SCOTUS Gives Win to Corporations

Geoist · May 21, 2018

“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

prometeus · May 21, 2018

Yes that was shocking to me too. I expected Gorsuch to vote for the worker as he always did.

Praxas · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

Welcome to the United Corporations of America.

Sampson Simpson · May 21, 2018

Of course, even SCOTUS is in the pockets of teh corporations, that was clear with their Citizens United bull****. The US, for the corporation, of the corporation, by the corporation.

Just bend over and continue to take it up the ass americans

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

WTF? :shock:

Geoist · May 21, 2018

The ball is now in the GOP Congress’ court to change the law... :lamo

Hicup · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

It was the correct decision, and congress is free to change the law as the SCOTUS indicated in its decision:

Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said that the 1925 Federal Arbitration Act trumps the National Labor Relations Act and that employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations.

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"The policy may be debatable but the law is clear: Congress has instructed that arbitration agreements like those before us must be enforced as written," Gorsuch writes. "While Congress is of course always free to amend this judgment, we see nothing suggesting it did so in the NLRA — much less that it manifested a clear intention to displace the Arbitration Act. Because we can easily read Congress's statutes to work in harmony, that is where our duty lies."

Geese, do you guys read this stuff?

Tim-

Ikari · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

What!!! Our federal government side with major corporations over the rights and liberties of its People????? Never!

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
The ball is now in the GOP Congress’ court to change the law... :lamo

So now, after they bust all the unions, workers will have no representation whatsoever. The GOP better watch their backs.

All I can say is- we warned you and, how do you like that swamp-draining so far?

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Hicup said:
It was the correct decision, and congress is free to change the law as the SCOTUS indicated in its decision:

Geese, do you guys read this stuff?

Tim-

Yes, we do- I'm wondering if you have.

Ikari · May 21, 2018

leekohler2 said:
So now, after they bust all the unions, workers will have no representation whatsoever. The GOP better watch their backs.

All I can say is- we warned you and, how do you like that swamp-draining so far?

What's going to happen to them? You think they're going to lose power? We only vote D's or R's, and there isn't a huge difference between the two. The R's will always teeter-totter back into power, regardless of what they do. The D's won't do much for actual worker's rights either, they're paid by the same corporations paying the R's. So what's going to happen to them? Nothing.

Geoist · May 21, 2018

Hicup said:
It was the correct decision, and congress is free to change the law as the SCOTUS indicated in its decision:

Geese, do you guys read this stuff?

Tim-

Four justices dissented. Are you saying they ‘didn’t read this stuff?’

Barnacle · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
“In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.”

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

How does it serve the people to prevent class action lawsuits? Plaintiffs have little-to-no chance taking on billion dollar corporations on their own.

One of the things I never understood in this country is that you can sign a contract and then sue the other party because you decided that you no longer like what you agreed to in the first place.

"... employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations. ..."

Hicup · May 21, 2018

leekohler2 said:
Yes, we do- I'm wondering if you have.

I just posted the only thing you needed to understand and why this decision was the correct legal one. And this is what you come back with?

Tim-

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Ikari said:
What's going to happen to them? You think they're going to lose power? We only vote D's or R's, and there isn't a huge difference between the two. The R's will always teeter-totter back into power, regardless of what they do. The D's won't do much for actual worker's rights either, they're paid by the same corporations paying the R's. So what's going to happen to them? Nothing.

Yes, I do indeed believe there are differences between the two parties.

https://www.democrats.org/people/union-members-and-families

Hicup · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
Four justices dissented. Are you saying they ‘didn’t read this stuff?’

Oh boy, wow, what a great rebuttal. Man I wish I'd thought of that everytime a decision comes down I don't like.

Tim-

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Hicup said:
I just posted the only thing you needed to understand and why this decision was the correct legal one. And this is what you come back with?

Tim-

Yep, that's what I come back with. Read it again and then tell me what workers are supposed to do.

Ikari · May 21, 2018

leekohler2 said:
Yes, I do indeed believe there are differences between the two parties.

https://www.democrats.org/people/union-members-and-families

That's how the Republocrat Corporate Power Structure perpetuates, people buy into there being a difference. They say different things, but in the end they are beholden to the same Corporate Masters.

Geoist · May 21, 2018

Hicup said:
congress is free to change the law
Tim-

Would you go on record to support a change to the law to allow for class action suits? Do you really think the GOP would support such a bill?

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Ikari said:
That's how the Republocrat Corporate Power Structure perpetuates, people buy into there being a difference. They say different things, but in the end they are beholden to the same Corporate Masters.

If you read that- they actually DID different things.

Geoist · May 21, 2018

Hicup said:
Oh boy, wow, what a great rebuttal. Man I wish I'd thought of that everytime a decision comes down I don't like.

Tim-

Maybe you shouldn’t assume people don’t know what they are talking about just because they disagree with Gorsuch.

leekohler2 · May 21, 2018

Geoist said:
Would you go on record to support a change to the law to allow for class action suits? Do you really think the GOP would support such a bill?

We all know there is no chance in hell of that happening.

camlok · May 21, 2018

Barnacle said:
One of the things I never understood in this country is that you can sign a contract and then sue the other party because you decided that you no longer like what you agreed to in the first place.

"... employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations. ..."

The essence of a contract is that all parties are on an equal footing. Why don't you and I make a contract for who will own my house next week? You are the only one who holds a gun.

Geoist · May 21, 2018

Barnacle said:
One of the things I never understood in this country is that you can sign a contract and then sue the other party because you decided that you no longer like what you agreed to in the first place.

"... employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations. ..."

We are not talking about lawsuits over dress code. These are suits over violations of the law.

Ikari · May 21, 2018

leekohler2 said:
If you read that- they actually DID different things.

What have they done that is something above some superficial pretend play to the words? There's nothing real, nothing substantial being done. And it won't happen until the One Party has its power base threatened. Until such time, there is nothing that binds the One Party to the People, but plenty that bind it to the Corporations which fund it.

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