Should fundamentalist bickering be allowed upstairs? (1 Viewer)

[jfuh]

As per my former flushed thread, too much rant on my part, I would like to put this to a forum wide vote.
How many of us will agree that partisan bickering threads do not deserve to be upstairs and should be flushed into the basement?
I'm quite sick and tired of posts such as:
this, this, this, and this. Oh and add one more This.
When those of you making those rediculous posts just what is going through your mind? Is your blood boiling with hatred for the liberal left?
This is a civil debate site where I believe the majority of us are here to seriously debate matters that we feel important enough to actually spend time writing. It's quite a shame that there are those who come here only to bash.
Thus my proposal to all those on this site, should such flaming threads be flushed upon post or would you prefer to leave them untouched?

 

[talloulou]

From what I have seen most of the more ridiculous threads are flushed to the basement. What irks me are those who dish out crap and then whine when it gets thrown back at them.

 

[SixStringHero]

I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right? :roll:

 

[Gibberish]

I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right? :roll:

I was thinking the same thing.

Some threads started for the purpose of bashing are sometimes turned around into a real debate (usually not involving the original poster) within a few pages. I guess if you wish to respond to these types of posting make sure your response is focused on the debate offered and not on the negative aspects of the users purpose.

 

[Captain America]

I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right? :roll:

Not so....KidRocks comes to mind. They may harder to find, for sure, but they do exist.

It's just that finding asshole threads from the right is such easy hunting and some folks are just plain lazy. Like fishing in a barrel.

 

[Jerry]

As per my former flushed thread, too much rant on my part, I would like to put this to a forum wide vote.

Your last link has an error and doesn't work.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...r-america.html You need to replace the "..." with code.

Anyway, I voted yes and think that ptsdkid is a troll in this regard.

 

[Captain America]

Your last link has an error and doesn't work.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...r-america.html You need to replace the "..." with code.

Anyway, I voted yes and think that ptsdkid is a troll in this regard.

I think most of the culprits can be found by clicking on the polls forum. We certainly have had a rash of troll polls here lately.

 

[::Major_Baker::]

leave them up here so we can continue to tear the authors a new one, like we did in the 'do liberals honor america' thread.

 

[jfuh]

I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right? :roll:

Actually, it's because these are the most recent, and were the result of a simple search that I didn't want to spend much time on. If we want to talk about the liberal side of things, I'm sure searching Kid-rocks posts will yield, though not as many, such results as well.

 

[jfuh]

Some threads started for the purpose of bashing are sometimes turned around into a real debate (usually not involving the original poster) within a few pages. I guess if you wish to respond to these types of posting make sure your response is focused on the debate offered and not on the negative aspects of the users purpose.

I don't see why this can not be done with the OP starting out with a non-inflamatory thread to begin with.
Note the examples I listed the OP continues on bashing one side and merely on the ideology not the issue brought up.

I really just want clean debates without conservative or liberal bashings as the drive force behind the first post. Now if someone then starts bashing later on, it's unfortunate, but at least the rest can just iggy h/er out all together and continue with normal debate.

 

[jfuh]

Your last link has an error and doesn't work.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...r-america.html You need to replace the "..." with code.

Anyway, I voted yes and think that ptsdkid is a troll in this regard.

Gahhh, damn html.
Here's the original cite
Now let me add one more, how the OP cleverly masks the bashing in the poll:
Note: in choice 1 - valedictorian is allowed to mention God.
in choice 2 - liberal professors indoctrinating students with conspiracy theories.
Just lame.

 

[DeeJayH]

and yet you neglected to Mention Navy Prides post about 'what to do in iraq' was posted in direct response to Ireimons idiotic post with the same title, which were one of the most recent of all

even in addressing a reasonable issue you have to be partisan
pot meet kettle
work on yourself, and let the others take care of themselves
or atleast let the mods deal with it

I believe you belittle the staff here when you post such a bogus thread, instead of bringing it to the attention of the staff PRIVATELY
but you just couldnt pass up the oppurtunity to bash Cons AGAIN

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right? :roll:

Find some examples of current topics started by liberals that personally bashed conservatives. That is all you have to do to prove your point.

 

[jfuh]

and yet you neglected to Mention Navy Prides post about 'what to do in iraq' was posted in direct response to Ireimons idiotic post with the same title, which were one of the most recent of all

even in addressing a reasonable issue you have to be partisan
pot meet kettle
work on yourself, and let the others take care of themselves
or atleast let the mods deal with it

I believe you belittle the staff here when you post such a bogus thread, instead of bringing it to the attention of the staff PRIVATELY
but you just couldnt pass up the oppurtunity to bash Cons AGAIN

Look at the time and dates of the post. Iremon's post was made long after NP's post. You have the mockery spun the other way around.
Where have I bashed cons? I'm bashing fundies.

 

[DeeJayH]

Look at the time and dates of the post. Iremon's post was made long after NP's post. You have the mockery spun the other way around.
Where have I bashed cons? I'm bashing fundies.

oops, thought they were posted 3 mins apart not 11 hours 57 mins apart
but Iriemans post is an example of the lefties doing the same

 

[Iriemon]

oops, thought they were posted 3 mins apart not 11 hours 57 mins apart
but Iriemans post is an example of the lefties doing the same

Yes, Iriemon's idiotic post was a sarcastic lampoon of NP's original poll on the same subject. A lame attempt, no doubt.

 

[doughgirl]

“I notice how the only examples used were from conservatives bashing liberals.

Why is this? Oh yeah, because we know that topics where liberals do the same thing don't exist here right?”

Right on.

What is.. the definition of FREE SPEECH? Should we only have free speech for the liberal? Should the rest of us just sit back and shut up? That is what they would like to happen obviously, because some I guess just cant take it.

Southerndemocrat said, “Find some examples of current topics started by liberals that personally bashed conservatives.”

I have been gone for a few weeks so I can’t address to what has happened in that time period……..but if you look back over the past 6 months………the evidence is there that if you are… conservative, republican, and Christian… you have been bashed.

Libs opinions are clearly stated on this board as are conservative opinions….

So what? They have that right. And we have the right to speak the truths that we see.

Jfuh said, “When those of you making those ridiculous posts just what is going through your mind? Is your blood boiling with hatred for the liberal left?”

How do the liberals on this board act towards the conservative right? Are they always fair and kind in the way they address them?

 

[Iriemon]

Right on.

What is.. the definition of FREE SPEECH? Should we only have free speech for the liberal? Should the rest of us just sit back and shut up? That is what they would like to happen obviously, because some I guess just cant take it.

I have been gone for a few weeks so I can’t address to what has happened in that time period……..but if you look back over the past 6 months………the evidence is there that if you are… conservative, republican, and Christian… you have been bashed.

Libs opinions are clearly stated on this board as are conservative opinions….

So what? They have that right. And we have the right to speak the truths that we see.

How do the liberals on this board act towards the conservative right? Are they always fair and kind in the way they address them?

I basically agree. As long as the threads raise some debatable issue, and are not simply designed to insult, I lean against censorship. Threads that raise no meritorious basis for a discssion (e.g. "Why are conservatives such assholes" types of threads) should be flushed but everything else allowed.

I think the mods in general do a pretty good job on this score as it is, I don't see a need for a major policy change.

 

[Navy Pride]

I posted that thread in all sincerity and in no way meant it as a flame......As we speak I am watching C-SPAN-2 and the democrats are trying to push 2 amendments through to cut and run in Iraq..........The first one was a Kerry Amendment to be out by July 2007 and was defeated 86-13.............. The second one is a Levitt amendment is being voted on now...........

 

[DeeJayH]

I posted that thread in all sincerity and in no way meant it as a flame......As we speak I am watching C-SPAN-2 and the democrats are trying to push 2 amendments through to cut and run in Iraq..........The first one was a Kerry Amendment to be out by July 2007 and was defeated 86-13.............. The second one is a Levitt amendment is being voted on now...........

the poll selections could have been worded fairer, or perhaps the word is more diplomatically

 

[Navy Pride]

the poll selections could have been worded fairer, or perhaps the word is more diplomatically

That is your opinion, I respect it but I don't agree with it..........I lived through one cut and run era and I don't want to live through another because Liberals don't have the stomach to see the war in Iraq through to its completion......

You can dress it up anyway you want to and make it sound nice but make no mistake bout it that is what a lot of people on the left want to do.......

As far as flame polls go I have seen lefties in here start polls saying is President Bush a nazi and I don't hear many complaints about them......

 

[jfuh]

I basically agree. As long as the threads raise some debatable issue, and are not simply designed to insult, I lean against censorship. Threads that raise no meritorious basis for a discssion (e.g. "Why are conservatives such assholes" types of threads) should be flushed but everything else allowed.

I think the mods in general do a pretty good job on this score as it is, I don't see a need for a major policy change.

I'm not going towards individual posts. I'm speaking of threads that start out with obvious intents of nothing but partisan bickering. Whether it be from the OP's argument or from the poll choices provided.
Such threads serve absolutly nothing except to yell across the isle like a lunatic.

 

[jfuh]

oops, thought they were posted 3 mins apart not 11 hours 57 mins apart
but Iriemans post is an example of the lefties doing the same

The post was in mockery of the original post, yes it's distasteful. But it goes to show the kind of anger and bitterness the original thread started.
Thus the point of this thread here.

 

[jfuh]

That is your opinion, I respect it but I don't agree with it..........I lived through one cut and run era and I don't want to live through another because Liberals don't have the stomach to see the war in Iraq through to its completion......

You can dress it up anyway you want to and make it sound nice but make no mistake bout it that is what a lot of people on the left want to do.......

As far as flame polls go I have seen lefties in here start polls saying is President Bush a nazi and I don't hear many complaints about them......

And this is what I mean exactly, withing no more then a single sentence, liberal bashing. Seriously NP, will you take the challenge to go through 50 posts without bashing the left, liberals or so on?

 

[talloulou]

And this is what I mean exactly, withing no more then a single sentence, liberal bashing. Seriously NP, will you take the challenge to go through 50 posts without bashing the left, liberals or so on?

How sensitive should we really be though when it comes to discussing politics? The majority of people who do want to cut and run in regards to Iraq are liberal aren't they? I don't see how Navy Pride stating that is akin to liberal bashing? I do think there are stupid threads started by trolls who just want to do nothing but bash. But I think arguing that liberals seem to want to cut and run in Iraq is pretty legit as far as debating politics go.

And for what it's worth you yourself jfuh have made comments regarding conservatives and sex....how they're not good at it....how they need more of it....ect. So what the f**k are you whining about? Someone must have got you good! I'm sorrry I missed that....ROFLMAO