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Yes that is what is needed since in this instance the code was nowhere near clear and that is the entire point which for some reason you are avoiding.Then it can be clarified.
I have not said anything to the contrary.The school still has power to reasonably restrict the type of clothing the student body can wear.
There is a thread in breaking news about an 8th grader suspended for wearing a t-shirt to school which was deemed as a violation to what can reasonably be considered a vague dress code. This is not about that, but rather in general about dress coded in schools, or more precisely in public schools.
There were arguments made that freedom of expression should trump dress codes. If that is so, should it be totally without restrictions or with some restrictions.
Let me just throw this out there: In NYC's Tine Square, there are "performers" who wear nothing but body paint and under First Amendment rules they are free do do so, although now NYC is trying to implement some regulation. So what would happen if someone showed up to school with such an expression?
Dress codes and more specifically, school uniforms, are a great idea and should be happening in every school in the US.
He's right.
I hope you are joking...:shock:
IMHO school uniforms are part of the problem with the US and how we raise kids.
Let them have some expression in how they dress. Maybe they wouldn't feel like they have to pierce their skins or get tattoos all over because "gosh we let them have a little freedom".
All we are doing is coping out in teaching these kids proper behavior.
"well what if the kid wears a shirt that says " I like *****" with a picture of a cat on it.
You know what? You do what people have done for eons... you teach the kid its inappropriate and why.
so then when the kid goes on his first job interview.. he doesn't wear that t shirt because he already has learned how society works.
instead of not giving the child any choice and thus no opportunity to LEARN appropriate dress and behavior.
We spend so much time AVOIDING teaching children right and wrong, and societal values... and then are surprised when they reach 18 that they don't have societal values.
so we don't keep score in pee wee league baseball.. because "we don't want them to focus on winning and losing"... and of course.. then the kids don't have an opportunity to win with grace or lose with grace. and then we are surprised that they act like a holes when suddenly the score does matter.
IMHO school uniforms are part of the problem with the US and how we raise kids.
Let them have some expression in how they dress. Maybe they wouldn't feel like they have to pierce their skins or get tattoos all over because "gosh we let them have a little freedom".
All we are doing is coping out in teaching these kids proper behavior.
"well what if the kid wears a shirt that says " I like *****" with a picture of a cat on it.
You know what? You do what people have done for eons... you teach the kid its inappropriate and why.
so then when the kid goes on his first job interview.. he doesn't wear that t shirt because he already has learned how society works.
instead of not giving the child any choice and thus no opportunity to LEARN appropriate dress and behavior.
We spend so much time AVOIDING teaching children right and wrong, and societal values... and then are surprised when they reach 18 that they don't have societal values.
so we don't keep score in pee wee league baseball.. because "we don't want them to focus on winning and losing"... and of course.. then the kids don't have an opportunity to win with grace or lose with grace. and then we are surprised that they act like a holes when suddenly the score does matter.
This has to be one of the wierdest responsese to school uniforms that I have heard, I think.
...and all the same lessons can be taught when uniforms are the standard.
I am sure you do.
I see what you think of American freedom on the thread about the right to bear arms.
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The fact you think so is what's so wrong.
IMHO school uniforms are part of the problem with the US and how we raise kids.
Let them have some expression in how they dress. Maybe they wouldn't feel like they have to pierce their skins or get tattoos all over because "gosh we let them have a little freedom".
All we are doing is coping out in teaching these kids proper behavior.
"well what if the kid wears a shirt that says " I like *****" with a picture of a cat on it.
You know what? You do what people have done for eons... you teach the kid its inappropriate and why.
so then when the kid goes on his first job interview.. he doesn't wear that t shirt because he already has learned how society works.
instead of not giving the child any choice and thus no opportunity to LEARN appropriate dress and behavior.
We spend so much time AVOIDING teaching children right and wrong, and societal values... and then are surprised when they reach 18 that they don't have societal values.
so we don't keep score in pee wee league baseball.. because "we don't want them to focus on winning and losing"... and of course.. then the kids don't have an opportunity to win with grace or lose with grace. and then we are surprised that they act like a holes when suddenly the score does matter.
Why?
Having attended schools both with and without dress codes, more specifically, school uniforms I think school uniforms are stupid and failed to see any real benefit from having been forced to wear one.
:lol: I am surprised you did't go with a Nazi picture and call me Hitler... :lol:
I can see that debating you is a waste of time...
Great counter argument. As a parent and an teacher, I am confident that I know far more about this than you, since I deal with it daily.
Just a guess, off the top of your head, what percentage of school kids in America wear uniforms?
As a sidebar, because it's a non sequitur, which group would you guess performs better academically?
Nineteen percent of public school principals reported requiring uniforms in the 2009-2010 school year, up from 12 percent a decade earlier, according to TODAY
They have tremendoustremendous 6merit in junior and senior high schools. Particulary with girls. Eliminates competition.
honestly.. do you really believe it "eliminates competition"?
For clothing it does. And that itself is a HUGE problem.
No it doesn't. do you really think girls aren;t wearing different clothing to school events, out in public.. with their friends.. at parties.. out in the mall.
Uniforms are a blatant example of indoctrination of school kids.
Dress codes and more specifically, school uniforms, are a great idea and should be happening in every school in the US.
You got proof of that? What kind of indoctrination?
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