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Should Evangelical Christians be Profiled? (1 Viewer)

Should Evangelical Christians be Profiled?

  • No

    Votes: 7 36.8%

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 36.8%

  • Profiling Muslims is good--Christians bad.

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • If this group produces a Timothy McVeigh--ok.

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • We will have to wait and see if they bomb something.

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • Total voters
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This poll is motivated by the new film Jesus Camp. Quotes from below are from: http://news.pajamasmedia.com/business/2006/09/25/11025684_Star_Tribune_Min.shtml

The film, by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady, takes us to a Bible camp called "Kids On Fire," where the children of evangelical Christians are indoctrinated in a militant faith that sees nonbelievers as opponents and secular government as an enemy to overthrow.

We get kids in combat fatigues, their faces painted in camouflage colors, who sob, speak in tongues and pray for Jesus to re-make America in his image. Or, more accurately, to re-make it according to the plan of the adults who are turning these children into good little Evangelical mujahaddin.

There's a scene showing the kids praying before a cardboard cut-out of President George W. Bush.

"Today is a fulfillment of prophecy," she tells the kids. "We've got to stand up and take back the land.

"Jesus Camp" (go to jesuscampthemovie.com to learn more) is about a North Dakota camp attended by kids from throughout the country.

Muslims are the enemy, along with liberals and the shadowy forces of secularism and humanism who want us to believe in evolution and the Big Bang.
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When a precocious 9-year-old girl, on fire for the Lord, accosts some elderly black men and asks what will happen to them when they die, they answer they expect to go to Heaven. Rattled, and without a reason to preach, she walks away and mutters: "I think they were Muslims."
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Depends...profile them for what?

If the police are looking for an evangelical Christian group plotting the violent overthrow of the government, it would seem to make sense to focus on evangelical Christians...
 
Should that day come, I expect the mainstream media to refer to Christian abortion-doctor-snipers as "militants" and "gunmen".

I also expect politicians to get on Face the Nation and Meet the Press and sympathize with the plight of the Christian, how the US is causing the problem, disserved {{insert terrorist attack here}} due to our domestic policy, count the dead solders for the expressed point and purpose of swaying public opinion against the sitting president combating these Christian "militants"......you gat the idea.

I can see it now........

Intimidating the West, from Rushdie to Benedict

By Daniel Pipes {parodied by myself}
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 27, 2006

The violence by Christians responding to comments by Hojjat-ol-Eslam Seyed Mohammed Khatami fit a pattern that has been building and accelerating since 1989. Six times since then, Easterners did or said something that triggered death threats and violence in the Christian world. Looking at them in the aggregate offers useful insights.

· 1989 Salman Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses prompted Tim Lahay to issue a death edict against him and his publishers, on the grounds that the book "is against Christianity, the Christ, and the Bible." Subsequent rioting led to over 20 deaths, mostly in the U.S.

· 1997 The U.S. Supreme Court refused to remove a 1930s frieze showing Moses as lawgiver that decorates the main court chamber; the Council on American-Christian Relations made an issue of this, leading to riots and injuries in the U.S..

· 2002 The American Muslim leader Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi called Jesus a "terrorist," leading to Mosque burnings and at least 10 deaths in the U.S.

· 2005 An incorrect story in Newsweek, reporting that American interrogators at Guantánamo Bay, "in an attempt to rattle suspects, flushed a Bible down a toilet," was picked up by the famous American cricketer, Jerry Falwell, and prompted protests around the Christian world, leading to at least 15 deaths.....
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Jerry said:
Should that day come, I expect the mainstream media to refer to Christian abortion-doctor-snipers as "militants" and "gunmen".

I also expect politicians to get on Face the Nation and Meet the Press and sympathize with the plight of the Christian, how the US is causing the problem, disserved {{insert terrorist attack here}} due to our domestic policy, count the dead solders for the expressed point and purpose of swaying public opinion against the sitting president combating these Christian "militants"......you gat the idea.

I can see it now........
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Nice.........:lol:
 
Very sickening to see children be prey upon by over zealous zealots.
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
This poll is motivated by the new film Jesus Camp.
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what a ****ing creepy movie! I saw it last saturday.
 
Kandahar said:
Depends...profile them for what?

If the police are looking for an evangelical Christian group plotting the violent overthrow of the government, it would seem to make sense to focus on evangelical Christians...
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i don't think they would do that. In the movie one of their leaders said that this country has never look so well upon christians as it does now and that George W. Bush is a holy man who was appointed by god as president.
 
Much as I dislike frothing-at-the-mouth religious zealots, I don't think we have any more reason to profile them than we do any other random segment of the population. There's crazies everywhere, and they're not limited to a single subculture; we should focus on crazy, with any of their other characteristics being a side-note. Maybe once we start to notice that being an evangelical christian vastly increases the tendency to be crazy...but until then: no.
 
i put no because no group should be profiled.
 
nogoodname said:
i put no because no group should be profiled.
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So you think that if the police are looking for a KKK member who just lynched a black guy, they should consider white men and Asian women to be equally likely suspects?

If the police are looking for a terrorist, they should consider Arab men and white Girl Scouts to be equally likely suspects?
 
Kandahar said:
So you think that if the police are looking for a KKK member who just lynched a black guy, they should consider white men and Asian women to be equally likely suspects?

If the police are looking for a terrorist, they should consider Arab men and white Girl Scouts to be equally likely suspects?
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no they should look for the guy who fits the description. If they say terrorist and they just a say arab tan man well how that is diffrent but they say
(Name)
(Height)
(Weight) and stuff then its diffrent because they have a discription.
 
nogoodname said:
no they should look for the guy who fits the description. If they say terrorist and they just a say arab tan man well how that is diffrent but they say
(Name)
(Height)
(Weight) and stuff then its diffrent because they have a discription.
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What if they DON'T have a description? Should they consider white men and Asian women to be equally likely suspects of KKK violence?
 
My Church has a mission trip in the Canary Islands right now. Providing medicine, money, shelter, food......

I imagine we would love to have them "profiled" on the national news.

not likely to happen though.
 
Kandahar said:
What if they DON'T have a description? Should they consider white men and Asian women to be equally likely suspects of KKK violence?
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Neather anless the whiteman has or asian lady have a record of being in the KKK.
 
nogoodname said:
Neather anless the whiteman has or asian lady have a record of being in the KKK.
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Umm, I don't think you're understanding the concept of profiling. Profiling is when the police are told to, say, "Be on the lookout for any suspicious people who might have ties to KKK violence." It would be nonsensical for them to pay equal attention to white men and Asian women, as though they were equally likely suspects.
 
Yes.
The last choice is invalid, since they've already bombed abortion clinics. Why wait?

I was on a train recently and there were FIVE of them. Two nuns, a priest and two monks, from that weird extreme Catholic sect. All in long flowing robes and the women with that weird headgear that only symbolizes oppression and backwardness. Christian extremeists - they're everywhere. They're out to convert us. You have to be strong to resisit. They'll want to influence secular laws next. They won't be happy until they limit YOUR freedom. Then that will be it - religious tyranny all around us.

Start profiling now I say.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Yes.
The last choice is invalid, since they've already bombed abortion clinics. Why wait?

I was on a train recently and there were FIVE of them. Two nuns, a priest and two monks, from that weird extreme Catholic sect. All in long flowing robes and the women with that weird headgear that only symbolizes oppression and backwardness. Christian extremeists - they're everywhere. They're out to convert us. You have to be strong to resisit. They'll want to influence secular laws next. They won't be happy until they limit YOUR freedom. Then that will be it - religious tyranny all around us.

Start profiling now I say.
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Wow that has to be one of the most antisemtic posts I have ever seen....
 
As much as I don't like religous radicalism of any faith. I have to vote no.
 
Navy Pride said:
Wow that has to be one of the most antisemtic posts I have ever seen....
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What? Where did you see any reference to any Semitic peoples in his post, stated or implied? Because I certainly missed it...
 
Navy Pride said:
Wow that has to be one of the most antisemtic posts I have ever seen....
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so its antisemtic to profile christians but not antisemtic to profile muslims.............................Ya your not being hypocritical at all.:lol: :2razz:
 
To use the word anti-semitic is a misnomer in this day and age; the media and educational system would like you to believe that just Jews are semitic (of the bible line of Shem) and yet most Arabs have just as much Semitic blood and proof of it as any Ashkenazi, Sephardic or Khazaar Jew. Google the topic. Hence the term Anti-Semitic should be thrown out and replaced with an appropiate term. :2wave:

Profiled for what?
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To prevent another OKC bombing, another Eric Rudolf, Phineas Preisthood, 9-11, Ted Kaczinski, Army of God killing spree, etc.; regardless of what religious, political, social or economical motive they state or believe in--it's still a Terrorist act..:shock:

Here is a list of 60 foiled terrorist attacks since OKC from the far right: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=903 Those DP'ers who say something in the regards of "I would profile anyone of any race, religion, philosophical, anarchist, political based terroristic ideology" can finally see it's just excuse they have made up to hid behind their anti-Muslim mask. Because if the war on Terror was consistent and applied to all; we would have many White and/or Christians of America under the same scrutiny*
, enforcement, and bars as Muslims. Until that day comes--the War on Terror is just a misnomer like the anti-semitic misnomer. Thank you.

*includes media and law
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
Should Evangelical Christians be Profiled?
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Muslims are profiled by security personnel because of the way they look. What do Evengeilical Christians look like?


Duke

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