Stinger said:
While I disagree with your framing of it are you suggesting it is the role of government to make sure wealth "migrates". How about insuring a safe and secure country where people can use thier talents and the opportunities the country presents to create wealth? Wealth is not a fixed amount, it's not a pie to be divided up. But what policies are you talking about?
Market economies should let the market dictate where money flows, but there are many examples of flawed market economics in the US. Big-Energy and Big-Pharma are the two biggest. For example: Why is it cheaper to buy US made drugs in Canada then in the US? Why is it that foreign/defense policy centers around energy resource security, and while the energy companies have record profits, the tax burden of fighting wars to secure energy is distributed across the entire economy. Why is there a SPR for crude but not for refined products?
The last answer is: because the market by big-energy has been rigged to encourage nervous markets to optimize income on gas.
While wealth is not a zero-sum game, government power is. And too much of it lies on K-street, and not enough in the people. That croonism is a problem in both parties, but the GOP has it way worse.
If the average American knew how laws and bills were made, and who drove policy for real, they would be outraged. How come some organizations hire two lobbists for each congressmen? Cash and carry government! This is not how a market economy is suppose to work!
Stinger said:
Isolated from what? Our "poor" are the "richest" poor in the world. They mostly have cars, if not two, they mostly live in air conditioned and centrally heated homes, they have plenty to eat, they have free medical care, they have free education. Spending on intitlements aimed at the poor have skyrocketed under Bush, so where exactly do you find the isolation?
They may be the richest poor, but they are isolated. Look at the way your cities are layed out. Usually, the poor area is consolidated in a few regions. By contrast, in Canada you go from rich to poor to rich area again in a few minutes of walking. After the video from Katrina, the isolation is obvious. Those people where left behind.
I forget where I read this, but think about it:
Someone is Baghdad can pick up a phone and have a bomb dropped on a building in minutes, while in New Orlean's my government could have delieverd water to those people from Canada than your own could. Those who did not have the resources to get out of town were left forgotton until the GOP realized that the press was actually on the case.
Stinger said:
Proved what? That if you don't take advantage of the educational opportunities in this country you will fail. That if you choose to have children out of wedlock you will fail and you set your children up for the same? That if you do not hold off from getting married until you are 20 that you mostly likely will fail? That if you engage in drug usage and criminal activity you will probably fail?
I guess I am not willing to make the assumption that all of those people were criminals, drug users, single moms, etc.
I don't have a car and I am neither of those things.
Stinger said:
What more should they do go down there and drag those people out of thier homes and into schools? Go down and sterilize all the black women?
Here is one: raise the minimum wage.
Shouldn't someone working an honest days work for 5 days a week, beable to afford to feed their kids, send them to school, provide healthcare?
Your comment suggests that black babies are the problem. I know better.
Stinger said:
And you don't have near the "minorities" we have here so you so maybe you don't think about them at all.
We have the roughly the same percentage of minorities as you. We just don't really think of it. We are all Canadian.
Stinger said:
Well there are lots of "specificly targetable demographic"'s so why does being one make you poor?
Well non-whites that have been in your country have been at a disadvantage since their rights have not developed on the same track. Some of your biggest blue chips in the Dow have made money of slave labor. Once slavory was over, those freed slaves had to start competing with nothing against people who had resource they made of those very slaves. But that is way to abstract for most people to get their heads around.
If policies are set around keeping money where it is, and passing directly to descendant (as in getting rid of the estate tax), the enslaved or not, black America is destined to be poor forever. Luckly, the situation is not that bad.
Stinger said:
Well that depends on the "minority population" you are talking about. Asians are a minority and I believe they do better than average. Jews are a minority but I believe they do better than average. There are many many blacks who make the average and far and above so obviously it is not simply because your skin is black is it.
Why when under Repbulican driven programs such as wel-fare reform poverty is going down. Why when under Republican driven programs such as No-Child-Left-Behind test scores for black children have risen. Why when under Republican driven programs black home ownership is at an all time high? Why when Democrats offer nothing but handouts and wel-fare enslavement?
Ultimately, it will be the work ethic of Asians that presents the biggest risk to American dominance in the world.
Home ownership is really bank ownership. American personal and government debt is the second biggest risk to American dominance in the world.
What is going to happen if interest rates spike because the debt has risen to almost $8Tril and externals start pulling out of US markets? What about those new home owners? The bank takes over those houses.
It is so easy to get credit in the US. Why? Because as long as the bank can take everything someone owns when they can't make payments because of a n illness or injury, or job loss, they don't care. Look at the bankrupcy laws that were going through congress last month.
Stinger said:
Sorry but what was they hypsothosis again?
I almost lost it too, but I think it was this:
It makes more sense for non-whites to vote for the Dems