Sex scandals are BS if sex is consentual.

[wbcoleman]

Nothing. He is a liberal.

Yes, and a moral hypocrite. He was chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, remember? He wrote the tax laws that he apparently felt should be applied to everyone else, just not to him. But, you're right, he's a liberal, so it must be OK!

 

[wbcoleman]

both had very flawed characters ... they are perfect examples of untrustworthy individuals.

Did we ever figure out whether the Clintons paid their taxes?

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Did we ever figure out whether the Clintons paid their taxes?

That might depend on what your definition of income is is...

 

[wbcoleman]

Character does not mean smart. Some of the dumbest people I have ever met are the most moral. We are not electing a Pope here but someone who can do the freaking job. Screw morality. Morality is a matter of opinion. In my opinion the only immoralty that is bad is the kind that hurts others like stealing,murder,rape or molestation. You are a libertarian. I though libertarians did not care about grey area morality. I guess you are just another moralistic conservative.

See, the people we are talking about are running for public office. Nobody would care about Weiner's perversions except that he was a Congressman, and now he's attempting to be elected Mayor of New York. He wants legal authority over other human beings. When you want that, then your personal morality becomes an issue. Hey, using your criteria, Nixon was a skilled President and he should never have been run out of office, right?

 

[wbcoleman]

I can't speak for all Libertarians.. there are too many differing positions within this camp of ours.

I believe in to each their own, I believe in legalizing weed ( not "drugs" in general), I certainly believe in minding your own business ( government refuses to mind it's own business, as do you "liberals" ( you're a socialist, not a liberal..socialists are illiberal.))

I know many conservatives who share those beliefs with me.. and I know many a liberal who believes otherwise.

none of those beliefs preclude me from believing a lair/cheat is a bad person.. none of those beliefs will magically make me support dishonesty, disloyalty, or anything of the sort.

As some sort of libertarian, I think there's lots of room for people to be pervs and creeps, but I sure as hell don't want to vote pervs and creeps into public office.

 

[DoubleSlit]

Seriously. extramarital sex is one thing, but Weiner's antics are insane!

Would you change your mind if you knew that his wife knew about and approved of his actions? (Note: I have no information that what I have suggested is true, is simply a what if question.)

 

[wbcoleman]

Would you change your mind if you knew that his wife knew about and approved of his actions? (Note: I have no information that what I have suggested is true, is simply a what if question.)

I have zero interest in his wife's opinion, unless she is running for public office, at which point her opinions become relevant. The fact that Huma enables Weiner's creepy behavior is creepy, too, but her business. On the other hand, when Hillary decided to go into elective politics herself, her decades-long enabling of her husband's sociopathic behavior became very relevant to her own fitness for public office.