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...Greatest Threat To 2nd Amendment 'Since Founding Of Republic'...

Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would become nearly extinct if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency.

Sessions told "Fox News Sunday" that "Hillary Clinton is the most anti-Second Amendment president perhaps we've ever had" and cautioned voters to consider the damage to gun rights her presidency would cause.
Sessions warns of historic Clinton attack on gun rights | Washington Examiner
 

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...Greatest Threat To 2nd Amendment 'Since Founding Of Republic'...

Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would become nearly extinct if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency.

Sessions told "Fox News Sunday" that "Hillary Clinton is the most anti-Second Amendment president perhaps we've ever had" and cautioned voters to consider the damage to gun rights her presidency would cause.
Sessions warns of historic Clinton attack on gun rights | Washington Examiner

Yeah, yeah. That's the currency of the Right: fear. Fear, brought to you by the same fine folks who brought you negrophobia, Islamophobia, xenophobia, and homophobia.
 

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Yeah, yeah. That's the currency of the Right: fear. Fear, brought to you by the same fine folks who brought you negrophobia, Islamophobia, xenophobia, and homophobia.

Hillary is a lying, corrupt bitch, who will gut the 2nd Amendment with Exec orders. She will attempt to start a registration process. She'll probably leak more secrets like her husband did and when she lied about her email server; claiming nothing classified was on it.
 

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...Greatest Threat To 2nd Amendment 'Since Founding Of Republic'...

Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would become nearly extinct if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency.

Sessions told "Fox News Sunday" that "Hillary Clinton is the most anti-Second Amendment president perhaps we've ever had" and cautioned voters to consider the damage to gun rights her presidency would cause.
Sessions warns of historic Clinton attack on gun rights | Washington Examiner

Jeff Sessions also:

Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

and yet:
Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

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Obviously, Sessions is in favor of teen pregnancy, and also in favor of fanning the flames of paranoia over the Second Amendment.

On what does he base his statement about Clinton and the Second Amendment?
 

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Hillary went too far when she challenged the 2nd Amendment. She should have left that third rail alone.
 

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Jeff Sessions is a dip****.
 

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...Greatest Threat To 2nd Amendment 'Since Founding Of Republic'...

Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would become nearly extinct if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency.

Sessions told "Fox News Sunday" that "Hillary Clinton is the most anti-Second Amendment president perhaps we've ever had" and cautioned voters to consider the damage to gun rights her presidency would cause.
Sessions warns of historic Clinton attack on gun rights | Washington Examiner

Throwing red meat dripping with bloody juices is going to be a big part of this election. It is obvious a big tactic will be to take the trip down Paranoia Place even further than the gun lobby has done over the past two decades. Scaring the hell out of gun owners - at least right wing gun owners - will and is a major part of the Trump campaign.

Shame on them.
 

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I swear, it's like the old Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown thing.
Democrat candidate=NRA speeches that sound like a broken record:

"He/she's coming to TAKE YER GUNZ!!!!!!!!"

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I'm still waiting for the promised "O'bummer'z gawn come fer yer gunz!" moment to happen. :lamo
These people don't feel the least bit of embarrassment, do they?
 

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I swear, it's like the old Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown thing.
Democrat candidate=NRA speeches that sound like a broken record:

"He/she's coming to TAKE YER GUNZ!!!!!!!!"

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I heard this from people like you in England in the Mid 1990s. Australia too. NY and California. Its easy to pretend that no one wants to ban guns. Those who do most of this pretense are the very people who want to confiscate or ban guns.
 

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I'm still waiting for the promised "O'bummer'z gawn come fer yer gunz!" moment to happen. :lamo
These people don't feel the least bit of embarrassment, do they?

You apparently are unable to understand the difference between desire and reality. Obama doesn't have the political power to ban or confiscate guns now. So he does what he can including the appointment of two gun banners on the USSC and nominating another one.
 

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Hillary is a lying, corrupt bitch, who will gut the 2nd Amendment with Exec orders. She will attempt to start a registration process. She'll probably leak more secrets like her husband did and when she lied about her email server; claiming nothing classified was on it.

You left out the part where she's going to have mandatory registration of all conservatives, where she'll not only take all your 300 million guns away, but she'll even force you to take transgender bathroom etiquette indoctrination courses, have your kids take gay sex ed in school, change the wording on our coins to "In Allah we trust", change our military's uniforms to rainbow camouflage, change the NFL to touch football (but the touching must only be in private places to show support for Gay Pride), and open the Miss America pageant to cross-dressers and transgenders (who will receive extra points for affirmative action)!

And then on her second day in office....
 

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Every single election cycle....every single time....it's the same pathetic crap over and over and over again...

Ya know, for such well armed people, many of you are the biggest damned scaredy-cats I've ever seen.

Christ man....grow a pair.
 

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Every single election cycle....every single time....it's the same pathetic crap over and over and over again...

Ya know, for such well armed people, many of you are the biggest damned scaredy-cats I've ever seen.

Christ man....grow a pair.

I wonder if you say the same thing about say gay rights, "transgendered rights" and other court created "rights" that we hear are under attack if the GOP wins
 

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Jeff Sessions also:

and yet:


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Obviously, Sessions is in favor of teen pregnancy, and also in favor of fanning the flames of paranoia over the Second Amendment.

On what does he base his statement about Clinton and the Second Amendment?

Her very own words, many times over. I agree with everything that Sessions states and he is not for teen pregnancy, just for the stopping the murder of infants in the womb.


Throwing red meat dripping with bloody juices is going to be a big part of this election. It is obvious a big tactic will be to take the trip down Paranoia Place even further than the gun lobby has done over the past two decades. Scaring the hell out of gun owners - at least right wing gun owners - will and is a major part of the Trump campaign.

Shame on them.

I've been a Life Member since 1976.....and the NRA has not scared me at all....what absolute Horse****!


I'm still waiting for the promised "O'bummer'z gawn come fer yer gunz!" moment to happen. :lamo
These people don't feel the least bit of embarrassment, do they?

obama has tried several times over the last 7 years to restrict guns and ban accessories. He even authorized Fast and Furious and it backfired on him and that other crooked putz...Holder!
The only embarrassment that I see are ............liberals swallowing......instead of spitting.
 

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You apparently are unable to understand the difference between desire and reality. Obama doesn't have the political power to ban or confiscate guns now. So he does what he can including the appointment of two gun banners on the USSC and nominating another one.

Exactly right.......and no, these meadow muffins on here, don't understand ****!

You left out the part where she's going to have mandatory registration of all conservatives, where she'll not only take all your 300 million guns away, but she'll even force you to take transgender bathroom etiquette indoctrination courses, have your kids take gay sex ed in school, change the wording on our coins to "In Allah we trust", change our military's uniforms to rainbow camouflage, change the NFL to touch football (but the touching must only be in private places to show support for Gay Pride), and open the Miss America pageant to cross-dressers and transgenders (who will receive extra points for affirmative action)!

And then on her second day in office....

She would if she could. She is the biggest, nastiest, crookedest bitch, who ever sought political office! And you would support her....pathetic.:roll:

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Every single election cycle....every single time....it's the same pathetic crap over and over and over again...

Ya know, for such well armed people, many of you are the biggest damned scaredy-cats I've ever seen.

Christ man....grow a pair.

Scared of what? Are you having those dreams.....again?

I wonder if you say the same thing about say gay rights, "transgendered rights" and other court created "rights" that we hear are under attack if the GOP wins

Great point. The little whiners will be all in a tizzy over that. We need to really clean up America ......and ban gays!
 

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You guys do realize the President is not a King right? There is a system of checks and balances to ensure the President doesn't do things like take your guns. The Supreme Court however can, as the Second Amendment establishes the right to form a militia. And a Supreme Court decision grants gun ownership rights to private citizens. So what it really comes down to for gun rights in America. Accept Obama's Supreme Court Nominee, who is pretty middle of the aisle, Or risk Hillary's Appointee's... Even if Trump wins, I believe he will not, he will likely appoint his sister or something. Who I believe is liberal. Because do not fool yourselves. Trump is not all that Conservative. He is putting on a show, pandering to the people he said he'd pander to if he ever ran. He's a wildcard, who will say anything to get ahead.

So I would say the biggest threat to Gun Ownership Rights, right now, is the United States Congress holding up the Obama nomination. The Biggest threat to the Second Amendment is probably local police stations. They tend to break up militia's as violent terrorist groups. Just saying.
 

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You guys do realize the President is not a King right? There is a system of checks and balances to ensure the President doesn't do things like take your guns. The Supreme Court however can, as the Second Amendment establishes the right to form a militia. And a Supreme Court decision grants gun ownership rights to private citizens. So what it really comes down to for gun rights in America. Accept Obama's Supreme Court Nominee, who is pretty middle of the aisle, Or risk Hillary's Appointee's... Even if Trump wins, I believe he will not, he will likely appoint his sister or something. Who I believe is liberal. Because do not fool yourselves. Trump is not all that Conservative. He is putting on a show, pandering to the people he said he'd pander to if he ever ran. He's a wildcard, who will say anything to get ahead.

So I would say the biggest threat to Gun Ownership Rights, right now, is the United States Congress holding up the Obama nomination. The Biggest threat to the Second Amendment is probably local police stations. They tend to break up militia's as violent terrorist groups. Just saying.

Lot of stupidity in that debut on this topic. the bit about the local police gains about a 9.5 on the completely idiotic post scale. Garland is an anti gun judge whose background suggests he would be another Breyer. I think he should be given a hearing and eviscerated in hearings about his anti gun proclivities and then voted down. Not giving him a hearing is moronic IMHO
 

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Yeah, yeah. That's the currency of the Right: fear. Fear, brought to you by the same fine folks who brought you negrophobia, Islamophobia, xenophobia, and homophobia.

Isn't Hillary hawking ever further firearms restrictions and regulations based on fear and fear mongering as well?
 

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Isn't Hillary hawking ever further firearms restrictions and regulations based on fear and fear mongering as well?

Well, seeing as how we have 10K or so actually shot dead each year in America, and many tens of thousands more wounded (and whose care is usually at taxpayer cost - and many of whom can no longer work)...NO, additional restrictions and regulations are NOT based on "fear mongering" - they're based on REALITY...because yes, America IS by far the most violent first-world nation...

...and needlessly so, because so many of our citizens have somehow got it in their heads that lots more guns somehow equals a more peaceful society.
 

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Her very own words, many times over. I agree with everything that Sessions states and he is not for teen pregnancy, just for the stopping the murder of infants in the womb.




I've been a Life Member since 1976.....and the NRA has not scared me at all....what absolute Horse****!




obama has tried several times over the last 7 years to restrict guns and ban accessories. He even authorized Fast and Furious and it backfired on him and that other crooked putz...Holder!
The only embarrassment that I see are ............liberals swallowing......instead of spitting.

The results of stopping comprehensive sex education, limiting contraceptives, and outlawing abortion is more teenage girls giving birth. That may not be his intention, but that's the result, as shown over and over.

And, I've yet to hear Hillary, or anyone else for that matter, advocate overturning the Second Amendment. I have heard people ranging from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton advocate such things as outlawing assault rifles. Could that be what is being interpreted as "overturning the Second Amendment"?
 

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The results of stopping comprehensive sex education, limiting contraceptives, and outlawing abortion is more teenage girls giving birth. That may not be his intention, but that's the result, as shown over and over.

And, I've yet to hear Hillary, or anyone else for that matter, advocate overturning the Second Amendment. I have heard people ranging from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton advocate such things as outlawing assault rifles. Could that be what is being interpreted as "overturning the Second Amendment"?

how can the second amendment be interpreted to allow bans on commonly owned civilian firearms?
 

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I'm not sure.
We can't ask Reagan any longer.
Maybe we should ask Trump.

as a libertarian do you support bans on semi auto rifles

do you think the Second amendment stops limiting government action based on how many bullets a magazine can hold ?
 

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Look, guns aren't going anywhere.
There's three hundred MILLION of them in private hands, thus confiscation is IMPOSSIBLE.
Ammo isn't going anywhere either, because too many people would be able to make their own ANYWAY.
Laws will not be passed to criminalize gun ownership either, because believe it or not, too many liberals ALSO have guns.
And even if, in some Bizarro worst case scenario, any of the above WERE to even partially see the light of day, we're living in the 21st century now, where eleven year old kids living in the FARC jungles are now able to MAKE you a very sophisticated firearm out of scrap metal in less than a day from scratch, we also have the internet and therefore anyone with a basic set of machinist skills can whip you up whatever you want.
Gun craftsmanship isn't brain surgery.
If you can make your own car parts, you can make guns.
And I know that YOU know that there are plenty of people who already DO know how.
The Israelis were making guns from scratch in underground bunkers at the outset of the 1948 war.

Guns are here to stay in America, and you're getting your panties all in a wad for nothing, and you're actually making the issue worse, and inspiring hordes of lunatics in the process, and said lunatics obviously have NO business owning a firearm, because they are lunatics.

Gun ownership is so hardwired into the American culture that if we simply work the problem and calm down the violence culture, it will go back to being the quiet, seldom discussed but well loved part of the American cultural fabric it used to be.
I mean, what I am getting at is, gun culture in this country didn't use to mean gangs, radical religious fanatics, militia boys pretending to operate their own private armies, and wannabe self appointed neighborhood enforcers acting under color of authority.
It used to be that guy down the street with the pencil thin mustache who smoked cigars, drove a Studebaker Wagonnaire and liked hunting, it used to be the shopkeeper who didn't take any sh!t from the punks who thought they could rob his liquor store, it used to be the homeowner who kept one for family protection.
We're probably not going to return completely to those vacuum tube hallowed days but we can tamp all this nonsense down to a dull roar and make it acceptable once again if we work together.

Running around with your hair on fire and screaming about every presidential candidate being a gun grabber and then looking like an idiot when your paranoid fantasy doesn't come true is not helping the situation.
It just isn't.

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