seemed like an insult.
 
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