Sex scandals are BS if sex is consentual.

[ARealConservative]

People don't know what arrangements politicians make with their spouses, so even an extra-marital relationship is nobody's business but the wife's.

so it is your business to decide what should matter to me?

 

[Hard Truth]

so it is your business to decide what should matter to me?

No, it is the business of the people involved. If they want to make their issues public, they can do so. If they want to keep it private, no one has the right to stick their nose into their private business. Only you can decide what matters to you, but you don't have a right to investigate people's private lives.

 

[ARealConservative]

No, it is the business of the people involved. If they want to make their issues public, they can do so. If they want to keep it private, no one has the right to stick their nose into their private business. Only you can decide what matters to you, but you don't have a right to investigate people's private lives.

I am involved. I agreed to grant privileges to people that made certain commitments. Weiner claimed to agree with that social contract at some point.

 

[OscarB63]

These people where all family values preachers so they where all hypocrites. Liberals never preach morality BS. Newt had the nerve to bash Bill C for the same thing he did.

I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow

 

[Hard Truth]

I am involved. I agreed to grant privileges to people that made certain commitments. Weiner claimed to agree with that social contract at some point.

Are you saying that you think that everyone holding public office or other significant position in the government is required to allow the public to be informed and involved in intimate details of their sex and family life?

That seems to be the position of the media and most people. I disagree. I think that is a major reason why we have a lack of good people in politics and top government positions. Normal people are not willing to let others be informed and involved in intimate details of their sex and family life. That is why we have so many twisted and repressed people in power. That's dangerous because it affects their mental health and judgment.

 

[jaeger19]

I don't think it was inappropriate. The youg lady wanted sex and she got it. What a waiste of a good gigar. Stop already with this moralistic BS.

Well, I guess if you think sexual harassment is just "moralistic BS"...

For one.. I see you failed to acknowledge that Clinton was asked about Monica as a result of a sexual harassment suit brought by a former employee. It was not some "moralistic BS" that prompted the question.

Secondly.. it as inappropriate.

Tell me.. if I find out that one of my regional managers is having sexual relations with an INTERN,, AT WORK, ON COMPANY TIME, in MY OFFICE and the woman in question is his daughters age...

Do you really think I should just say "well, the girl wanted it and so she got it"?


I know dang well, that if my business every had that happen and I turned a blind eye to it.. and told the press.. "She got what she wanted",,, that a whole bunch of democrats would be tarring and feathering my office buildings, protesting, and there would be civil suits galore

And you my friend would probably be leading the charge (unless I was a democrat President)

 

[Hijinx]

It's not the sex I have an issue with it's the lying aspect of it. If he's willing to cheat and lie on/to his wife then what isn't he willing to do? If he's willing to lie to his own wife about that, what about is he willing to lie to us about?

Of course this doesn't necessarily effect his politics, but it effects his credibility and that's what voters look for in candidates. If you can't trust him, why vote for him? He could have come clean immediately but made the conscious decision not to. This article discusses the same subject: Anthony Weiner: If He

That's the way I see it at least.

 

[James D Hill]

It's not the sex I have an issue with it's the lying aspect of it. If he's willing to cheat and lie on/to his wife then what isn't he willing to do? If he's willing to lie to his own wife about that, what about is he willing to lie to us about?

Of course this doesn't necessarily effect his politics, but it effects his credibility and that's what voters look for in candidates. If you can't trust him, why vote for him? He could have come clean immediately but made the conscious decision not to. This article discusses the same subject: Anthony Weiner: If He

That's the way I see it at least.

When you ask a married man if he is screwing around and it will always be no. What do you expect? The way Americans freak out about sex is it any wonder people lie? It is just not wort feeding the self righteous freaks and creating a scandal when their should not be.

 

[James D Hill]

Well, I guess if you think sexual harassment is just "moralistic BS"...

For one.. I see you failed to acknowledge that Clinton was asked about Monica as a result of a sexual harassment suit brought by a former employee. It was not some "moralistic BS" that prompted the question.

Secondly.. it as inappropriate.

Tell me.. if I find out that one of my regional managers is having sexual relations with an INTERN,, AT WORK, ON COMPANY TIME, in MY OFFICE and the woman in question is his daughters age...

Do you really think I should just say "well, the girl wanted it and so she got it"?


I know dang well, that if my business every had that happen and I turned a blind eye to it.. and told the press.. "She got what she wanted",,, that a whole bunch of democrats would be tarring and feathering my office buildings, protesting, and there would be civil suits galore

And you my friend would probably be leading the charge (unless I was a democrat President)

As long as they both get off who cares? Now that mayor of SD forced himself on others and that is wrong but if they want to then the more power to them. Screw morality.Al morality does is keep you from getting some.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Who care who has sex with who? If Wiener wants to show his junk all over the web who cares? If Bill Clinton has sex with a willing 21 year old who cares other than Hillary? The only time I care is if the sex is aganst someone elses will or if the politition is a family values conservatives who screams out against sin while engaging in it. I don't care if they join in on a Mongoliam cluster **** as long as they don't engage in hypocricy. It was funny many of those self righteous GOP guys who tried to fry Bill Clinton engaged in the same thing like good pld Newt the king of hypocrites.

I'll let your wife know you're down with it now.

 

[James D Hill]

broken promises mean nothing to the democrat that started this thread?

That is betwwen a man and his wife. Nothing more. If they are cool with it then Mongolian cluster **** it is.

 

[Thrilla]

Who care who has sex with who? If Wiener wants to show his junk all over the web who cares? If Bill Clinton has sex with a willing 21 year old who cares other than Hillary? The only time I care is if the sex is aganst someone elses will or if the politition is a family values conservatives who screams out against sin while engaging in it. I don't care if they join in on a Mongoliam cluster **** as long as they don't engage in hypocricy. It was funny many of those self righteous GOP guys who tried to fry Bill Clinton engaged in the same thing like good pld Newt the king of hypocrites.

why do you care if they are hypocrites?..what does their hypocrisy have to do with you?


I think it's hilarious that you make the choice to ignore glaring character flaws like dishonesty, disloyalty, and betrayal... but lo and behold, you have a problem with hypocrisy.( but only when it's Republicans)

for what it's worth, reasonable people have an aversion to disloyalty, dishonesty, and betrayal... and if you can do these things to the person you have vowed to be faithful to, you can work these character flaws to death when it comes to people you don't know or care about ( the electorate/consituents)

but really, don't ever whine or complain about anyone being dishonest ever again... you'll be what you hate most.. a hypocrite.

 

[Thrilla]

When you ask a married man if he is screwing around and it will always be no. What do you expect? The way Americans freak out about sex is it any wonder people lie? It is just not wort feeding the self righteous freaks and creating a scandal when their should not be.

if sex outside the marriage is no big deal and should be ignored, why do men lie about it?

what reason is there to lie if it's no big deal?

 

[James D Hill]

if sex outside the marriage is no big deal and should be ignored, why do men lie about it?

what reason is there to lie if it's no big deal?

Who want to feed the self righteous firestorm. We all know Americans are freaks about sex. They can watch Clint Eastwood kill 20 people and not even blink but if some hot chick shows off her vaginia they all freak out and cover the kids eyes. It is freaking stupid and you know it. I would rather my kids make porn when they grow up than killing people.

 

[James D Hill]

why do you care if they are hypocrites?..what does their hypocrisy have to do with you?


I think it's hilarious that you make the choice to ignore glaring character flaws like dishonesty, disloyalty, and betrayal... but lo and behold, you have a problem with hypocrisy.( but only when it's Republicans)

for what it's worth, reasonable people have an aversion to disloyalty, dishonesty, and betrayal... and if you can do these things to the person you have vowed to be faithful to, you can work these character flaws to death when it comes to people you don't know or care about ( the electorate/consituents)

but really, don't ever whine or complain about anyone being dishonest ever again... you'll be what you hate most.. a hypocrite.

The only time sin is bad is when it hurts others. I do not see who screwing a hot chick hurts anybody other than your wife.

 

[Thrilla]

The only time sin is bad is when it hurts others. I do not see who screwing a hot chick hurts anybody other than your wife.

you can't see how possessing a horrible character flaw would be bad for a person who is elected to govern us?

why do you prefer people with bad characters to govern us?

 

[Thrilla]

Who want to feed the self righteous firestorm. We all know Americans are freaks about sex. They can watch Clint Eastwood kill 20 people and not even blink but if some hot chick shows off her vaginia they all freak out and cover the kids eyes. It is freaking stupid and you know it. I would rather my kids make porn when they grow up than killing people.

ahhh, so am I to assume you masturbate or have sex in front of your children?



edit to add: .. why didn't you answer my question when you responded?... your response had absolutely nothing to do with my questions.

 

[fmw]

The only time sin is bad is when it hurts others. I do not see who screwing a hot chick hurts anybody other than your wife.

Well now there is a well thought out comment that could be sage advice for future generations.

 

[paddymcdougall]

when it's stupidity - Weiner lost one job for sending explicit photos, but he was stupid enough to do it again - or hypocrisy - politicians trolling for gay sex while voting against gay rights - or abuse of power - Who was the guy who paid off the husband of the aide with whom he was having an affair? - then it's our business.

Weiner sending pics to someone who is over 21 is totally legal. In 20 years, I bet if a politician did that no one would care. Right now, it's a problem for the voters; and because he didn't learn the last time he did it, he's shown he's too stupid to be in office.

Spitzer - paying prostitutes for sex while in his "day job" cracking down on prostitution -major hypocrisy.

If it stays between them, the spouse, the love object - none of our business. But hypocrisy, stupidity, abuse of power IS our business. We may decide we're ok with it - Mark Sanford just got voted back in office; what he did was not illegal or abuse of power, although lying about his location is somewhat dubious given he was governor... but that's for the voters to decide. Did he deserve publicity? Yeah, governor of a state should not just disappear. If he had never done that, was it any of our business? probably not.

 

[James D Hill]

Well now there is a well thought out comment that could be sage advice for future generations.

That is why I said it. Sex is great and should not be so freaking taboo. Yes if you want to have fun you should not get married but if it is a marriage that is for profit and gain and not for love then why not. I don't think Bill and Hillary have a relationship that is based on love and romance anymore. It is for power and gain.

 

[James D Hill]

ahhh, so am I to assume you masturbate or have sex in front of your children?



edit to add: .. why didn't you answer my question when you responded?... your response had absolutely nothing to do with my questions.

No because that would screw up the children. For them to see nudity or sex in a movie can't be any woprse that watching some action hero blast away 30 bad guys. The reason a married man would lie is to protect him family from the self righteous freaks who would blow it out of proportion and feed your enemies with something that should be a private matter. does that answer your queston? Getting your wick wet is a private matter.

 

[wbcoleman]

Who care who has sex with who? If Wiener wants to show his junk all over the web who cares? If Bill Clinton has sex with a willing 21 year old who cares other than Hillary? The only time I care is if the sex is aganst someone elses will or if the politition is a family values conservatives who screams out against sin while engaging in it. I don't care if they join in on a Mongoliam cluster **** as long as they don't engage in hypocricy. It was funny many of those self righteous GOP guys who tried to fry Bill Clinton engaged in the same thing like good pld Newt the king of hypocrites.

You really think that Weiner is emotionally mature enough to hold an executive office? ANY executive office?

 

[James D Hill]

why do you care if they are hypocrites?..what does their hypocrisy have to do with you?


I think it's hilarious that you make the choice to ignore glaring character flaws like dishonesty, disloyalty, and betrayal... but lo and behold, you have a problem with hypocrisy.( but only when it's Republicans)

for what it's worth, reasonable people have an aversion to disloyalty, dishonesty, and betrayal... and if you can do these things to the person you have vowed to be faithful to, you can work these character flaws to death when it comes to people you don't know or care about ( the electorate/consituents)

but really, don't ever whine or complain about anyone being dishonest ever again... you'll be what you hate most.. a hypocrite.

We are not electing a pope here. You are a libertarian so you of all people should know your sex life and your job are two differant things. JFK was a great president who screwed everything that moved so who cares?

 

[James D Hill]

You really think that Weiner is emotionally mature enough to hold an executive office? ANY executive office?

You may have a point there my friend. Having sex with a hot babe is one thing but showing your junk all over the web is a bit teen like for sure but at least he did not screw around on his wife who I would like to have sex with.

 

[wbcoleman]

You may have a point there my friend. Having sex with a hot babe is one thing but showing your junk all over the web is a bit teen like for sure but at least he did not screw around on his wife who I would like to have sex with.

Seriously. extramarital sex is one thing, but Weiner's antics are insane!