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Shell hits military camp in Russia, most likely from Ukrainian side - Tass

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A shell hit a temporary Russian military camp near the border with Ukraine late on Tuesday, Tass news agency said and cited a source as saying preliminary data showed it had been fired from the Ukrainian side.

Reporting by David Ljunggren; Editing by Sandra Maler and Howard Goller

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ity-close-ukraine-border-governor-2022-03-29/

Information is being verified by western media ongoing.

The Russian state media
reported the cause of the explosions near Belgorod as "human factors". This was reported by RIA Novosti, citing a source in the emergency services.

 

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I can’t believe that Russia would have the hubris to go on about a strike in their country.

The longer this goes on, the more chance there is that it cannot be “contained.”
 

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A shell hit a temporary Russian military camp near the border with Ukraine late on Tuesday, Tass news agency said and cited a source as saying preliminary data showed it had been fired from the Ukrainian side.

Reporting by David Ljunggren; Editing by Sandra Maler and Howard Goller

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ity-close-ukraine-border-governor-2022-03-29/

Information is being verified by western media ongoing.

The Russian state media
reported the cause of the explosions near Belgorod as "human factors". This was reported by RIA Novosti, citing a source in the emergency services.


Uh oh!!! This is serious!!! Now Ukraine is killing Russians and that will provoke a nuclear war! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

Somebody really needs to get in there and tell Zelensky that he needs to stop this aggression and die like a man so that the rest of us can save the world with sanctions and sternly worded letters.
 

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Uh oh!!! This is serious!!! Now Ukraine is killing Russians and that will provoke a nuclear war! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

Somebody really needs to get in there and tell Zelensky that he needs to stop this aggression and die like a man so that the rest of us can save the world with sanctions and sternly worded letters.
Why do you support risking the NATO, EU stability, nuclear war, and more civilians casualties to fight in Ukraine?

There are reports of American troops sitting at the polish border training Ukrainians daily to fight. To fight armed with? With weapons that the alliance is giving, for free, on a daily basis.

not enough.

Ok, then the other option, if you don't like what NATO is doing, is to go fight. I heard from a friend of mine that lives in Algeria (yah I have friends from everywhere) that the Ukrainians were calling regular Algerian homes asking for volunteers to fight in the foreign guard. The website is user-friendly too.

Don't sign up, it looks cool only from the front of the computer. War is cruel.
 
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Why do you support risking the NATO, EU stability, nuclear war, and more civilians casualties to fight in Ukraine?

There are reports of American troops sitting at the polish border training Ukrainians daily to fight. To fight armed with? With weapons that the alliance is giving, for free, on a daily basis.

not enough.

Ok, then the other option, if you don't like what NATO is doing, is to go fight. I heard from a friend of mine that lives in Algeria (yah I have friends from everywhere) that the Ukrainians were calling regular Algerian homes asking for volunteers to fight in the foreign guard. The website is user-friendly too.

Don't sign up, it looks cool only from the front of the computer. War is cruel.
I don't support going into Russia but I would damned sure support using US and other forces to take over a few Ukrainian air bases, provide Patriot batteries and establish and protect air corridors through which Ukrainians could be properly supplied and, when necessary, evacuated. I would also support shooting down any Russian plane or missile in Ukrainian airspace that is being used to disrupt that supply corridor or defensive base. Ukrainians can and should do the fighting but providing MEANINGFUL support should be a priority of the free world and if it "provokes" Putin then that's his problem.

I get that nobody wants nuclear war and I don't want it either but with that lunatic running the show from Moscow we're already all at pretty significant risk whether he's feeling "provoked" or not.
 

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I wish they could hit Putin's palace outside of Crimea. It's pretty big--would take quite a few shells.
I wonder if his insurance would cover it.

"Um...sorry Mr. Putzin, sir. But your coverage does not include 'war damage'. We cover natural disasters and accidents. For war coverage, you could try Farmers Insurance Group."
 

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Interesting timing with the peace talks and Russia saying they will back off…

Smells very fishy
 

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Russian State Media is now reporting that Ukrainian Artillery Shelled a Russian Military Installation in the Belgorod Region wounding at least 4 Russian Servicemen, Confirming the Explosions we saw earlier.

Kyiv was getting shelled a few minutes ago:




I’m not buying this at all from the Russians
 

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Kyiv was getting shelled a few minutes ago:


I removed the part with "Russian media confirms that the Ukrainians attacked".

The Ukrainians are saying this.

I have yet to find something concrete that the Russian media said this. If someone finds a source, let me know.
 

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I’m not buying this at all from the Russians
Whether you buy it or not isn't important. What IS important is that no matter what happens you get scared, stay scared and implore everyone around you to be scared. Unless we all cower in fear then Putin will be provoked and there will be nuclear war.

At least that's the message I've been getting out of half the folks around here for the past month. It's like they went from Covid fear straight into nuclear war fear. It's like FDR said back in '33, "We have nothing to fear but....find something!!! Find it now!!!!"
 

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Whether you buy it or not isn't important. What IS important is that no matter what happens you get scared, stay scared and implore everyone around you to be scared. Unless we all cower in fear then Putin will be provoked and there will be nuclear war.

At least that's the message I've been getting out of half the folks around here for the past month. It's like they went from Covid fear straight into nuclear war fear. It's like FDR said back in '33, "We have nothing to fear but....find something!!! Find it now!!!!"

I’m not scared lol if it was the Ukraine i applaud them. But the timing is very interesting. Russia say they are going to back off Kyiv, US and UK intelligence warns not to trust them and then boom hours later Russia gets mysteriously shelled by Ukraine…
 

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Whether you buy it or not isn't important. What IS important is that no matter what happens you get scared, stay scared and implore everyone around you to be scared. Unless we all cower in fear then Putin will be provoked and there will be nuclear war.

At least that's the message I've been getting out of half the folks around here for the past month. It's like they went from Covid fear straight into nuclear war fear. It's like FDR said back in '33, "We have nothing to fear but....find something!!! Find it now!!!!"

That fear is likely to cause the French toast loving, toilet paper hoarders to immediately go out in droves. Expect serious shortages of bread, milk, eggs and, of course, toilet paper to occur very soon. ;)
 

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I’m not scared lol if it was the Ukraine i applaud them. But the timing is very interesting. Russia say they are going to back off Kyiv, US and UK intelligence warns not to trust them and then boom hours later Russia gets mysteriously shelled by Ukraine…
The propaganda volume knob has been turned to 11 at this point. Putin is just as likely to have blamed internal sabotage on Ukraine as Ukraine is to have attacked a Russian base. There is also the possibility that Ukraine had intel on something rather significant at that base and took it out preemptively. It's unlikely that we'll ever get a reliable story on what happened.
 

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Uh oh!!! This is serious!!! Now Ukraine is killing Russians and that will provoke a nuclear war! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

Somebody really needs to get in there and tell Zelensky that he needs to stop this aggression and die like a man so that the rest of us can save the world with sanctions and sternly worded letters.
Our we sure it's not another false flag?

The Russians are sneaky, yes they would lob missiles at themself as an excuse to escalate the conflict.
 

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1. I would also support shooting down any Russian plane or missile in Ukrainian airspace that is being used to disrupt that supply corridor or defensive base.
2. Ukrainians can and should do the fighting but providing MEANINGFUL support should be a priority of the free world and if it "provokes" Putin then that's his problem.
3. I get that nobody wants nuclear war and I don't want it either but with that lunatic running the show from Moscow we're already all at pretty significant risk whether he's feeling "provoked" or not.
1. Wait, you support NATO troops to take down Russian planes? You played too much Red Alert with all due respect.
2. Meaningful support is: weapons like candy via Poland, Slovakia, and Romania for free, intelligence sharing in real-time, humanitarian help, refugee assistance from every European country (with the risk of populism at hand). How about the Turkish drones? How about American trainers working day and night to train the Ukrainian fighters.
3. You don't want nuclear war. Then what is wrong with economic sanctions which at times can be worst than war itself? Add that to the list that Europe and NATO did for Zelensky.

I am kind of getting tired of this lack of gratitude that is pushed by some in the Ukrainian leadership getting Westerners to doubt their institutions that are working daily to support Ukraine.
 

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The propaganda volume knob has been turned to 11 at this point. Putin is just as likely to have blamed internal sabotage on Ukraine as Ukraine is to have attacked a Russian base. There is also the possibility that Ukraine had intel on something rather significant at that base and took it out preemptively. It's unlikely that we'll ever get a reliable story on what happened.

We’re at a very interesting junction. I feel like the coming days could really shape the direction of this war.
I also agree with you on arming Ukrainian bases with not just patriots but also sky Sabre from us which is replacing Rapier.
 

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That fear is likely to cause the French toast loving, toilet paper hoarders to immediately come out in droves. Expect serious shortages of bread, milk, eggs and, of course, toilet paper to occur very soon. ;)
I do like French Toast but bread, milk and eggs just don't last when it comes to hoarding. I do have TP but I ALWAYS have TP...and enough ammunition to make sure it stays mine!!
 

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Our we sure it's not another false flag?

The Russians are sneaky, yes they would lob missiles at themself as an excuse to escalate the conflict.

I think this is precisely what this is. Putin wants the footage and the justification that goes with it to continue his push on Kyiv.
 

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Why do you support risking the NATO, EU stability, nuclear war, and more civilians casualties to fight in Ukraine?

There are reports of American troops sitting at the polish border training Ukrainians daily to fight. To fight armed with? With weapons that the alliance is giving, for free, on a daily basis.

not enough.

Ok, then the other option, if you don't like what NATO is doing, is to go fight. I heard from a friend of mine that lives in Algeria (yah I have friends from everywhere) that the Ukrainians were calling regular Algerian homes asking for volunteers to fight in the foreign guard. The website is user-friendly too.

Don't sign up, it looks cool only from the front of the computer. War is cruel.
I heard?

A friend told me?

🙄
 

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1. Wait, you support NATO troops to take down Russian planes? You played too much Red Alert with all due respect.
2. Meaningful support is: weapons like candy via Poland, Slovakia, and Romania for free, intelligence sharing in real-time, humanitarian help, refugee assistance from every European country (with the risk of populism at hand). How about the Turkish drones? How about American trainers working day and night to train the Ukrainian fighters.
3. You don't want nuclear war. Then what is wrong with economic sanctions which at times can be worst than war itself? Add that to the list that Europe and NATO did for Zelensky.

I am kind of getting tired of this lack of gratitude that is pushed by the Ukrainians getting westerns to doubt their institutions that are working daily to support their country.
Maybe English isn't your first language but what I said was that if Russia chose to attack our aircraft that were protecting the supply corridors I'd have no problem taking them out. Not going after Russia but defending from Russian attacks.
 
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