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School strikes over climate change continue to snowball

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Number of students participating in school strikes for climate action reaches record numbers around the world. With 30 000 students on school strike just in Belgium this week.

The 16-year-old activist behind the fast-growing School Strikes 4 Climate Action has taken her campaign to the streets of Davos, to confront world leaders and business chiefs about the global emissions crisis.

Greta Thunberg, whose solo protest outside Sweden’s parliament has snowballed across the globe, will join a strike by Swiss school children in the ski resort on Friday – the final day of the World Economic Forum.

Thunberg travelled by train for 32 hours to reach Davos, and spent Wednesday night camped with climate scientists on the mountain slopes – where temperatures plunged to -18C.

Having already addressed the UN Climate Change COP 24 conference, Thunberg is rapidly becoming the voice for a generation who are demanding urgent action to slow the rise in global temperatures.

As she travelled down Davos’s funicular railway from the Arctic Base Camp – while more than 30,000 students were striking in Belgium - Thunberg said the rapid growth of her movement was “incredible”.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ikes-over-climate-change-continue-to-snowball
 
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Idiotic. I would say I've never seen such a waste of time put toward a useless cause, but that's not true.... there are a lot out there.

We are starting to running out of time in limiting the devastating effects of manmade global warming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...fossil-fuels-greenhouse-gas-co2-a8574731.html

There even federal agencies under Donald Trump acknowledge manmade global warming and its devastating effects.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

So people need to make their voices heard when the economical and politcal elite fails to take action on climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2019/01/23/davos/?utm_term=.ec0b87570eb5
 

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Have any of the students smirked?
 

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We are starting to running out of time in limiting the devastating effects of manmade global warming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...fossil-fuels-greenhouse-gas-co2-a8574731.html

There even federal agencies under Donald Trump acknowledge manmade global warming and its devastating effects.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

So people need to make their voices heard when the economical and politcal elite fails to take action on climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2019/01/23/davos/?utm_term=.ec0b87570eb5

I checked out the NASA link because that is the only one that merits a look, really. Nothing in there about it being any type of catastrophe... what they do is talk about what is happening and might happen... nobody, including them, knows if it is some huge negative thing to have the climate change any more than it is... we already have tsunamis, volcanic eruptions and mudslides, tornados, hurricanes, etc that kill untold thousands of people every year. That is life...
 

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Losers should go to class and learn the skills needed to actually solve the problem instead of whining for their mommies and daddies to fix everything for them.
 

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We are starting to running out of time in limiting the devastating effects of manmade global warming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...fossil-fuels-greenhouse-gas-co2-a8574731.html

There even federal agencies under Donald Trump acknowledge manmade global warming and its devastating effects.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

So people need to make their voices heard when the economical and politcal elite fails to take action on climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2019/01/23/davos/?utm_term=.ec0b87570eb5

You forgot that other expert...Ocasio-Cortez. According to her the world ends in 12 years.
 

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I checked out the NASA link because that is the only one that merits a look, really. Nothing in there about it being any type of catastrophe... what they do is talk about what is happening and might happen... nobody, including them, knows if it is some huge negative thing to have the climate change any more than it is... we already have tsunamis, volcanic eruptions and mudslides, tornados, hurricanes, etc that kill untold thousands of people every year. That is life...

NASA have also a page about the effects there this is some of the effects for the US.

"Below are some of the impacts that are currently visible throughout the U.S. and will continue to affect these regions, according to the Third3 and Fourth4 National Climate Assessment Reports, released by the U.S. Global Change Research Program:

Northeast. Heat waves, heavy downpours and sea level rise pose growing challenges to many aspects of life in the Northeast. Infrastructure, agriculture, fisheries and ecosystems will be increasingly compromised. Many states and cities are beginning to incorporate climate change into their planning.

Northwest. Changes in the timing of streamflow reduce water supplies for competing demands. Sea level rise, erosion, inundation, risks to infrastructure and increasing ocean acidity pose major threats. Increasing wildfire, insect outbreaks and tree diseases are causing widespread tree die-off.

Southeast. Sea level rise poses widespread and continuing threats to the region’s economy and environment. Extreme heat will affect health, energy, agriculture and more. Decreased water availability will have economic and environmental impacts.

Midwest. Extreme heat, heavy downpours and flooding will affect infrastructure, health, agriculture, forestry, transportation, air and water quality, and more. Climate change will also exacerbate a range of risks to the Great Lakes.

Southwest. Increased heat, drought and insect outbreaks, all linked to climate change, have increased wildfires. Declining water supplies, reduced agricultural yields, health impacts in cities due to heat, and flooding and erosion in coastal areas are additional concerns."


https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

Also I provided two direct links to scientific reports from the federal goverment under Donald Trump that show that manmade global warming will have devasting effects. Can you show any reports from the federal goverment under Trump, before under Bush or from Republican congresses that refute the evidence of manmade global warming?
 

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We are starting to running out of time in limiting the devastating effects of manmade global warming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...fossil-fuels-greenhouse-gas-co2-a8574731.html

There even federal agencies under Donald Trump acknowledge manmade global warming and its devastating effects.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

So people need to make their voices heard when the economical and politcal elite fails to take action on climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2019/01/23/davos/?utm_term=.ec0b87570eb5

I am not a denier, though I am a skeptic on the severity of the issue. But anyway, it doesn't even matter regardless.

It is literally impossible to stop the world from using oil. Literally impossible. We WILL, as a human race, burn/use every last drop until it is gone. That is going to happen, whether you like it or not, whether the UN makes a passionate speech about it or not.

We have billions of people, that depends on their LITERAL SURVIVAL on oil and gasoline.... Billions. We have entire countries economies, completely dependent on it's production and or consumption. You will not stop the entire world from consuming oil; Russia, China, The Middle East, hell the entirety of Asia and Africa, venezuela , brazil... Never.

It is 100% idiotic to think so. All you are doing, is rising the cost of living for no reason whatsoever... and sometimes murdering people due to international energy policies(Poor and desperate people have no voice in this, the people who are impacted by oil restrictions are the poor and suffering.... not the privileged)



If you want to help save the environment, which I do.... I actually care a lot about the environment., my first major in college was environmental science, until I switched to Physics.... Don't put a cent or second of your time on this issue. You need to pick your battles, and you need to know when you have to adapt to change.

Pesticides, toxic runoff, plastic trash, trash, deforestation, poaching, desertification, animal conservation, are all the things you should be worried about..... and the first one, pesticides, is arguably the biggest most pressing concern right now. In the US... we have almost literally wiped out 70% of the insect life in a decade or two. Honey-bees are going extinct, Monarchs are going extinct, the list is too big to go on.


The ONLY hope you have for climate change.... is technology. Ditch every other effort, it is a complete waste of time. Until a easier and significantly cheaper alternative to fossil fuels comes that makes fossil fuels obsolete(And it does not exists yet), it is going to be the status quo. Eventually and inevitably, there will be a time where that is true. Why? because eventually we are going to burn enough oil to the point where the oil reserves run dry and prices start to increase to where an alternate can come through.
 

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Losers should go to class and learn the skills needed to actually solve the problem instead of whining for their mommies and daddies to fix everything for them.

The devasting effects of manmade global have been known for decades and the grown ups in charge have still failed to take action. So of course students have right to feel that that enough is enough and go on school strike one day a week.
 

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I am not a denier, though I am a skeptic on the severity of the issue. But anyway, it doesn't even matter regardless.

It is literally impossible to stop the world from using oil. Literally impossible. We WILL, as a human race, burn/use every last drop until it is gone. That is going to happen, whether you like it or not, whether the UN makes a passionate speech about it or not.

We have billions of people, that depends on their LITERAL SURVIVAL on oil and gasoline.... Billions. We have entire countries economies, completely dependent on it's production and or consumption. You will not stop the entire world from consuming oil; Russia, China, The Middle East, hell the entirety of Asia and Africa, venezuela , brazil... Never.

It is 100% idiotic to think so. All you are doing, is rising the cost of living for no reason whatsoever... and sometimes murdering people due to international energy policies(Poor and desperate people have no voice in this, the people who are impacted by oil restrictions are the poor and suffering.... not the privileged)



If you want to help save the environment, which I do.... I actually care a lot about the environment., my first major in college was environmental science, until I switched to Physics.... Don't put a cent or second of your time on this issue. You need to pick your battles, and you need to know when you have to adapt to change.

Pesticides, toxic runoff, plastic trash, trash, deforestation, poaching, desertification, animal conservation, are all the things you should be worried about..... and the first one, pesticides, is arguably the biggest most pressing concern right now. In the US... we have almost literally wiped out 70% of the insect life in a decade or two. Honey-bees are going extinct, Monarchs are going extinct, the list is too big to go on.


The ONLY hope you have for climate change.... is technology. Ditch, every other effort, it is a complete waste of time. Until a easier and significantly cheaper alternative to fossil fuels comes that makes fossil fuels obsolete(And it does not exists yet), it is going to be the status quo. Eventually and inevitably, there will be a time where that is true. Why? because eventually we are going to burn enough oil to the point where the oil reserves run price and prices start to increase to where an alternate can come through.

You for example have UK that have drastically reduced it's coal consumption and will close its last coal plant in 2025.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/05/uk-coal-fired-power-plants-close-2025

Also Sweden that implemented a carbon tax as early as 1995 and is one of the world's most sustainable countries,.

https://info.esg.adec-innovations.c...worlds-most-sustainable-country-top-5-reasons

And Denmark got 43 percent of their electricity from wind power in 2017 and also plan to meet 50 percent of all their energy needs with renewable energy by 2030.

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2018/0111/932573-denmark-wind-farm/

There those countries also have less than half the C02 pollution per capita of US.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC

While at the same time rank higher than US on the best country for business list.

https://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/list/#tab:overall

Also having communities, governments, corporations and individuals leading the way in the transition away from fossil fuels have drastically reduced the cost of renewable energy. So that even local Republican politicians are starting to see the benefits of renewable energy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...n-leaders-love-renewable-energy/#631e530f3da7
 

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You for example have UK that have drastically reduced it's coal consumption and will close its last coal plant in 2025.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/05/uk-coal-fired-power-plants-close-2025

Also Sweden that implemented a carbon tax as early as 1995 and is one of the world's most sustainable countries,.

https://info.esg.adec-innovations.c...worlds-most-sustainable-country-top-5-reasons

And Denmark got 43 percent of their electricity from wind power in 2017 and also plan to meet 50 percent of all their energy needs with renewable energy by 2030.

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2018/0111/932573-denmark-wind-farm/

There those countries also have less than half the C02 pollution per capita of US.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC

While at the same time rank higher than US on the best country for business list.

https://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/list/#tab:overall

Also having communities, governments, corporations and individuals leading the way in the transition away from fossil fuels have drastically reduced the cost of renewable energy. So that even local Republican politicians are starting to see the benefits of renewable energy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...n-leaders-love-renewable-energy/#631e530f3da7

Who cares if a few privileged countries in Europe did that? It means nothing to the world on a practical level. Their economies rely on the surrounding world. Denmark doesn't have a half a billion people living under a tin roof xD
 

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Who cares if a few privileged countries in Europe did that? It means nothing to the world on a practical level. Their economies rely on the surrounding world.

You also for example have India that plan to get nearly 60 percent of their elecitricy from non fossil fuels by 2027.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/21/india-renewable-energy-paris-climate-summit-target

That renewables are starting to outcompete fossil fuels also in India.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/energy...ting-coal-costs-more-than-new-wind-and-solar/
 

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I am not a denier, though I am a skeptic on the severity of the issue. But anyway, it doesn't even matter regardless.

It is literally impossible to stop the world from using oil. Literally impossible. We WILL, as a human race, burn/use every last drop until it is gone. That is going to happen, whether you like it or not, whether the UN makes a passionate speech about it or not.

We have billions of people, that depends on their LITERAL SURVIVAL on oil and gasoline.... Billions. We have entire countries economies, completely dependent on it's production and or consumption. You will not stop the entire world from consuming oil; Russia, China, The Middle East, hell the entirety of Asia and Africa, venezuela , brazil... Never.

It is 100% idiotic to think so. All you are doing, is rising the cost of living for no reason whatsoever... and sometimes murdering people due to international energy policies(Poor and desperate people have no voice in this, the people who are impacted by oil restrictions are the poor and suffering.... not the privileged)



If you want to help save the environment, which I do.... I actually care a lot about the environment., my first major in college was environmental science, until I switched to Physics.... Don't put a cent or second of your time on this issue. You need to pick your battles, and you need to know when you have to adapt to change.

Pesticides, toxic runoff, plastic trash, trash, deforestation, poaching, desertification, animal conservation, are all the things you should be worried about..... and the first one, pesticides, is arguably the biggest most pressing concern right now. In the US... we have almost literally wiped out 70% of the insect life in a decade or two. Honey-bees are going extinct, Monarchs are going extinct, the list is too big to go on.


The ONLY hope you have for climate change.... is technology. Ditch every other effort, it is a complete waste of time. Until a easier and significantly cheaper alternative to fossil fuels comes that makes fossil fuels obsolete(And it does not exists yet), it is going to be the status quo. Eventually and inevitably, there will be a time where that is true. Why? because eventually we are going to burn enough oil to the point where the oil reserves run dry and prices start to increase to where an alternate can come through.

A thousand likes for this!

I've been saying much of the same thing for 2 decades. Oil is a finite resource and necessity is the mother of all invention. Subjecting the world to economic ruin will do more harm to the planet than burning fossil fuels ever could.
 

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NASA have also a page about the effects there this is some of the effects for the US.

"Below are some of the impacts that are currently visible throughout the U.S. and will continue to affect these regions, according to the Third3 and Fourth4 National Climate Assessment Reports, released by the U.S. Global Change Research Program:

Northeast. Heat waves, heavy downpours and sea level rise pose growing challenges to many aspects of life in the Northeast. Infrastructure, agriculture, fisheries and ecosystems will be increasingly compromised. Many states and cities are beginning to incorporate climate change into their planning.

Northwest. Changes in the timing of streamflow reduce water supplies for competing demands. Sea level rise, erosion, inundation, risks to infrastructure and increasing ocean acidity pose major threats. Increasing wildfire, insect outbreaks and tree diseases are causing widespread tree die-off.

Southeast. Sea level rise poses widespread and continuing threats to the region’s economy and environment. Extreme heat will affect health, energy, agriculture and more. Decreased water availability will have economic and environmental impacts.

Midwest. Extreme heat, heavy downpours and flooding will affect infrastructure, health, agriculture, forestry, transportation, air and water quality, and more. Climate change will also exacerbate a range of risks to the Great Lakes.

Southwest. Increased heat, drought and insect outbreaks, all linked to climate change, have increased wildfires. Declining water supplies, reduced agricultural yields, health impacts in cities due to heat, and flooding and erosion in coastal areas are additional concerns."


https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

Also I provided two direct links to scientific reports from the federal goverment under Donald Trump that show that manmade global warming will have devasting effects. Can you show any reports from the federal goverment under Trump, before under Bush or from Republican congresses that refute the evidence of manmade global warming?

Man Made contribution to Climate Change is a real fact. The thing that is not a fact is how Climate Change will effect humanity.
 

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Coal is still being mined in the USA, and then shipped to China.
Likewise crappy low grade crude in Venezuela that requires a lot of processing to be used.
That isn't progress.
 

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Don't worry. Trump knows his climate science. After all, he used to manage tenements for Daddy.
 

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Can anyone point to a time in history when earth's climate wasn't changing?
 

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Christ, a bunch of people who couldn't come close to passing a science 10 course think they know more than the hundreds of thousands of experts who have devoted their lives to becoming experts in these fields.

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We are starting to running out of time in limiting the devastating effects of manmade global warming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...fossil-fuels-greenhouse-gas-co2-a8574731.html

There even federal agencies under Donald Trump acknowledge manmade global warming and its devastating effects.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

So people need to make their voices heard when the economical and politcal elite fails to take action on climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2019/01/23/davos/?utm_term=.ec0b87570eb5

The truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off.
 

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40% here, 20% there both delays the effects and gives us experience to get to 100%

No... not even close to enough.... it is a water drop in the ocean.

I already mentioned what your hopes are.... and I mentioned the dangers of wasting your time on this issue. The planet will die not because of climate change, but because you chose to put all your money and effort in something that was pointless and chose to not focus on the things that actually make the largest impact on the environment
 

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The only way to keep them believing in man made catastrophic climate change, is to keep them from getting an education!

If they had lobotomies they could become science denying climate truthers.
 
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