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Should black history be integrated into regular American History?

Should black history be integrated into regualr American History?

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With February coming up this seems like the perfect time to bring this topic up.
Should Black History be integrated into regular American history?


From the father of Black History
Carter Godwin Woodson: “Father of Black History” Bio-Bibliography
Dr. Woodson often said that he hoped the time would come when Negro History Week would be unnecessary; when all Americans would willingly recognize the contributions of Black Americans as a legitimate and integral part of the history of this country.




Even a actor agrees with the father of black history and he goes even further to say that racial lables only further racism in this country.

Morgan Freeman Blasts Black History Month

"I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

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Freeman notes there is no "white history month," and says the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."
The actor says he believes the labels "black" and "white" are an obstacle to beating racism.






I think it makes sense to integrate black history into regular American history.Black American history is just as much as American history as white American history is.Even though some of us are not black,black American history it is part of American history and therefore part of every American's history.So it should be integrated into regular American history.
 
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Of course black history should be integrated into regular American history. And I agree that giving black people a month, week, whatever separates them from everyone else, and eliminating this would be a step to eliminate racism. Instead of being so politically correct we need to let people make fun of other's race, because by doing so it's funny and it brings us together. Trying to protect other races just separates us even more.
 
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I agree. It makes sense just to combine it. At my high school, we never really observed black history month anyway.
 
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I agree.

Anything like this, irregardless of which artificial division group (New acronym, ADG) it is applied to, will create separation and division among us instead of helping to combine the citizens of this great country (even if, like all great entities, it has it's bad moments) together for some more or less common goals. I'm positive that there are at least a few things that the whole country could agree on. With, of course, those few exceptions (*cough* Idiots *cough*) who disagree on the shape of the earth and such.
 
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I am surprised about the lack of results of this poll.Surely more than 10 people would have voted.
 
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jamesrage said:
I am surprised about the lack of results of this poll.Surely more than 10 people would have voted.
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The poll is a bit of a trick, as the OP makes clear.
Most of us do believe black history (and women's history, and everybody's history) ought to be integrated into "regular" (ie, white male) history; many of those who feel this way do not, however, support the abolition of "black history month"; at least, that is my suspicion.
 
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I've never gone to school in the United States so I could be completely wrong here but from what I've seen with my own kids is that the majority of the history textbooks they used seem to be relatively old and came from an era where no one but white men were respected so of course they focus on the achievements of white males. I think it would be more helpful to all Americans to learn history from a modern perspective, that is one that respects the achievements of all who formed this country regardless of their race or gender. Mind you I imagine rewriting history properly would be very expensive but teachers should certainly make the kids aware of the time period and racial and sexist tendencies of the era the books and research they are using came from. Could lead to some interesting classroom discussions.
 
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I seem to remember hearing about the contribution of the Chinese, for instance, in building the RR's. What about Asian History Month, there is not one of those. ;)

Black History Month does not promote Racism like La Raza or the Asian Club meetings that were at my campus. But, if you single out a race, for any reason, you are not intergrating positively.

Separation does not lend to togetherness.
 
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Should black history be integrated into regular American history?

It depends I guess...

Black history is already part of American history. The first 250 years of this nation only happened because of the work of slaves so believing that black history isn't already as integrated as it can be into U.S. history is foolish. However I think this is one of those parts of our history that isn't taught enough. Kids know more about the history of the Nintendo then they do about our country. They are given the basics but they dont understand why some things happened. They know who Harriet Tubbman was but they dont know about the people who helped her along the way. It's like they know what happened but not why. So the situation doesn't really improve. Black history shouldn't have it's own class but I believe it should be more thurougly explained.
 
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Johnny_Utah said:
I seem to remember hearing about the contribution of the Chinese, for instance, in building the RR's. What about Asian History Month, there is not one of those. ;)

Black History Month does not promote Racism like La Raza or the Asian Club meetings that were at my campus. But, if you single out a race, for any reason, you are not intergrating positively.

Separation does not lend to togetherness.
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La Raza means "the race".
 
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I know James, and I think that that is inherently Racist.
 
I think ALL history should be taught from every aspect available but I don't think we should have a "black" history month or any other month solely for one group.
 
I think that it is important for the constituent individuals of a culture or subculture to observe history from their point of view. However, it is not necessary nor is it progressive to divide history by ethnic faction.
 
I remember once when I was in high school and "black history" time came about.

I had a black english teacher at the time, and I asked her, "Why do we need a "black history month", I mean.. there is no "White History Month""

She snapped back at me, "EVERY OTHER MONTH IS WHITE HISTORY MONTH"

Fast Forward to 2006 in Mecklenburg County, NC. The county commissioners were voting upon changing the already heavily debated Confederate History Day to a Confederate History Week. I mean, we are in the South. It is a part of our history to learn about what makes the south so difference from so many other states correct?
Yet which members of the local media/county commissioners argued that such a devotion to the history of the confederacy would "furthur the spread of racism"? You guessed it, the black community.

Can you say hypocrites?
 
It's already pretty well integrated I think. I mean, any textbooks we used in high school were inclusive of women and minority accomplishments.
 
Well, when I was in school every month was Black History Month, I came to despise February because it was the month where everything that I learned and heard about all day every day in school was broadcast all over tv and I hated anything that reminded me of that stupid school with it's psychotic people.

So I voted yes, it should be integrated, although I'm over the trauma, I hate the memories... If it's stopped that would be wonderful.
 
Caine said:
I remember once when I was in high school and "black history" time came about.

I had a black english teacher at the time, and I asked her, "Why do we need a "black history month", I mean.. there is no "White History Month""

She snapped back at me, "EVERY OTHER MONTH IS WHITE HISTORY MONTH"

Fast Forward to 2006 in Mecklenburg County, NC. The county commissioners were voting upon changing the already heavily debated Confederate History Day to a Confederate History Week. I mean, we are in the South. It is a part of our history to learn about what makes the south so difference from so many other states correct?
Yet which members of the local media/county commissioners argued that such a devotion to the history of the confederacy would "furthur the spread of racism"? You guessed it, the black community.

Can you say hypocrites?
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On that note, Confederate history and southern history in general are very rich in cultural contributions, political paradigms and philosophies, religious movements, international ties, and literature. I don't know why there isn't more devotion to the rich history of the south and some of the political papers and writings that came out of the confederacy. Studying the confederacy isn't just an exercise in studying the slavery issue, but rather an in depth look at just how inflammatory the states' rights issue was at the time.
 
jallman said:
On that note, Confederate history and southern history in general are very rich in cultural contributions, political paradigms and philosophies, religious movements, international ties, and literature. I don't know why there isn't more devotion to the rich history of the south and some of the political papers and writings that came out of the confederacy. Studying the confederacy isn't just an exercise in studying the slavery issue, but rather an in depth look at just how inflammatory the states' rights issue was at the time.
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Well, even for those of us without a racially motivated agenda know that the Confederacy was about much more than just "Slavery".

I can't stand it when someone catches a glimpse of a Confederate flag or something portraying the actual flag (bumper stickers, decorative vehicle tags) and thinks, "RACIST BASTARDS!"

That one burns me up worse than anything.

I mean... you see blacks with a sort of African flag or african colored symbolism, and you think "They must have pride in their culture/heritage".

But most every single black you come across, and many whites will see a confederate flag as a sign of Racism, instead of Southern Cultural Pride.

That pisses me off.
 
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1069 said:
The poll is a bit of a trick, as the OP makes clear.
Most of us do believe black history (and women's history, and everybody's history) ought to be integrated into "regular" (ie, white male) history; many of those who feel this way do not, however, support the abolition of "black history month"; at least, that is my suspicion.
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OK, so let's rephrase the question a bit: Do you think that it's acceptable to segregate black history from non-black history?
 
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Johnny_Utah said:
I seem to remember hearing about the contribution of the Chinese, for instance, in building the RR's. What about Asian History Month, there is not one of those. ;)

Black History Month does not promote Racism like La Raza or the Asian Club meetings that were at my campus. But, if you single out a race, for any reason, you are not intergrating positively.

Separation does not lend to togetherness.
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How about Norwegian history month. My ancestors were some of the hardest working people that ever came to America and do we get any special recognition?
 
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faithful_servant said:
How about Norwegian history month. My ancestors were some of the hardest working people that ever came to America and do we get any special recognition?
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No, Because you weren't enslaved and oppressed by the EVIL WHITE MAN
 
Black History month deserves a put in society just like white (American) history. Here is a url to visit concerning Black history, and how the idea came about. Black History Month: the History of Black History When I was in grade school we learned about George Washington,Abe Lincoln,General Patton, the pope ,etc,etc,etc. I am starting to wonder why everything Blacks seem to create or have whites want to take it away,or submerge it into their ways of thinking. Why should it be intergrated into white history when in the past we was mistreated by whites?, and now American history wants to take the credits.....I voted NO.
 
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PoliticalActivist said:
Black History month deserves a put in society just like white (American) history. Here is a url to visit concerning Black history, and how the idea came about. Black History Month: the History of Black History When I was in grade school we learned about George Washington,Abe Lincoln,General Patton, the pope ,etc,etc,etc. I am starting to wonder why everything Blacks seem to create or have whites want to take it away,or submerge it into their ways of thinking. Why should it be intergrated into white history when in the past we was mistreated by whites?, and now American history wants to take the credits.....I voted NO.
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You were no more mistreated than any other enslaved race. Blacks have got no monopoly on being oppressed so all the whining and bitching about it is inane and boring at this point. I am Romanian...you want to talk to me about oppression? You want to talk to me about mistreatment and a culture being undermined? Well then I want a Romanian history month and...reparations...I want a Romanian history month and reparations as well....
 
Caine said:
Well, even for those of us without a racially motivated agenda know that the Confederacy was about much more than just "Slavery".

I can't stand it when someone catches a glimpse of a Confederate flag or something portraying the actual flag (bumper stickers, decorative vehicle tags) and thinks, "RACIST BASTARDS!"

That one burns me up worse than anything.

I mean... you see blacks with a sort of African flag or african colored symbolism, and you think "They must have pride in their culture/heritage".

But most every single black you come across, and many whites will see a confederate flag as a sign of Racism, instead of Southern Cultural Pride.

That pisses me off.
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Here's the deal with that. The nazi symbol (god, what's it called...) did not always represent nazi-ism. It's been around for a long time and has represented various things in various cultures. Good luck on displaying that one though and arguing that it means something else. Why is that? Because what the Nazi's did was so horrendous that it was forever tied to that symbol. The same thing, if to a lesser degree, has happened with the Confederate flag. One of the things that the South stood for was slavery and it is so morally disgusting to what we believe today that the Confederate flag has been tied in many people's mind to slavery only, despite the many other things that Confederacy stood for.

I hate seeing it too. The first thing I think is that the person must be racist. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
 
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