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Should the California state bar strike Matthew Gregory McLaughlin from the bar?

Should Matthew McLaughlin be disbarred?

  • Yes, this clearly violates the "good moral character" clause.

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • Yes, because this clearly violates everything that America stands for!

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • No, however reprehensible his views, it does not violate the "good moral character" clause

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • No, because he is right. The gay agenda has to be exterminated just as he proposed.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't care. It's California, nuff said

    Votes: 6 40.0%

  • Other, namely ..................

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    15
tres borrachos said:
This isn't about criminal activity. What he did was offensive - it isn't criminal.

There are a lot of things that are considered offensive to someone. So if I understand you right, you support the disbarring of any lawyer who offends someone.
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But the murder of gays is not only immoral but is also a crime. I doubt that is a legally accepted on a federal level to shoot and kill gays and lesbians.

No, I am saying that people who call for legalizing murder on grounds of race, sexual preference, religion or political opinion are wholeheartedly immoral and and ready to be stricken off the bar if they do this.

Sorry, but this is just something so immoral that I would hope his fellow lawyers kick him from the bar.
 

He didn't commit a crime. He suggested a crime. In fact, wouldn't a lawyer proposing a bill that made pedophilia legal be suggesting a crime as well?

You can commit a crime and still be admitted to the California Bar, as I already showed you right from their website. Now how to they reconcile admitting lawyers who have committed crimes and disbarring those who have suggested crimes?
 
Peter King said:
No, I am saying that people who call for legalizing murder on grounds of race, sexual preference, religion or political opinion are wholeheartedly immoral and and ready to be stricken off the bar if they do this.
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But age? Age is okay, right?

Oh the stench of your hypocrisy.

Sure, I would love it if everyone who approved of legal killing on the grounds of age were immediately disbarred. That would be great.
 

Yes, and if a lawyer would propose a bill legalizing pedophilia he would also IMHO be a candidate for striking off from the bar because that is pretty darned evil and immoral too.

Yes, you showed that but that does not mean that the members of the bar can decide that some things are clearly that immoral in nature that they can say that this person is not of good "moral character" and strike him off.
 

Then call the state Bar of California, tell them your opinion, and maybe you can get what you want.
 
JayDubya said:
But age? Age is okay, right?

Oh the stench of your hypocrisy.

Sure, I would love it if everyone who approved of legal killing on the grounds of age were immediately disbarred. That would be great.
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You can have that discussion in the abortion section and not bring your pro-life complaining fest here

Abortion is legal, also abortion is not murder (and that discussion we can have as said in the abortion section of the forum) and lawyers who think it should be legal cannot be accused of being immoral because that is not immoral.
 
tres borrachos said:
Then call the state Bar of California, tell them your opinion, and maybe you can get what you want.
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I think the lesbian/gay community in California will do that. I may be of the opinion that he should be struck off but it is down to the good people of California to arrange/promote.
 

Well, if this man is to be taken seriously, he obviously disagrees with you and thinks shooting these folks in the head should not be murder and thinks there's nothing immoral about it.

So really, you have a lot in common with this guy... only in his case, at least, I'm not convinced he isn't just making a dumb joke.
 

But what he proposes is murder.

And I have nothing in common with this guy.
 
Peter King said:
But what he proposes is murder.
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Actually, he's saying it shouldn't be.

If this initiative actually somehow passed (yeah right), then it wouldn't be in California.

Murder is a specific criminal charge. Homicide is the general term for the action. If he's being serious (again, dubious) then he's saying he thinks shooting gays in the head is somehow justifiable homicide.

And I have nothing in common with this guy.
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You approve of homicide of those under a certain age. I see no reason to contrast your position with the position of approving of homicide for those with a particular sexual preference.

Both are equally repugnant to me.
 
tres borrachos said:
No. It's called The First Amendment. It doesn't matter how offensive the speech is, he has a right to use it.
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Indeed. But that doesn't mean the bar association can't kick him out for violating their rules of conduct. I'm not a lawyer, so don't know. I do know what he has proposed is so vile and reprehensible that it boggles the mind.
 

Yes, you can be a recovered alcoholic or drug addict and remain a member of the bar, but if you show up to a legal proceeding drunk or high, you're outta there. It's probably a pretty convoluted process, disbarment. I understand the hearings are pretty intense.
 

But California is not in a separate country, however you put it killing for discriminatory reasons is undoubtedly a federal offense.

And it does not change that what he wants to legalize is murder, plain and simple. He is a Christian Sharia nut-case with such abhorrent religious and moral deviancy that he as said is not of "good character IMHO".

JayDubya said:
You approve of homicide of those under a certain age. I see no reason to contrast your position with the position of approving of homicide for those with a particular sexual preference.

Both are equally repugnant to me.
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I don't ever approve of homicide. You may think that abortion is homicide, I know it is not.
 
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