Senate kills Agent Orange Benefits to NAVY vets

[RAMOSS]

If you had a patriotic bone in your body you would have served in uniform. But you didn't. Were you scared about serving?

Yet for all your complaints, you are not caring your fellow vets get the medical benefits they earned to cover the medial issues that were caused by their service. Isn't that amazing?

 

[Grokmaster]

A bill that would have extended Agent Orange benefits to Vietnam Era Navy vets was killed by Senate Republicans yesterday.

The so-called “Blue Water Navy Bill” died in the U.S. Senate when Sen. Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, objected, expressing concerns about the bill’s cost, according to Stars and Stripes.
The bill would make tens of thousands ailing veterans eligible for disability compensation and health care from the VA.

In addition, Trump's SecVA [FONT="]Robert Wilkie [URL="https://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/last-ditch-effort-to-pass-blue-water-navy-bill-fails-in-senate-1.560126"]voiced his opposition[/URL] to the bill in September, citing "cost concerns and insufficient scientific evidence".

The bill had previously passed UNANIMOUSLY in the House.[/FONT]

Navy personnel are typically OFFSHORE...away from the areas Agent Orange was used.....

 

[Tanngrisnir]

If you had a patriotic bone in your body you would have served in uniform. But you didn't. Were you scared about serving?

LOL! By that asinine 'reasoning' the vast, VAST majority of Americans didn't have a patriotic bone in their bodies.

Yet another avenue to channel your hate through.

 

[Terryj]

I think that those serving in the "Blue Water Navy" can prove their exposure to Agent Orange then they should be entitled to medical treatment and compensation from the VA, and currently that is the process.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Navy personnel are typically OFFSHORE...away from the areas Agent Orange was used.....

Keyword "typically". Yes, if someone was on an aircraft carrier then it'd be unlikely, but the Navy had a lot of brown water operations, "Riverines", and there was a strong chance of exposure there.

 

[UtahBill]

Keyword "typically". Yes, if someone was on an aircraft carrier then it'd be unlikely, but the Navy had a lot of brown water operations, "Riverines", and there was a strong chance of exposure there.

Yes, and there is a lot of info online about the Brown Water Navy. I spent my tour on the USS Harnett County, LST 821, a support craft modified to maintain the PBR's....This was Admiral Zumwalt's idea, and his son died from Agent Orange issues...while Admiral Zumwalt died of mesothelioma.

Google BEN LUC, VIETNAM maps and you will see how far inland the ship went. There is a bridge there, and LST's won't fit under that bridge.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Yes, and there is a lot of info online about the Brown Water Navy. I spent my tour on the USS Harnett County, LST 821, a support craft modified to maintain the PBR's....This was Admiral Zumwalt's idea, and his son died from Agent Orange issues...while Admiral Zumwalt died of mesothelioma.

Google BEN LUC, VIETNAM maps and you will see how far inland the ship went. There is a bridge there, and LST's won't fit under that bridge.

Dad changed after his second tour as an Army pilot and became paranoid. Now he has dementia. Agent Orange defoliated the area around the airfield.

Step-Dad was an Army arty battery commander and died of Agent Orange-related ALS. Neither are a good way to go.

Our nation has a duty to take care of its vets who have service related issues. No mickey mouse crap, just make it happen.

 

[UtahBill]

Dad changed after his second tour as an Army pilot and became paranoid. Now he has dementia. Agent Orange defoliated the area around the airfield.

Step-Dad was an Army arty battery commander and died of Agent Orange-related ALS. Neither are a good way to go.

Our nation has a duty to take care of its vets who have service related issues. No mickey mouse crap, just make it happen.

Original quote from Lincoln is "To care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan.”
Some want it genderless, or "To care for those who shall have borne the battle and their families and survivors.”

 

[Logicman]

LOL! By that asinine 'reasoning' the vast, VAST majority of Americans didn't have a patriotic bone in their bodies.

Yet another avenue to channel your hate through.

You didn't serve either, did you?

 

[Logicman]

Yet for all your complaints, you are not caring your fellow vets get the medical benefits they earned to cover the medial issues that were caused by their service. Isn't that amazing?

Another amazing lie on your part. You're on a roll with those today!

 

[Divine_Wind]

Original quote from Lincoln is "To care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan.”
Some want it genderless, or "To care for those who shall have borne the battle and their families and survivors.”

Since women serve in combat now (officially, not just under the table like before) they need to be covered too.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

You didn't serve either, did you?

Your admission of making an absurdly asinine assertion duly noted.

Why do you hate the vast majority of Americans who ever lived?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The government, Republicans and Democrats alike, don't care about our troops. They want them to run off and fight their wars, but once they've been used up the Republocrats will toss them aside without thought. We get vets that do not get proper care, help, that are homeless, etc. The VA is a mess, and despite the rhetoric coming from a certain group, it's not because Government fundamentally cannot maintain a proper and functioning VA. It's because the Government has no desire to maintain a proper and functioning VA. Once those kids have been used up, once they have fought for the Republocrat Wars, they do not care anymore. Toss them on the streets, who cares. Let them suffer with the physical and psychological damage we've caused them to fight the War, spending money on them afterwards....that costs money. Money that could be otherwise spent fighting the Republocrat Wars in the first place.

My wife is in a hospital bed right this second at the Long Beach VA. It is amusing to hear wholesale condemnations of the VA after they brought her dead kidney back to life for the eighth time in the last seven years, cleared an abscess in her bladder and installed a mid-line with IV Vancomycin all in the space of the last eleven hours.
Her kidney output is back to 87% and headed to 100 percent, her fever is gone and she's resting comfortably in her own private room.

The biggest thing that Congress can do to restore the VA's functionality again is to reverse Newt Gingrich's funding mechanism for VA Healthcare budgeting, which is currently discretionary spending, while the plant maintenance and construction budget is NON-discretionary. Flipping that around 180 degrees will give the VA the funds it needs to hire competent staff, conduct proper research and maintain an efficient schedule for its patients.

Let the folks in the building contractor industry fight for the funds they want to put grand pianos and new walkways in every crumbling VA facility.

It's NOT "Republicans and Democrats alike"....it IS REPUBLICANS.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Navy personnel are typically OFFSHORE...away from the areas Agent Orange was used.....

Keep reading, maybe you will learn something, like HOW Agent Orange GETS to where it needs to go, just as a for instance.