Scarborough shows the ridiculousness of liberals who oppose voter id's

[Grim17]

This mornings segment from MSNBC's "Morning Joe" not only nails it, but begs the question:

How in the hell can anyone who possesses one shred of honesty, continue playing the race card on the issue of voter id's?



Scarborough: Racist Claims About Voter ID Laws "Outrageous" | RealClearPolitics

 

[Dittohead not!]

This mornings segment from MSNBC's "Morning Joe" not only nails it, but begs the question:

How in the hell can anyone who possesses one shred of honesty, continue playing the race card on the issue of voter id's?



Scarborough: Racist Claims About Voter ID Laws "Outrageous" | RealClearPolitics

How indeed?
And this is from MSNBC, not exactly a mouthpiece for the conservative agenda.

 

[tererun]

This mornings segment from MSNBC's "Morning Joe" not only nails it, but begs the question:

How in the hell can anyone who possesses one shred of honesty, continue playing the race card on the issue of voter id's?



Scarborough: Racist Claims About Voter ID Laws "Outrageous" | RealClearPolitics

The problem in NC is not voter ID IMO. I agree a picture ID is not too much of a hardship to vote. The problems comes more from what is riding with the bill which closes down some notable democratic voting areas and seeks to gerrymander districts and make it harder for people to cast votes. That difficulty does not come from getting ID, but rather from actually making polling places less available and harder to reach. If voter ID was so important they should have passed that on it's own and not done anything else. Instead they attach other problems to that resolution and then dishonestly claim it is just about ID. This also shows they are being dishonest about the purpose of those laws because they are doimng things to make it harder for voters to vote, especially in democrat leaning districts which clearly illustrated their motives for the voter ID laws. Still, if they just limited it to voter ID and nothing else i would agree that the complaints from the left are pretty much unfounded because we should promote people having ID for many reasons more than just voting.

 

[Mr.Nick]

This mornings segment from MSNBC's "Morning Joe" not only nails it, but begs the question:

How in the hell can anyone who possesses one shred of honesty, continue playing the race card on the issue of voter id's?



Scarborough: Racist Claims About Voter ID Laws "Outrageous" | RealClearPolitics[/url

It must be a real difficult time being trapped in a conservatives mind in MSNBC's body...

 

[head of joaquin]

The OP plays the race card card. Like clockwork.

There is no way that voter IDs stop any substantial voter fraud. The system already picks up double voting. You can't affect an election by using fake IDs. Impossible.

So the real issue is why voter ID laws. The answer is simple -- it will suppress some voting by poor and minorities, the real purpose.

 

[Hicup]

The OP plays the race card card. Like clockwork.

There is no way that voter IDs stop any substantial voter fraud. The system already picks up double voting. You can't affect an election by using fake IDs. Impossible.

So the real issue is why voter ID laws. The answer is simple -- it will suppress some voting by poor and minorities, the real purpose.

Is poverty an issue of race in this country? Are you saying that what all these states would really like to do by enacting voter ID laws is suppress black people and latino's? Poor white folks don't vote?

You are certifiable bro!


Tim-

 

[Grim17]

The OP plays the race card card. Like clockwork.

There is no way that voter IDs stop any substantial voter fraud. The system already picks up double voting. You can't affect an election by using fake IDs. Impossible.

So the real issue is why voter ID laws. The answer is simple -- it will suppress some voting by poor and minorities, the real purpose.

A legal ID is required to:

Apply for and use food stamps
Apply for and receive welfare
Apply for and receive unemployment assistance
Apply for and receive government health care assistance
Apply for and receive any federal government assistance
Apply for and receive any state government assistance
Gain legal employment in the US
Open a bank account
Cash a check
Use a credit card
Drive a car
Receive/fill many perscription drugs
Get an airline ticket
Attend college
Receive college grants or loans
Purchase alcohol
Purchase cigarettes
Enter a bar or night club​

Now I challenge you to find a poor person living in the US that has never needed any of the things I listed above...





The fact of the matter is, your argument is as phony as a $3 bill and if you had an ounce of honesty or integrity, you wouldn't have ever tried using it in the first place.

 

[Jerry]

This mornings segment from MSNBC's "Morning Joe" not only nails it, but begs the question:

How in the hell can anyone who possesses one shred of honesty, continue playing the race card on the issue of voter id's?

Scarborough: Racist Claims About Voter ID Laws "Outrageous" | RealClearPolitics

Voter ID is ****ing retarded. Next thing you know they'll want you have an ID in order to carry a gun or get a job. Where does it end?

 

[Linc]

I believe in the Voter ID to cause those advocates to STFU. I am fully prepared for these states' righters to write a new voter ID law every two years. We must get past the talk of voter ID to see the "rest of the story" in these new laws.

Voter ID is ****ing retarded. Next thing you know they'll want you have an ID in order to carry a gun or get a job. Where does it end?

 

[P. Kersey]

The OP plays the race card card. Like clockwork.

There is no way that voter IDs stop any substantial voter fraud.

Prove it.

So the real issue is why voter ID laws. The answer is simple -- it will suppress some voting by poor and minorities, the real purpose.

Prove it.

 

[ReformCollege]

The problem in NC is not voter ID IMO. I agree a picture ID is not too much of a hardship to vote. The problems comes more from what is riding with the bill which closes down some notable democratic voting areas and seeks to gerrymander districts and make it harder for people to cast votes. That difficulty does not come from getting ID, but rather from actually making polling places less available and harder to reach. If voter ID was so important they should have passed that on it's own and not done anything else. Instead they attach other problems to that resolution and then dishonestly claim it is just about ID. This also shows they are being dishonest about the purpose of those laws because they are doimng things to make it harder for voters to vote, especially in democrat leaning districts which clearly illustrated their motives for the voter ID laws. Still, if they just limited it to voter ID and nothing else i would agree that the complaints from the left are pretty much unfounded because we should promote people having ID for many reasons more than just voting.

Just curious, you don't think this might have to do with breaking up minority-majority districts, which were gerrymandered in the first place?

 

[head of joaquin]

Is poverty an issue of race in this country? Are you saying that what all these states would really like to do by enacting voter ID laws is suppress black people and latino's? Poor white folks don't vote?

You are certifiable bro!


Tim-

Not only do I say it, Republicans have on occasion deviated into the truth and admitted it.

I see you didn't get the memo.

 

[head of joaquin]

A legal ID is required to:

Apply for and use food stamps
Apply for and receive welfare
Apply for and receive unemployment assistance
Apply for and receive government health care assistance
Apply for and receive any federal government assistance
Apply for and receive any state government assistance
Gain legal employment in the US
Open a bank account
Cash a check
Use a credit card
Drive a car
Receive/fill many perscription drugs
Get an airline ticket
Attend college
Receive college grants or loans
Purchase alcohol
Purchase cigarettes
Enter a bar or night club​

Now I challenge you to find a poor person living in the US that has never needed any of the things I listed above...





The fact of the matter is, your argument is as phony as a $3 bill and if you had an ounce of honesty or integrity, you wouldn't have ever tried using it in the first place.

You're trying so hard it's almost cute.

You can't commit voter fraud by having a fake ID. Period. The system picks it up as a double vote.

So what problem are you trying solve?

Like we don't know (cough - minority voting -- cough - demographic change -- cough cough)

 

[head of joaquin]

Prove it.



Prove it.

You don't have a clue, do you?

Explain how a fake ID can lead to voter fraud, and more to the point, how it could ever impact an election?

Come on, now's your chance! BWHHAAHHAHHA! This is going to be rich!

 

[P. Kersey]

You don't have a clue, do you?

Explain how a fake ID can lead to voter fraud, and more to the point, how it could ever impact an election?

Come on, now's your chance! BWHHAAHHAHHA! This is going to be rich!

Support your claim.

 

[P. Kersey]

Not only do I say it, Republicans have on occasion deviated into the truth and admitted it.

Prove it.

 

[P. Kersey]

Just curious, you don't think this might have to do with breaking up minority-majority districts, which were gerrymandered in the first place?

That is exactly right. Good catch.
Artificially creating black majority districts who then elect...surprise...only black candidates.
I've watched that happen here..some of those districts look like snakes winding and twisting all around various precincts.

 

[Grim17]

You're trying so hard it's almost cute.

You can't commit voter fraud by having a fake ID. Period. The system picks it up as a double vote.

So what problem are you trying solve?

Like we don't know (cough - minority voting -- cough - demographic change -- cough cough)

I knew you wouldn't address my post, because making a phony BS claim is one thing... Backing up a phony bs claim, is quite another.

Are your political beliefs really that shallow and pathetic, that the only way you can prop them up and justify them, is with lies and slander? How truly sad.

 

[Grim17]

Support your claim.

The only thing that can support a lie, is another lie.

 

[AGENT J]

Ill say the same thing i said in the other thread


"i had no idea Voter ID laws in general were racist?

while i think voter id laws are retarded and a complete waste of time and money "I" support Voter ID law. Im a "non-white" and support then as long as it falls under the following.

free and easily accessible like at schools, post offices, where the voting polls are, SS offices, libraries etc
and as long as other IDs are also accepted, drivers licenses, pass ports, weapon permits, photo college IDs, military IDs etc.

if it doesn't follow that or something similar then id never support because it would be discriminatory (anybody honest can see that), mainly to the poorer people and elderly.
Now if the majority of the effected people are also minorities i dont know but that doesnt matter to me since unless it fits my criteria its a crock and already discriminatory.

also any EXTRAS added to the law, total crap like blocking sunday voting, early voting, same day registration etc then again, it instantly loses my support, its about IDs or its not, that other crap doesnt need added.

 

[head of joaquin]

I knew you wouldn't address my post, because making a phony BS claim is one thing... Backing up a phony bs claim, is quite another.

Are your political beliefs really that shallow and pathetic, that the only way you can prop them up and justify them, is with lies and slander? How truly sad.

Translated: you simply can't explain how an ID will stop voter fraud. You're totally flummoxed and have to dance like a good conservative does when he's outted. Keep dancing.

 

[head of joaquin]

The only thing that can support a lie, is another lie.

If you can't explain how a lack of voter ID requirement results in fraud, admit it and submit to my incredible understanding of how rightwing memes like this work. Otherwise, you're just dancing.

 

[Linc]

I believe that Dems, libs and progs should stop playing defense on ID. ID is but one of dozens of suppression maneuvers. Mobilize, register and VOTE. Expect new "ID" laws every two years. Believe in General Powell's statement that this will backfire, as it did last year.

If you can't explain how a lack of voter ID requirement results in fraud, admit it and submit to my incredible understanding of how rightwing memes like this work. Otherwise, you're just dancing.

 

[ReformCollege]

That is exactly right. Good catch.
Artificially creating black majority districts who then elect...surprise...only black candidates.
I've watched that happen here..some of those districts look like snakes winding and twisting all around various precincts.

And what they don't understand is, this actually hurts them big time. You end up getting black Democrats who make a lot of promises to a majority black community, but have no power to actually get anything done, and you have Republicans running in districts where they don't have to win any of the black vote to win. Its a lose-lose-lose-lose if I've ever seen one.

 

[Grim17]

If you can't explain how a lack...

A legal ID is required to:

Apply for and use food stamps
Apply for and receive welfare
Apply for and receive unemployment assistance
Apply for and receive government health care assistance
Apply for and receive any federal government assistance
Apply for and receive any state government assistance
Gain legal employment in the US
Open a bank account
Cash a check
Use a credit card
Drive a car
Receive/fill many perscription drugs
Get an airline ticket
Attend college
Receive college grants or loans
Purchase alcohol
Purchase cigarettes
Enter a bar or night club​

Now I challenge you to find a poor person living in the US that has never needed any of the things I listed above...





The fact of the matter is, your argument is as phony as a $3 bill and if you had an ounce of honesty or integrity, you wouldn't have ever tried using it in the first place.