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SCOTUS strikes down Luisiana abortion law

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In a 5 - 4 decision SCOTUS struck down the Luisiana abortion law.

GOOD.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.

Yes, how dare he not reduce women to incubation chambers, non-deserving of rights to their bodies. Why he should recognize women are reproduction property to the men. :roll:
 
Re: SCOTUS strikes down Louisiana abortion law

Womb owners are not forced-birth incubators, says SCOTUS. :thumbs:

Roe is the law of the land and it is here to stay. Prolifers need to get over it already. :)
 
Yes, how dare he not reduce women to incubation chambers, non-deserving of rights to their bodies. Why he should recognize women are reproduction property to the men. :roll:

The right to a legal abortion was not at issue in this case.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.

Supreme Court hands down major decision reaffirming abortion rights - ABC News

Roberts had been on the dissenting side of the Texas Whole Woman's case. In his concurring opinion with the majority on June Medical, Roberts explained that he still believed his 2016 opinion that "the case was wrongly decided," but he joined the majority this time around because "the question today" is on "whether to adhere to [the Whole Woman's case] in deciding the present case." Essentially, Roberts based his decision not on his opinion on the law itself, but on the basic concept of precedent.
"The legal doctrine of stare decisis requires us, absent special circumstances, to treat like cases alike," he wrote. "The Louisiana law imposes a burden on access to abortion just as severe as that imposed by the Texas law, for the same reasons. Therefore Louisiana’s law cannot stand under our precedents."
 
If I were nominating Supreme Court justices I would nominate those who had no special belief in stare decisis.
 
Interestingly, all the men on the Court wrote their own briefs, but the women did not.
 
People who have been convinced a fetus is a person will never understand. They become fewer every generation.
 
The right to a legal abortion was not at issue in this case.

And Justice Roberts voted to strike down the Louisiana law because precedent was set 2016 when the Texas law was set down and the Louisiana law was about a similar law when Texas tried restrict abortion.

To me it means Justice Roberts does respect precedent.

Once a precedent is set...there is no going back.

Roe vs Wade is based several presidents.

Precedents that came before Roe including the right of a parent to choose a private or religious school instead of a state school to send their child to.

These precedents most likely would become dismantled if Roe v Wade were overturned.

Weems v. United States (1910)
In a case from the Philippines, the Supreme Court finds that the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment" is not limited to what the authors of the Constitution understood under that concept.

Meyer v. Nebraska (1923)
A case ruling that parents may decide for themselves if and when their children may learn a foreign language, based upon a fundamental liberty interest individuals have in the family unit.

Pierce v. Society of Sisters (1925)

A case deciding that parents may not be forced to send their children to public rather than private schools, based on the idea that, once again, parents have a fundamental liberty in deciding what happens to their children.

Olmstead v. United States (1928)

The court decides that wire tapping is legal, no matter what the reason or motivation, because it is not expressly prohibited in the Constitution. Justice Brandeis' dissent, however, lays the groundwork for future understandings of privacy.

Skinner v. Oklahoma (1942)
An Oklahoma law providing for the sterilization of people found to be "habitual criminals" is struck down, based on idea that all people have a fundamental right to make their own choices about marriage and procreation.

Tileston v. Ullman (1943) & Poe v. Ullman (1961)

The Court refuses to hear a case on Connecticut laws prohibiting the sale of contraceptives because no one can demonstrate they have been harmed. Harlan's dissent in Poe, however, explains why the case should be reviewed and why fundamental privacy interests are at stake.

Griswold v. Connecticut (1965)
Connecticut's laws against distribution of contraceptives and contraceptive information to married couples are struck down, with the Court relying on earlier precedent involving the rights of people to make decisions about their families and procreation as a legitimate sphere of privacy.

Loving v. Virginia (1967)
Virginia law against interracial marriages is struck down, with the Court once again declaring that marriage is a "fundamental civil right" and that decisions in this arena are not those with which the State can interefere unless they have good cause.

Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972)

The right of people to have and know about contraceptives is expanded to unmarried couples, because the right of people to make such decisions exists due not simply to the nature of the marriage relationship. Instead, it is also due to the fact that it is individuals making these decisions, and as such the government has no business making it for them, regardless of their marital status.

Roe v. Wade (1973)
The landmark decision which established that women have a basic right to have an abortion, this was based in many ways upon the earlier decisions above. Through the above cases, the Supreme Court developed the idea that the Constitution protects a person's to privacy, particularly when it comes to matters involving children and procreation.
 
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If I were nominating Supreme Court justices I would nominate those who had no special belief in stare decisis.

Like Kavanaugh? This opinion just gave Senator Collins opponent, Sara Gideon, even more ammunition... (Collins is down 9 points in polling)
 
Its good news for pro-lifers because it means they can continue to carry on their holy crusade, living vicariously through women and their fetuses, which gives meaning to their own sorry lives.

Meanwhile, it seems like much of the rest of the world is moving more in the other direction. Women are gaining their rights.
 
I wonder if John is pissed at the Trumpers... I would be.
 
Note, the two anti-freedom bastards Trump appointed voted to deny women their rights.

Good for them. A couple more like them on the court and we'll start returning to sanity in this country.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.

Chief Justice Roberts cares more about the law than playing politics for the right wing.
 
Louisiana.

Biggest mistake Lincoln made besides attending a play that night was not letting the backwards states leave.
 
Good for them. A couple more like them on the court and we'll start returning to sanity in this country.

Uncle Thomas and Alito are pretty long in the tooth. Joe will probably pick three judges in his first term.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.

I think he is more interested in doing the right thing, this law was the very worst thing. It would have flaunted in the face of Roe v. Wade and all other abortion decisions after Roe v. Wade.

And maybe in the 8 years past he has grown a brain and understanding of the power his office holds and the desire not to make judicial activism pay off.
 
Uncle Thomas and Alito are pretty long in the tooth. Joe will probably pick three judges in his first term.

Perhaps though one of them will likely be that living fossil Ginsburg which won't change anything.

and he still has to get them approved by the Senate which as of now is still controlled by the GOP with a decent chance it will still be so in 2021.
 
Sad. Chief Justice John Roberts has shown that he is more interested in his place in history than anything else. Considering he voted to uphold the Texas law that was almost identical just eight years ago.

So John Roberts, concerned that he leave a brilliant legacy to history has voted with liberals instead of regressive, repressive, discriminatory conservatives. LOL. imagine that!!!
 
Perhaps though one of them will likely be that living fossil Ginsburg which won't change anything.

and he still has to get them approved by the Senate which as of now is still controlled by the GOP with a decent chance it will still be so in 2021.

It could be simply addition through subtraction. But it could go either way.
 
I think he is more interested in doing the right thing, this law was the very worst thing. It would have flaunted in the face of Roe v. Wade and all other abortion decisions after Roe v. Wade.

And maybe in the 8 years past he has grown a brain and understanding of the power his office holds and the desire not to make judicial activism pay off.

Conservatives who aren't hard core ideologues can change, and grow. There are a number of them from the recent history of the court. This has been a great source of frustration for our cultural warriors on the right, but their corporate counterparts can't complain - they still get what they want.
 
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