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Should "European Mary" depictions be removed?

Should "European Mary" depictions be removed?

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Jason Warfield

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Isn't it kind of racist to assume that "Oh, no, Mary could have not possibly been that white because she was a Jew"?

SMH...where do you people come up with this?

It has nothing to do with her being a Jew...it has to do with the fact that the vast majority of the people who lived in that area of the world tended to be darker, olive-skinned, so in terms of historical fact, if Mary existed, it would almost be certain that she was not white due to the racial demographics of where she is from. Same goes for Jesus. Odds were he was not a tall, white man with a beard, but most likely a bit shorter, olive-skinned and very dark hair.
 

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What a ridiculous question, considering the fact that Palestinians don't exist and never did, and the name only started to be used by Arafat in the 1960s. "Palestinians" are Arabs. A contemporary of Arafat said "I went to sleep Jordanian and woke up Palestinian". I can't believe anyone with any knowledge whatsoever would even consider such a ridiculous question.
 

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Can we stop talking about Europe and more about America? Europe is still jealous over 1776 and the fact that the USA is the oldest and greatest country ever! Go Red White and Blue!!

Yes that's true. We Europeans just do no not understand, even now, that no country existed before 1776. And the US of A must be the greatest otherwise all those Yanks would not spend half their lives telling each other about its all round wonderfulness.
 

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What a ridiculous question, considering the fact that Palestinians don't exist and never did, and the name only started to be used by Arafat in the 1960s. "Palestinians" are Arabs. A contemporary of Arafat said "I went to sleep Jordanian and woke up Palestinian". I can't believe anyone with any knowledge whatsoever would even consider such a ridiculous question.

I dis-agree.

The term "Palestine" existed long before Arafat.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era. After Roman times the name had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain; in addition to an area roughly comprising present-day Israel and the West Bank, the mandate included the territory east of the Jordan River now constituting the Hashimite Kingdom of Jordan, which Britain placed under an administration separate from that of Palestine immediately after receiving the mandate for the territory.

More about it: Palestine | History, People, & Religion | Britannica
 

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Yes that's true. We Europeans just do no not understand, even now, that no country existed before 1776. And the US of A must be the greatest otherwise all those Yanks would not spend half their lives telling each other about its all round wonderfulness.


:mrgreen::lamo:cool::peace
 

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SMH...where do you people come up with this?
I do not know who "you people" is supposed to mean. Are you being racist again? :D

It has nothing to do with her being a Jew...it has to do with the fact that the vast majority of the people who lived in that area of the world tended to be darker, olive-skinned, so in terms of historical fact, if Mary existed, it would almost be certain that she was not white due to the racial demographics of where she is from.
Vast majority , tended, almost certain. I see there is a lot of speculation on your part. :)

I honestly do not give a crap about how Virgin Mary actually looked. I do not even think she ever even existed.


Same goes for Jesus. Odds were he was not a tall, white man with a beard, but most likely a bit shorter, olive-skinned and very dark hair.
Racist.
 

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Can we stop talking about Europe and more about America? Europe is still jealous over 1776 and the fact that the USA is the oldest and greatest country ever! Go Red White and Blue!!

You are forgetting about all the liberals and leftist, who live here and who bring down the total. Fake news is not that special and constant lying and cheating by the left; collusion delusion, was not that special. The left will not accept this statement of special since they know there are too many left wing zombies, con artists, anarchists and dead beats to make this claim. They seem content with second or third best.

Trump was trying to make America great again but reversing the diminishing returns of the progressive agenda, but the left wants the USA to be less than great more than anything else. Yu will hear it anytime you mention USA and greatness. The election of Biden, as remote as it is, will dumb down America and make it corrupt enough to where thy left can proudly claim we are the worse country in history.
 

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This topic makes me think of an old rhyme:

Mary, Mary, quite contrary,
How does your garden grow?
With silver bells, and cockle shells,
And pretty maids all in a row.

:)
 

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Trump was trying to make America great again but reversing the diminishing returns of the progressive agenda, but the left wants the USA to be less than great more than anything else. Yu will hear it anytime you mention USA and greatness. The election of Biden, as remote as it is, will dumb down America and make it corrupt enough to where thy left can proudly claim we are the worse country in history.

What has Trump got to do with Holy Mary? :cool:
 

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Can we stop talking about Europe and more about America? Europe is still jealous over 1776 and the fact that the USA is the oldest and greatest country ever! Go Red White and Blue!!
Who the heck is "Europe"?
 

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You are forgetting about all the liberals and leftist, who live here and who bring down the total. Fake news is not that special and constant lying and cheating by the left; collusion delusion, was not that special. The left will not accept this statement of special since they know there are too many left wing zombies, con artists, anarchists and dead beats to make this claim. They seem content with second or third best.

Trump was trying to make America great again but reversing the diminishing returns of the progressive agenda, but the left wants the USA to be less than great more than anything else. Yu will hear it anytime you mention USA and greatness. The election of Biden, as remote as it is, will dumb down America and make it corrupt enough to where thy left can proudly claim we are the worse country in history.
Partisan fanboy-ism is one of the greatest societal pandemics contemporary America is dealing with. Even if the topic is ice cream, fanboys and fangirls, somehow, find a way to turn it into a discussion about "Democrats vs Republicans".

Absolutely pathetic.
 

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I don't mean to rain on anyone's "Palestinians have to be dark" parade but it is BS. Below is an article on famous Palestinian women and a great many of them have light skin.

famous palestinian women - Bing images
shakira (1).jpg
 

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Originally Posted by calamity View Post
Anyone ever notice that the Easter Bunny is white?

In our region the Easter Bunny is a big bown field hare - like the March Hare.

The European hare (Lepus europaeus), also known as the brown hare, is a species of hare native to Europe and parts of Asia. It is among the largest hare species and is adapted to temperate, open country. Hares are herbivorous and feed mainly on grasses and herbs, supplementing these with twigs, buds, bark and field crops, particularly in winter. Their natural predators include large birds of prey, canids and felids. They rely on high-speed endurance running to escape predation, having long, powerful limbs and large nostrils.

Generally nocturnal and shy in nature, hares change their behaviour in the spring, when they can be seen in broad daylight chasing one another around in fields. During this spring frenzy, they sometimes strike one another with their paws ("boxing"). This is usually not competition between males, but a female hitting a male, either to show she is not yet ready to mate or as a test of his determination. The female nests in a depression on the surface of the ground rather than in a burrow and the young are active as soon as they are born. Litters may consist of three or four young and a female can bear three litters a year, with hares living for up to twelve years. The breeding season lasts from January to August.

European hare - Wikipedia
 

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And now let us return to the Question of Mary. :)
 

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You are forgetting about all the liberals and leftist, who live here and who bring down the total. Fake news is not that special and constant lying and cheating by the left; collusion delusion, was not that special. The left will not accept this statement of special since they know there are too many left wing zombies, con artists, anarchists and dead beats to make this claim. They seem content with second or third best.

Trump was trying to make America great again but reversing the diminishing returns of the progressive agenda, but the left wants the USA to be less than great more than anything else. Yu will hear it anytime you mention USA and greatness. The election of Biden, as remote as it is, will dumb down America and make it corrupt enough to where thy left can proudly claim we are the worse country in history.


Fake news is nothing more than news that isn't true. Boiled down to its core, the media serves the essential purpose of informing its citizens of day to day information. This left-wing nonsense you are talking about is foreign to Americans (who still believe that Europe is the oldest nation on earth).
 

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They could be removed from public buildings and places but anybody that wants them removed from private places or churches need to get a ****ing life or just **** off and die... wither way is fine with me.
 
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