Senator Hillary-a Jobs Loser

[Conservative]

Yeah, 25 years of hysterical GOP charges, none of which have stuck. I wonder why that is? Gosh, could it be that the charges are B.S. smears from a political party that has nothing to offer America except hate and fear? Ya think?

The power of the Press and the power of the political parties. There isn't an Average American Today that wouldn't be in jail for doing what Hillary did. Your loyalty to the D is staggering and misguided. How about taking the blinders off and tell us all why we should put Hillary in the WH? Is it her great successes in the positions held, great judgment, incredible morality?

 

[jpn]

The power of the Press and the power of the political parties. There isn't an Average American Today that wouldn't be in jail for doing what Hillary did. Your loyalty to the D is staggering and misguided. How about taking the blinders off and tell us all why we should put Hillary in the WH? Is it her great successes in the positions held, great judgment, incredible morality?

What Hillary did? What did she do? What, in your fevered imagination, did she do that was so clearly illegal but for some odd reason was not brought to justice for it? Please provide the precise incident and the law that was broken.

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[Conservative]

What Hillary did? What did she do? What, in your fevered imagination, did she do that was so clearly illegal but for some odd reason was not brought to justice for it? Please provide the precise incident and the law that was broken.

Waiting...

Do you have any clue as to her role as Secretary of State? How about her role as Senator from NY? Does any of the activities in the Clinton Foundation play any role in your decision making process? Selling access isn't a successful policy for the American people? Making millions on the public dole with little to show for it does what for the American people?

I doubt seriously that anything is going to change your mind as you cannot get past the D after her name. I got past the D years ago and will always vote for the more conservative of the candidates especially one with an actual positive record.

 

[jpn]

Do you have any clue as to her role as Secretary of State? How about her role as Senator from NY? Does any of the activities in the Clinton Foundation play any role in your decision making process? Selling access isn't a successful policy for the American people? Making millions on the public dole with little to show for it does what for the American people?

I doubt seriously that anything is going to change your mind as you cannot get past the D after her name. I got past the D years ago and will always vote for the more conservative of the candidates especially one with an actual positive record.

I asked you to identify what she did, precisely, that was "illegal." And you failed. Like I was sure that you would.

You conservatives have been tossing sh*t against the fan for 25 years, hoping something would stick. But as you can see, all it's done is soil the tossers.

Tosser.

Today?s Electoral College Map

 

[Gladiator]

Republicans in congress fail to fully fund research that will build jobs.


https://www.bio.org/articles/how-grow-jobs-through-biotech-industry-development-0

https://www.google.com/?#q=research+funding+to+grow+jobs

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[Conservative]

I asked you to identify what she did, precisely, that was "illegal." And you failed. Like I was sure that you would.

You conservatives have been tossing sh*t against the fan for 25 years, hoping something would stick. But as you can see, all it's done is soil the tossers.

Tosser.

Today?s Electoral College Map

Look, I get it, the lady has a D after her name and nothing sticks, whether it be Benghazi and the death of an Ambassador, the Arab Spring, the failure to deliver on her jobs bill for the state of NY, her lies in her speech. When you post a map like this you simply point out the ignorance of the American voter today like you who believes rhetoric and ignores substance.

is this really who you want in the WH?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BdNHf1g4ivA

What exactly does this person have to do before you realize you have been duped?

 

[Conservative]

Republicans in congress fail to fully fund research that will build jobs.


https://www.bio.org/articles/how-grow-jobs-through-biotech-industry-development-0

https://www.google.com/?#q=research+funding+to+grow+jobs

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So you think it is the Government's role to specifically build jobs? Wow, the indoctrination of the left is incredible.

 

[jpn]

What exactly does this person have to do before you realize you have been duped?

She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support a woman's right to choose.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really believe in human-caused global warming.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support increasing the minimum wage.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support the Affordable Care Act.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really early childhood education.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support investing in infrastructure, education and scientific research.

Do you really think I'm being duped in these issue areas?
She believes we should make voting easier, not harder.

 

[jpn]

So you think it is the Government's role to specifically build jobs? Wow, the indoctrination of the left is incredible.

I accept that the government can play a key role in stimulating slow economic growth.
But then, I haven't been indoctrinated to believe that delivering the mail is a Communist endeavor.

 

[Gladiator]

So you think it is the Government's role to specifically build jobs? Wow, the indoctrination of the left is incredible.

Not only to stimulate the economy to encourage job growth, but also to create make-work jobs to decrease unemployment.

The private sector has over-produced material wealth for the needs/desires of the truly working population. Because of automation and other efficiency factors, a shrinking part of the population is actually engaged in filling the material needs of the society.

"The labor force participation rate -- which measures both the employed and those actively looking for work -- has fallen 4.5 percentage points in the U.S. to 72.7% for those age 15 thru 64, according to a recent OECD report that looked at 38 developed countries. And the U.S. is one of only three nations on the list that's contracting.

This trend is emerging despite Europe's economic woes, which have returned to the spotlight amid Greece's troubles. Unemployment and economic malaise is widespread on the continent, with unemployment rates in the double digits in several countries, including France, Spain and Italy. "


Why America's workforce is shrinking and Europe's isn't - Jul. 15, 2015



http://cepr.net/documents/publications/structural-unemployment-2012-10.pdf






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[Gladiator]

So you think it is the Government's role to specifically build jobs? Wow, the indoctrination of the left is incredible.

The world is changing from requiring all people to work to meet the needs/desires of the society, to where only 75% of the people are needed to work to provide the needs of the society. In the future, the number of workers needed to fully meet our needs, may be down to 50%


What is the solution to actual over-production, structural unemployment?


Obama had been trying to stimulate jo growth in Green areas. There is little real demand for Green jobs. So Government has been imposing Global Warming alleviation as a value added segment of the economy, but this does not stimulate maximum job growth of private products to meet real consumer demand.


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[Gladiator]

So you think it is the Government's role to specifically build jobs? Wow, the indoctrination of the left is incredible.

https://palmm.digital.flvc.org/isla...tion_and_unemployment__a_plea_for_freedom.pdf


This is a 1940 book on the economics of overproduction. In the 1930's there were periods of recovery in which lay-offs occurred, due to the increase in stock piles of consumer goods.




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[Conservative]

Not only to stimulate the economy to encourage job growth, but also to create make-work jobs to decrease unemployment.

The private sector has over-produced material wealth for the needs/desires of the truly working population. Because of automation and other efficiency factors, a shrinking part of the population is actually engaged in filling the material needs of the society.

"The labor force participation rate -- which measures both the employed and those actively looking for work -- has fallen 4.5 percentage points in the U.S. to 72.7% for those age 15 thru 64, according to a recent OECD report that looked at 38 developed countries. And the U.S. is one of only three nations on the list that's contracting.

This trend is emerging despite Europe's economic woes, which have returned to the spotlight amid Greece's troubles. Unemployment and economic malaise is widespread on the continent, with unemployment rates in the double digits in several countries, including France, Spain and Italy. "


Why America's workforce is shrinking and Europe's isn't - Jul. 15, 2015



http://cepr.net/documents/publications/structural-unemployment-2012-10.pdf






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To stimulate the economy yes but spend it in the private sector not funding entitlement programs, paying off supporters. Obama's stimulus was a failure claiming it saved jobs. There is no verifiable source that captures saved jobs thus was a marketing term created by the left to hide that failure. Reagan stimulated jobs by putting his entire economic plan in the hands of the American people. The Recovery Act of 1981 was ALL TAX CUTS.

Now in this economy we have another problem, the left tells us that Obama brought us out of the recession and saved us from a Great Depression but the reality is we came out of the recession before his stimulus plan was spent and if the economy is so great NOW why do we need more govt. spending?

 

[Conservative]

The world is changing from requiring all people to work to meet the needs/desires of the society, to where only 75% of the people are needed to work to provide the needs of the society. In the future, the number of workers needed to fully meet our needs, may be down to 50%


What is the solution to actual over-production, structural unemployment?


Obama had been trying to stimulate jo growth in Green areas. There is little real demand for Green jobs. So Government has been imposing Global Warming alleviation as a value added segment of the economy, but this does not stimulate maximum job growth of private products to meet real consumer demand.


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Solyndra!! To increase demand you increase cash in the hands of the consumer

 

[Conservative]

She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support a woman's right to choose.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really believe in human-caused global warming.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support increasing the minimum wage.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support the Affordable Care Act.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really early childhood education.
She'd have to demonstrate that she doesn't really support investing in infrastructure, education and scientific research.

Do you really think I'm being duped in these issue areas?
She believes we should make voting easier, not harder.

OMG, an entitlement big govt. socialist liberal who expects the Govt. to provide for all that you want and personal responsibility doesn't exist. yes, my friend, you are truly duped. None of those are the role of the Federal Govt.

 

[Gladiator]

Solyndra!! To increase demand you increase cash in the hands of the consumer

That presumes that consumers don' have all they want,


http://www.debatepolitics.com/2016-...-return-yesterdays-jobs-2.html#post1066046658



This video predicts satisfaction, and dwindling private employment.

 

[Conservative]

That presumes that consumers don' have all they want,


http://www.debatepolitics.com/2016-...-return-yesterdays-jobs-2.html#post1066046658



This video predicts satisfaction, and dwindling private employment.

What the left wants to do is create more dependence and more personal wealth for themselves and that is what is happening today. The basic problem is understanding what the role of the Federal Govt. really is and isn't. WE have 50 state governments who spend money more wisely and are truly accountable to the electorate. It is the Federal Government's role to support that effort not hinder it by taking on more responsibility. The Federal Govt. green energy program was a waste of taxpayer dollars just like most federal programs.]

What you want to ignore is the responsibility of the individual to create the jobs of the future, not the Federal Govt. to fund those programs. Bill Gates started in his garage.

 

[jpn]

OMG, an entitlement big govt. socialist liberal who expects the Govt. to provide for all that you want and personal responsibility doesn't exist. yes, my friend, you are truly duped. None of those are the role of the Federal Govt.

Yeah, they are.

And I imagine that's really what is at the bottom of your hatred of Hillary Clinton. If she was all for slashing taxes on the rich and making abortion illegal again and believed that global warming was a hoax and that the universe was created 6,000 years ago last Thursday you'd be all for her. Right?

 

[Conservative]

Yeah, they are.

And I imagine that's really what is at the bottom of your hatred of Hillary Clinton. If she was all for slashing taxes on the rich and making abortion illegal again and believed that global warming was a hoax and that the universe was created 6,000 years ago last Thursday you'd be all for her. Right?

No, the bottomline line is the incompetence in Hillary Clinton, the millions she has made from her NON PROFIT foundation, her duping good people like you while ignoring her results.

In your world there is no such thing as personal responsibility coming from CHOICES you made. Is that how you were raised?

I don't like what Hillary Clinton represents, what she has done, how she has treated people, and her lack of leadership, executive, and management experience none of which you can refute. Anyone who supports Hillary is totally ignorant as to the responsibility of the Federal Govt. and the poor results she has generated. You deserve Hillary, the rest of the good people in this country don't

 

[VanceMack]

This is one of the reasons Trumps still in the race. Everything Hillary says is laced and polluted with hypocrisy. Whether or not you like his business practices you cant deny Trump is responsible for literally millions of peoples employment and careers over 4 decades, whereas Hillary has never run so much as a lemonade stand. Then you move on to womens issues and from a business perspective Trump has given more women opportunities for success than can be accurately counted. Hillary...not so much. And then if you want to start talking championing 'womens' issues, you cant get around the fact that Hillary's husband is an accused rapist, has been accused of sexual harassment, sexual assault, lying, exploiting women, and you cant ignore the fact that Hillary has spent her entire marriage trashing her husbands victims. As bad a candidate as Trump is, for Hillary to point those things out...well...that makes her look rather silly.

 

[jpn]

No, the bottomline line is the incompetence in Hillary Clinton, the millions she has made from her NON PROFIT foundation, her duping good people like you while ignoring her results.
In your world there is no such thing as personal responsibility coming from CHOICES you made. Is that how you were raised?
I don't like what Hillary Clinton represents, what she has done, how she has treated people, and her lack of leadership, executive, and management experience none of which you can refute. Anyone who supports Hillary is totally ignorant as to the responsibility of the Federal Govt. and the poor results she has generated. You deserve Hillary, the rest of the good people in this country don't

Don't worry your little head about how I was raised. One doesn't become a Navy Commander without some notion of personal responsibility. The tired conservative notion that building a network of support for the unfortunate robs our society of personal responsibility is just an excuse for being a bitter, selfish old fart.

 

[Conservative]

Don't worry your little head about how I was raised. One doesn't become a Navy Commander without some notion of personal responsibility. The tired conservative notion that building a network of support for the unfortunate robs our society of personal responsibility is just an excuse for being a bitter, selfish old fart.

Navy Commander, huh? My dad was at Pearl when it was bombed and my father in law was at Normandy and neither one of them supported the liberal ideology, All understood personal responsibility and that there are consequences for poor choices. I would have thought a Naval Commander would understand that. What I find disturbing is that you believe that is the Federal Responsibility and not the state and local responsibility. Anyone that points out the Federal Failures is bitter and selfish in the liberal world for all you do is promote spending IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION.

Yes, I am a bitter old fart because I am sick and tired o liberals like you throwing money at the problem and never solving it. It is liberal arrogance that believes you can spend the money wiser than other liberals before you. We have a 19.4 trillion dollar debt today with all that spending very little of it came from the defense of this nation so as a Naval Commander thank you for your service now take the GI Bill and learn American History about the role of the Federal Govt., the small central govt. promoted, and who actually pays for the poor and under privileged.

 

[jpn]

This is one of the reasons Trumps still in the race. Everything Hillary says is laced and polluted with hypocrisy. Whether or not you like his business practices you cant deny Trump is responsible for literally millions of peoples employment and careers over 4 decades, whereas Hillary has never run so much as a lemonade stand. Then you move on to womens issues and from a business perspective Trump has given more women opportunities for success than can be accurately counted. Hillary...not so much. And then if you want to start talking championing 'womens' issues, you cant get around the fact that Hillary's husband is an accused rapist, has been accused of sexual harassment, sexual assault, lying, exploiting women, and you cant ignore the fact that Hillary has spent her entire marriage trashing her husbands victims. As bad a candidate as Trump is, for Hillary to point those things out...well...that makes her look rather silly.

No, either you're for a woman's right to choose (a.k.a. a "Democrat") or you're for illegal back alley abortions (a.k.a. a "Republican.) And so on. I can't believe people like you honestly are just SO outraged at her supposedly awful personal behavior and so you're supporting...Donald Trump!
Trump, a serial liar and cheat hasn't created "literally millions of peoples' employment," by the way, although he stands accused of bilking dozens out of their hard-earned money, and will go to court this fall over just one of those many instances.
He's actually little more than an thief, protected by banks of lawyers: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
Here's a good example of how he treats employees: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/30/apnewsbreak-union-to-strike-against-trump-taj/

And say what you will about Hillary, but you don't see people in her own party characterizing her thus:

Former GOP Senator Marco Rubio: “fraud,” “con man,” “lunatic,” “the most vulgar person to ever aspire to the presidency”
GOP Senator Susan Collins: “contentious and bizarre”
GOP Senator Lindsey Graham: a “race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot”
Former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal: “a madman who must be stopped”
Former Texas Governor Rick Perry: a “barking carnival act.”
Republican Senator Mirk Kirk: “I think he’s too bigoted and racist”
Former GOP Senator Tom Coburn: “repulsive”

In the words of Mark Salter, the former chief of staff to Sen. John McCain and senior adviser to the McCain for President campaign,

"Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult, and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough."

New York Times: Mr. Trump bills his new casino, his third, as ''the eighth wonder of the world."
It filed for bankruptcy in 2009

 

[jpn]

Navy Commander, huh? My dad was at Pearl when it was bombed and my father in law was at Normandy and neither one of them supported the liberal ideology, All understood personal responsibility and that there are consequences for poor choices. I would have thought a Naval Commander would understand that. What I find disturbing is that you believe that is the Federal Responsibility and not the state and local responsibility. Anyone that points out the Federal Failures is bitter and selfish in the liberal world for all you do is promote spending IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION.

Yes, I am a bitter old fart because I am sick and tired o liberals like you throwing money at the problem and never solving it. It is liberal arrogance that believes you can spend the money wiser than other liberals before you. We have a 19.4 trillion dollar debt today with all that spending very little of it came from the defense of this nation so as a Naval Commander thank you for your service now take the GI Bill and learn American History about the role of the Federal Govt., the small central govt. promoted, and who actually pays for the poor and under privileged.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm way ahead of you. After getting out of active duty I obtains a masters degree in Political Science at the Univ. of Washington, assisted by something called the Veterans' Education Assistance Fund, a poor shadow of the post-WWII GI Bill or what's available for our vets now. But thanks for pointing out yet another great government program, the GI Bill, which helped tens of thousands of returning GIs get a college education.

Today the federal government continues to help people in ways states and local governments simply cannot or will not. For example, President Obama's Affordable Care Act is the only reason 20 million Americans now have health care. For example, thousands who suffer from diabetes are now receiving regular treatment for this awful disease. But this is only taking place in the states that accepted the expansion of Medicaid as a result of the ACA. It's an outstanding illustration of what we can do for our citizens when we choose to do so, and what happens to those where we don't.

Diabetes Cases Surge in States That Expanded Medicaid
A new study offers insight into how the Affordable Care Act has affected diagnoses of a prevalent chronic disease.

Let me help you out...there aren't more people with diabetes in the blue states. There are just people now getting treatment for it. Those people in the selfish red states? Out of luck.
My, how "Christian" of them...

 

[Conservative]

No, either you're for a woman's right to choose (a.k.a. a "Democrat") or you're for illegal back alley abortions (a.k.a. a "Republican.) And so on. I can't believe people like you honestly are just SO outraged at her supposedly awful personal behavior and so you're supporting...Donald Trump!
Trump, a serial liar and cheat hasn't created "literally millions of peoples' employment," by the way, although he stands accused of bilking dozens out of their hard-earned money, and will go to court this fall over just one of those many instances.
He's actually little more than an thief, protected by banks of lawyers: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
Here's a good example of how he treats employees: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/30/apnewsbreak-union-to-strike-against-trump-taj/

And say what you will about Hillary, but you don't see people in her own party characterizing her thus:

Former GOP Senator Marco Rubio: “fraud,” “con man,” “lunatic,” “the most vulgar person to ever aspire to the presidency”
GOP Senator Susan Collins: “contentious and bizarre”
GOP Senator Lindsey Graham: a “race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot”
Former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal: “a madman who must be stopped”
Former Texas Governor Rick Perry: a “barking carnival act.”
Republican Senator Mirk Kirk: “I think he’s too bigoted and racist”
Former GOP Senator Tom Coburn: “repulsive”

In the words of Mark Salter, the former chief of staff to Sen. John McCain and senior adviser to the McCain for President campaign,

New York Times: Mr. Trump bills his new casino, his third, as ''the eighth wonder of the world."
It filed for bankruptcy in 2009

What a bunch of bs, all about a woman's right to choose, how about a woman's responsible to have unprotected sex? Single issue voters like you simply have no place in the current world