AmericanSpartan
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What types of welfare? Veterans benefits? Disaster relief aide? Social security? Disability benefits? Student loans? Scholarships? Should we not allow those who drive on public roads to vote because they are receiving a benefit from the government?
So they are free to vote themselves more money and benefits at the expense of my Liberty....
If we honor living in a democratic society than yes.
Some families of military service members are on food stamps. More than a few men and women separate from the military and are unable to find jobs paying a living wage. Far too many Americans, even middle class Americans, are one catastrophe away from needing government assistance. One nasty lingering illness to a family member can far too often does send the family into deep financial water.
Your answer is no doubt that they should get a job or get a better job or get a second job or that they should have saved more money, or should have planned for the unexpected. If it was that easy I have no doubt most of them would have.
Compare the costs and quality of education and healthcare in the US to other western countries. Compare per capita child poverty. After you do all that tell us how the voting poor have had such an unbelievable advantage in spending your "freedom".
It is amazing that you aren't ashamed to have posted what you have.
Should they be allowed to vote while on welfare?
Yes.The laws our elected officials make effect every citizen in this country regardless if they are welfare of if they are the 1% and if you think only people on welfare vote for their interests then you are mistaken.
If we honor living in a democratic society than yes.
We did away with property requirements voting, poll taxes and all that nonsense a long time ago. It should stay dead and buried.
Not everyone on welfare is abusing the system. Instead of advocating taking their vote away, why don't you demand your representatives to reform the system making it harder to be abused. We don't need 50 programs for the same thing and 25 programs for another. The hundreds of programs need to be consolidated to stop the double dipping. Programs we have had for 40 years which have not produced what they were sold to the people they would do, need to be removed.
Encouraging people who have low to no info on the issues to vote is without a doubt one of the worse things that can happen.
This question is brought up largely because many conservatives believe people on welfare would just "vote themselves more welfare" and I don't believe that to be true.
What if we don't honor that?
You don't honor living in a democratic society? Why would anyone want the alternative?
It's not as if there is only one alternative to democracy (totalitarianism). There are many systems of government. I just don't understand why I should prefer mob rule (democracy) to the rule of a tyrant (totalitarianism). At least a tyrant would care about securing the long term wealth of the country in order to benefit himself and his descendants. A politician only cares about getting elected and benefiting himself only as long as he is in office, and as such only cares about the short-term, even if it means the detriment of the long-term.
It's nothing to do with abuse necessarily. Why should those who have no capital to protect have a say in how the capital of a country is distributed?
because a man's worth is not measured by how much he has. At any day any of us could wake up and discover we lost it all. Stuff happens.
You don't like our system? What would you prefer?
The point is that those with little wealth would prefer to vote themselves more wealth, even to the detriment of the long term health of the country, even though it would be immoral.
Should they be allowed to vote while on welfare?
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