Sen. Mallory McMorrow drops truth on the fully vile Republican party

[Dans La Lune]

Finally a Democrat who can fight back. I don't know if she's progressive, moderate, whatever. This is a fantastic speech. Where is the rest of the party?

 

[phoenix2020]

Hell of a speech. Agree 100%.

The only people I pity more than her opponent are those who will feel an instinctual need to defend her opponent.

 

[Chomsky]

Finally a Democrat who can fight back. I don't know if she's progressive, moderate, whatever. This is a fantastic speech. Where is the rest of the party?

Two thoughts:

1] The GOP-Trumpers won't listen, nor care, nor even see this from inside their media bubble.

2] If you're explaining, you're losing!

 

[Bullseye]

Finally a Democrat who can fight back. I don't know if she's progressive, moderate, whatever. This is a fantastic speech. Where is the rest of the party?

Chum for LW suckers.

 

[Parrish]

She was fantastic. She appears to live her faith, values and the reason she is a Democrat. I disagree with your comment that if you're explaining you're losing, @Chomsky. She didn't complain. She smacked that sick, lying bitch down while holding her moral ground.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Chum for LW suckers.

What did she say that was left wing? Which particular thing struck you as the most unreasonable statement?

 

[Bullseye]

What did she say that was left wing? Which particular thing struck you as the most unreasonable statement?

Pick out all the right wing comments and what's left will answer your question. Have fun.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Pick out all the right wing comments and what's left will answer your question. Have fun.

So you didn't actually watch the speech, you're just knee-jerking.

Okay.

 

[Bullseye]

So you didn't actually watch the speech, you're just knee-jerking.

Okay.

Or, I just don't want to watch it again to pick out quotes to make you happy. My money's on that choice.

 

[Chomsky]

She was fantastic. She appears to live her faith, values and the reason she is a Democrat. I disagree with your comment that if you're explaining you're losing, @Chomsky. She didn't complain. She smacked that sick, lying bitch down while holding her moral ground.

Her opponent is leading the conversation, determining the terms and subject. Trust me, that is never good, and never what you want. You want to lead, determining the subject and terms that best suit yourself & your audience. You want to lead the conversation, not play reactionary catch-up!

Also, speeches like this may appeal to yourself, but I suspect they will be lost on most GOP supporters. And in addition, her opponent's supporters will quite likely never see this inside their media bubble.. McMorrow is on defense to her supporters here, not offense on her opponents.

 

[Schism]

Oh boy! A thread about those vile Republicans!

I hate those vile mother****ers! They're so ....vile!

 

[Parrish]

Her opponent is leading the conversation, determining the terms and subject. Trust me, that is never good, never what you want. You want to lead, determining the subject and terms that best suit yourself & your audience. You want to lead the conversation, not play reactionary catch-up!

Also, speeches like this may appeal to yourself, but I suspect the will be lost on most GOP supporters, and in addition her opponent's supporters will quite likely never see this. McMorrow is on defense to her supporters here, not offense on her opponents.

I'd bet you're wrong on this one, @Chomsky. There are independent voters and GOP voters who are listening.

 

[Parrish]

Oh boy! A thread about those vile Republicans!

I hate those vile mother****ers! They're so ....vile!

"A vote for Republicans are a vote against Democracy." Rob Reiner

 

[donhughesmusic]

Or, I just don't want to watch it again to pick out quotes to make you happy. My money's on that choice.

Laziness in a debate. Got it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Laziness in a debate. Got it.

Beats admitting he didn't actually watch the speech.

In fairness, he couldn't. It wasn't approved™.

 

[phoenix2020]

Her opponent is leading the conversation, determining the terms and subject. Trust me, that is never good, and never what you want. You want to lead, determining the subject and terms that best suit yourself & your audience. You want to lead the conversation, not play reactionary catch-up!

Also, speeches like this may appeal to yourself, but I suspect they will be lost on most GOP supporters. And in addition, her opponent's supporters will quite likely never see this inside their media bubble.. McMorrow is on defense to her supporters here, not offense on her opponents.

I agree. Sure, there are people like @Bullseye who consider themselves to be blindly loyal soldiers in a war against an Other and therefore have no alternative but to rise to the defense of their fellow soldiers like Sen. Theis--no matter what they say or do. However, even after decades of indoctrination via the mainstream conservative media, they still only constitute some 25% of the electorate. The majority, by a good margin, still respond to reason and constructive discourse, and will shy away from the likes of Sen. Lana Theis who only have hate to spew, and her instinctual defenders like @Bullseye.

 

[Chomsky]

I'd bet you're wrong on this one, @Chomsky. There are independent voters and GOP voters who are listening.

I actually took that into consideration, but came to the conclusion that any 'Indie' that believes McMorrow is a grooming pedophile, is not really an Indie, and consequently beyond hope to be swayed by an eloquent speech of the type we watched.

Do you really think anyone that believes McMorrow's a pedophile, has the intellectual maturity, intelligence, discernment, emotional stability, etc., to react positively to McMorrow's speech? Have you seen interviews with the Q-Anon/Big Lie crowd, when they're confronted with the truth? They don't accept it!

Those that believe insane nonsense, like the stuff promoted by McMorrow's opponent, are not going to come-around to a 3 minute speech by someone they believe is a pedo groomer. it's just not in their DNA!

 

[Hamish Howl]

I actually took that into consideration, but came to the conclusion that any 'Indie' that believes McMorrow is a grooming pedophile, is not really an Indie, and consequently beyond hope to be swayed by an eloquent speech of the type we watched.

Do you really think anyone that believes McMorrow's a pedophile, has the intellectual maturity, intelligence, discernment, emotional stability, etc., to react positively to McMorrow's speech? Have you seen interviews with the Q-Anon/Big Lie crowd, when they're confronted with the truth? They don't accept it!

Those that believe insane nonsense, like the stuff promoted by McMorrow's opponent, are not going to come-around to a 3 minute speech by someone they believe is a pedo groomer. it's just not in their DNA!

Yes, but we can still enjoy the speech.

 

[Chomsky]

I agree. Sure, there are people like @Bullseye who consider themselves to be blindly loyal soldiers in a war against an Other and therefore have no alternative but to rise to the defense of their fellow soldiers like Sen. Theis--no matter what they say or do. However, even after decades of indoctrination via the mainstream conservative media, they still only constitute some 25% of the electorate. The majority, by a good margin, still respond to reason and constructive discourse, and will shy away from the likes of Sen. Lana Theis who only have hate to spew, and her instinctual defenders like @Bullseye.

I'm not going to zone-in on Bullseye, as I haven't seen his specific comments (yet).

But, I will agree to your general thesis here. If someone blindly believes Sen Theis' unsupported claims, while dismissing McMorrow's speech above, they very well prove my (and your) theory.

 

[Argent]

Also, speeches like this may appeal to yourself, but I suspect they will be lost on most GOP supporters. And in addition, her opponent's supporters will quite likely never see this inside their media bubble.. McMorrow is on defense to her supporters here, not offense on her opponents.

GOP supporters weren't her target audience. To remain silent would have given her detractors more ammunition. Her rebuttal is a beacon of bravery shining among a crowd of cowards and sends a message to women of all ages that it's ok to stand up for themselves and not back down or be cowed by criticism, especially criticism that is a lie. Bravo!

 

[Linc]

Laziness in a debate. Got it.

You can always expect that one to pukkke up and derail a thread with misogynistic reichist comments.

 

[Parrish]

I actually took that into consideration, but came to the conclusion that any 'Indie' that believes McMorrow is a grooming pedophile, is not really an Indie, and consequently beyond hope to be swayed by an eloquent speech of the type we watched.

Do you really think anyone that believes McMorrow's a pedophile, has the intellectual maturity, intelligence, discernment, emotional stability, etc., to react positively to McMorrow's speech? Have you seen interviews with the Q-Anon/Big Lie crowd, when they're confronted with the truth? They don't accept it!

Those that believe insane nonsense, like the stuff promoted by McMorrow's opponent, are not going to come-around to a 3 minute speech by someone they believe is a pedo groomer. it's just not in their DNA!

yes, people might believe she is a pedophile but then there are those independents who say enough is enough @Chomsky

 

[phoenix2020]

I actually took that into consideration, but came to the conclusion that any 'Indie' that believes McMorrow is a grooming pedophile, is not really an Indie, and consequently beyond hope to be swayed by an eloquent speech of the type we watched.

Do you really think anyone that believes McMorrow's a pedophile, has the intellectual maturity, intelligence, discernment, emotional stability, etc., to react positively to McMorrow's speech? Have you seen interviews with the Q-Anon/Big Lie crowd, when they're confronted with the truth? They don't accept it!

Those that believe insane nonsense, like the stuff promoted by McMorrow's opponent, are not going to come-around to a 3 minute speech by someone they believe is a pedo groomer. it's just not in their DNA

If you permit an alternative perspective, I had a very different take on her speech. She has no problem being proud that she's white, a Christian AND a Democrat, and contrary to the most inspired of conservative narratives, she does not see a conflict between the first two attributes and the third--as she shouldn't. Yet, she also in the same speech unequivocally champions the rights of the disenfranchised. That absolutely would sway an independent who has socially liberal values but reacts negatively to the extreme-left's tendency to frame a things in a white-peeps-are-bad context... or previously might have bought into the GOP's narrative that this is the case.

To that end, the speech was brilliant.

But, I also believe it was authentic and moving. Depending on the day of the week, I'm a fiscally conservative Democrat or a Compassionate Conservative. I absolutely loved her speech and the values therein. That's the kind of leadership I want in our nation. The party that elevates her kind of leadership is the party I would vote for.

 

[Linc]

"A vote for Republicans are a vote against Democracy." Rob Reiner

Republicans and Putin mouth the same talking points.

 

[Antiwar]

Her opponent is leading the conversation, determining the terms and subject. Trust me, that is never good, and never what you want. You want to lead, determining the subject and terms that best suit yourself & your audience. You want to lead the conversation, not play reactionary catch-up!

Huh?

Quote: Theis, who is in the midst of an increasingly fierce primary race, recently sent out a campaign fundraising email that called out McMorrow by name. Although they represent different areas of the state and have never run against each other, Theis broadly attacked McMorrow with egregious allegations.

Lana Theis offers no apology or evidence in response to Mallory McMorrow's viral speech

The Brighton Republican offered no apology or evidence to support the claim that McMorrow supports grooming and sexualizing kindergartners.

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