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Scotland and the EU

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Let us say hypothetically Scotland got it's independence and became a sovereign state.

Is there a 0% chance that Scotland could join the EU on it's own?
 

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Let us say hypothetically Scotland got it's independence and became a sovereign state.

Is there a 0% chance that Scotland could join the EU on it's own?

I'm sure they could join.
 

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Let us say hypothetically Scotland got it's independence and became a sovereign state.

Is there a 0% chance that Scotland could join the EU on it's own?

That is one way to have a first thread.

Assuming for a moment that Scotland gained Independence, there is no real reason for the EU to not let them join.

May not be easy, but... it could happen.
 

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But do you know the chances?

Is it very unlikely?
 

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That is one way to have a first thread.

Assuming for a moment that Scotland gained Independence, there is no real reason for the EU to not let them join.

May not be easy, but... it could happen.

They are going to be put on a waiting list and put through a rigorous system. Someone said the EU will not let them in at all.

But I want to know if this is actually true. Due to the fact that a vast majority of Scotland voted to stay in the EU.
 

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Let us say hypothetically Scotland got it's independence and became a sovereign state.

Is there a 0% chance that Scotland could join the EU on it's own?

They could join.. would take time, but sure they could join. Automatic membership wont happen.
 

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They could join.. would take time, but sure they could join. Automatic membership wont happen.

Will there be a waiting list? A heard the waiting list theory is a myth is this true?
 

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Will there be a waiting list? A heard the waiting list theory is a myth is this true?

LOL no.

There are conditions that need to be met. Budget, legal and so on. Scotland should be able to meet them somewhat easily. Only issues is how it handles its independence since it gets a big portion of its income from the UK.. so...

Then there are the political.. you need all members to agree. This is where it can be tricky, since several member states have rebellious regions that could exploit Scotland getting membership.
 

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Spain will fight against it tooth and nail.
 

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They are going to be put on a waiting list and put through a rigorous system. Someone said the EU will not let them in at all.

But I want to know if this is actually true. Due to the fact that a vast majority of Scotland voted to stay in the EU.

Wait, “someone said the EU will not let them in at all” and you are asking us to tell you if that is true or not?

Who is this someone that said this? Then perhaps them we’ll have something to discuss on the assumption that someone went far enough to say why.

What some of us are saying here is we do not see the reason why the EU would not accept an Independent Scotland but we are also saying it will not be easy (because frankly it is not easy anyway.)

The point is for you to open a thread asking us to support or deny a “someone” with no reference to who that is or some story we can evaluate is rather nonsensical.

Why do you think a hypothetical Independent Scotland should or should not be accepted by the EU? (At least give us that to discuss.)
 

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Yet Germany, France, and a few others may be all for it as a last F-you to England.

France would also be worried about Brittany pushing for independence
 

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Wait, “someone said the EU will not let them in at all” and you are asking us to tell you if that is true or not?

Who is this someone that said this? Then perhaps them we’ll have something to discuss on the assumption that someone went far enough to say why.

What some of us are saying here is we do not see the reason why the EU would not accept an Independent Scotland but we are also saying it will not be easy (because frankly it is not easy anyway.)

The point is for you to open a thread asking us to support or deny a “someone” with no reference to who that is or some story we can evaluate is rather nonsensical.

Why do you think a hypothetical Independent Scotland should or should not be accepted by the EU? (At least give us that to discuss.)

On the basis that Scotland could have a referendum but it isn’t mandated by Westminster and therefore it’s nothing more than a poll. And the other issue is with Scotland joining the Eu is simply to do with vetos and that there are half a dozen countries that would veto it because of their own separatist movements.
 

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Wait, “someone said the EU will not let them in at all” and you are asking us to tell you if that is true or not?

Who is this someone that said this? Then perhaps them we’ll have something to discuss on the assumption that someone went far enough to say why.

What some of us are saying here is we do not see the reason why the EU would not accept an Independent Scotland but we are also saying it will not be easy (because frankly it is not easy anyway.)

The point is for you to open a thread asking us to support or deny a “someone” with no reference to who that is or some story we can evaluate is rather nonsensical.

Why do you think a hypothetical Independent Scotland should or should not be accepted by the EU? (At least give us that to discuss.)

Also Scotland will have to find one way to manage to bypass a currency crisis, a reputation for defaulting on massive levels of debt, the Catalonia crisis and the EU coming out to say it isn't happening.
 

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LOL no.

There are conditions that need to be met. Budget, legal and so on. Scotland should be able to meet them somewhat easily. Only issues is how it handles its independence since it gets a big portion of its income from the UK.. so...

Then there are the political.. you need all members to agree. This is where it can be tricky, since several member states have rebellious regions that could exploit Scotland getting membership.

Thanks or the reply. And also Scotland will have to find one way to manage to bypass a currency crisis, a reputation for defaulting on massive levels of debt, the Catalonia crisis and the EU coming out to say it isn't happening.
 

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Funny how language and national borders keeps interfering with a truly unified Europe.
 
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