SouthernDemocrat said:
Dixiecrats were Conservative Democrats.
Not exactly but are you admiting they were Democrats? Civil Rights was not a conservative/liberal issue it was a segregationist/desegregationist issue. Most Southern Democrats were populist they believed such things as segregation, unions, high taxes on the wealthy and government programs for the "little guy".
Civil Rights is a Liberal Ideal.
No it wasn't the sole poccession of the liberals.
Of the 10 Republican ........................
The history shows that since 1933 Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.
http://www.congresslink.org/civil/essay.html
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1982/3/82.03.04.x.html
So, we can conclude that while the Civil Rights Act enjoyed little support among Southern Democrats, it enjoyed absolutely NO Support Among Southern Republicans.
Since I don't know the source of you information no I can't conclude that but the glaring question is why are you limiting your attempted rebuttle to just SOUTHERN politicians. Were you not aware that the Civil Rights legislations was voted on by ALL congressmen?
Here from PBS
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_democratic.html
The Democratic Party identified itself as the "white man's party" and demonized the Republican Party as being "Negro dominated," even though whites were in control. Determined to re-capture the South, Southern Democrats "redeemed" state after state -- sometimes peacefully, other times by fraud and violence. By 1877, when Reconstruction was officially over, the Democratic Party controlled every Southern state.
"The South remained a one-party region until the Civil Rights movement began in the 1960s.
Northern Democrats, most of whom had prejudicial attitudes towards blacks, offered no challenge to the discriminatory policies of the Southern Democrats."
"When the House passed a federal anti-lynching bill several times in the 1930s, Southern senators filibustered it to death. "
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We can also conclude that while the Civil Rights Act enjoyed strong support among Northern Republicans, it enjoyed even Stronger Support Among Northern Democrats.
But more so by Republicans than Democrats. See my figures above.
"Remember that the Republicans were the minority party at the time.
Nonetheless, H.R.7152 passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964. Of the 420
members who voted, 290 supported the civil rights bill and 130
opposed it.
Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it
152-96. Republicans supported it in higher proportions than
Democrats. Even though those Democrats were Southern
segregationists, without Republicans the bill would have failed.
Republicans were the other much-needed leg of the Civil Rights Act
of 1964."
Republicans and Civil Rights
Diane Alden
Saturday, Dec. 14, 2002
Moreover, President Johnson, a liberal Democrat, backed Civil Rights legislation knowing that it would loose the Democrats the South.
And thanked Republicans when the Democrat filibusters were finally quashed. But let's not forget that before Johnson was even elected as VP it was a Republican judge who ruled to end segregated public schools in Brown and it was a Republican President who order federal troops to enforce it and it was a Democrat Governor who stood in the way and it was a Democrat mayor who stood it the way.
Barry Goldwater, a Republican (very conservative at the time, would be a moderate Republican today), lost in a landslide, yet won the South because of his stern opposition to Federal Civil Rights legislation.
He was the first elected executive to desegrated a government military oganization when as Governor of Arizona order the Arizona National Guard to desegregate all it's units. BEFORE Truman did so for the federal military and before any other state Govenor. His opposition to the Civil Rights legislation was because of it's implimentation and fear of quota's not that he was a segregationist like alot of Democrats were and he later said it was a mistake.
Ronald Reagan, the Republican Jesus, ........................
If you want to cherry pick out individuals we can do that and I will bury you, but we are talking about the party's overall records. And it is clear the Republicans voted in higher percentages than Democrats FOR the Civil Rights bills and it is historical record that the Democrats filibustered them ande without the overwhelming support of Republians the Democrats would have been successful in defeating them as they had done twice before.
And as Larry Elder pointed out
Democrats, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act. This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.
..............blacks founded the Texas Republican Party? On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.
................In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.
....................Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.
....................In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.
....................When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.
Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.
..................Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.
What about the reviled, allegedly anti-black, Republican "Southern strategy"? Pat Buchanan, writing for Richard Nixon (who became the Republican Party candidate two years later) coined the term "Southern strategy." They expected the "strategy" to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats. "We would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states' rights, human rights, small government, and a strong national defense," said Buchanan, "and leave it to the 'party of [Democratic Georgia Gov. Lester] Maddox, [1966 Democratic challenger against Spiro Agnew for Maryland governor George] Mahoney, and [Democratic Alabama Gov. George] Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.'" And President Richard Nixon, Republican, implemented the first federal affirmative action (race-based preference) laws with goals and timetables.
Nov 17, 2005
by Larry Elder
OBVIOUSLY this was her self-serving way of reassuring blacks that she still sees them as victims and that the white man was the source of their problems.
