Say what you will - but looks like TRUMP has dwlivered his promise...............

[The Mark]

I'm still unsure whether the misplaced letter was unintentional, or intended to remind us of a certain recent president.

 

[Rawley]

So did the two appointed SC judges lie to Congress when asked questions about Roe v Wade?
Didn't they both say that Roe v Wade was established law?

It was. What did they lie about?

 

[JMB802]

It was. What did they lie about?

Well, if Kavanaugh and Barret vote to overturn Roe, then they will have contradicted statements they made in their hearings.

It's not a surprise to anyone. I suspect they were well-coached by the Heritage Foundation.

Roe 'settled' law? Justices' earlier assurances now in doubt

During his confirmation to the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh assured Sen. Susan Collins a woman's right to an abortion was “settled law.”

apnews.com

 

[Bullseye]

Our actions are not defined by what the states c says that we can do.

Constitution disagrees.

We have the right to do as we want until there is a compelling state interest to say that we cannot do that. This is the very core concept of freedom. Abortion was well known in the 1790s and the Framers made no attempt to ban it.

Are you claiming abortion was as prevalent back then as it is now? disingenuous argument at best. Framers were busy with other stuff.

You should have your freedoms limited by your fascist idea while the rest of us can act as we wish and are only limited by that same compelling state interest test. The internet and computers are not part of the US Constitioonm, so got off of it.

Huh? Using there catch-all "fascist" tripe doesn't strengthen your argument at all. All this does is pass authority down to the states. Here in California, for instance the Governor is already call for a (state) constitution amendment.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Dems has stacked so many justices all over. Why do you think we even got RvW in the first place?

5 of the seven justices who passed Roe were conservative republican appointees.

Roe v Wade is a small government conservative decision. It got the government out of peoples lives. Said the government had no business in de idioms better left to families and their doctors.

The new Republican party is small government conservative in name only.

 

[Lisa]

Yup. And in the meantime, Trump-supporting Christians have debased themselves over the past 6 years. WWJD?

Jesus wasn't anti-abortion and he didn't support personhood.

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

Constitution disagrees.

Are you claiming abortion was as prevalent back then as it is now? disingenuous argument at best. Framers were busy with other stuff.

Huh? Using there catch-all "fascist" tripe doesn't strengthen your argument at all. All this does is pass authority down to the states. Here in California, for instance the Governor is already call for a (state) constitution amendment.

The compelling state interest test is a core idea of constitutional law. Computers and the internet aren't in the US Constitution either, so according to your idea, your actions are criminal.

99.9% of anti-abortion arguments are based on religion which violates the Establishment clause's separation of church and state. The fact that the Bible isn't pro-life or anti-abortion is lost on conservatives.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

So did the two appointed SC judges lie to Congress when asked questions about Roe v Wade?
Didn't they both say that Roe v Wade was established law?

It was established law when they were asked.

 

[JMB802]

It was established law when they were asked.

Actually, Kavanaugh said " settled law". In legalese that implies that he thought it a binding precedent.

During his confirmation to the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh convinced Sen. Susan Collins that he thought a woman’s right to an abortion was “settled law,” calling the court cases affirming it “precedent on precedent” that could not be casually overturned.

 

[Lisa]

It was established law when they were asked.

Until they voted to overturn it themeless, but we aren't supposed to notice their hypocrisy.

 

[ataraxia]

.................... to Christians who supported him.


Roe vs Wade.



Based on the leaked opinion draft - if nobody backs out, and everyone stays firm - it'll be overturned.
It'll be mission accomplished.

Yes. Now we see why they stuck with Trump no matter how vile, repulsive, or mendacious he was. It was pretty puzzling as we went through it. But I guess it’s clear that the ends justify the means, even for our Christian friends.

 

[jamesrage]

5 of the seven justices who passed Roe were conservative republican appointees.

Roe v Wade is a small government conservative decision. It got the government out of peoples lives. Said the government had no business in de idioms better left to families and their doctors.

The new Republican party is small government conservative in name only.

Being appointed by republicans does not make a judge conservative. David Souter and William J. Brennan Jr are an example of liberal justices appointed by republicans.

 

[Michael Cole]

Jesus wasn't anti-abortion and he didn't support personhood.




The compelling state interest test is a core idea of constitutional law. Computers and the internet aren't in the US Constitution either, so according to your idea, your actions are criminal.

99.9% of anti-abortion arguments are based on religion which violates the Establishment clause's separation of church and state. The fact that the Bible isn't pro-life or anti-abortion is lost on conservatives.

When two men strive...

Can't remember the chapter and verse, but God obviously values the woman as human life and not the unborn child

Kinda leaving you hanging, but if you Google my first sentence the verse will surely come up.

 

[Michael Cole]

Constitution disagrees.

Are you claiming abortion was as prevalent back then as it is now? disingenuous argument at best. Framers were busy with other stuff.

Huh? Using there catch-all "fascist" tripe doesn't strengthen your argument at all. All this does is pass authority down to the states. Here in California, for instance the Governor is already call for a (state) constitution amendment.

Abortion has been prevalent throughout history. If you think abortion will be stopped by the SCOTUS, think again.

 

[Lisa]

When two men strive...

Can't remember the chapter and verse, but God obviously values the woman as human life and not the unborn child

Kinda leaving you hanging, but if you Google my first sentence the verse will surely come up.

Deuteronomy25 is Old Testament. Are you Jewish or Christian?

“If two Israelite men get into a fight and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man,

Deuteronomy 17 says to kill all unbelievers. That is certainly not pro-life. Don't forget the separation of church and state that forbids the government from enforcing religious law or supporting one religion/sect over the other. A church can preach anti-abortion ideas and forbid its members but it cannot force others to obey their dogma as secular law. That idea would violate both religious clauses of the 1st Amendment.

 

[itstony]

Yup because it was what he needed to say at the time. Remember the Art of the Deal, tell them what they want to hear.

 

[Nickyjo]

Dems has stacked so many justices all over. Why do you think we even got RvW in the first place?

Five republican appointed justices decided Roe v Wade. A Republican wrote the majority opinion.

 

[Nickyjo]

Yes. Now we see why they stuck with Trump no matter how vile, repulsive, or mendacious he was. It was pretty puzzling as we went through it. But I guess it’s clear that the ends justify the means, even for our Christian friends.

The “Christian friends” have addressed this, saying that God uses “imperfect vessels,” King David and Trump, to carry out his will. But the abortion issue and the gun control questions show the power of single-issue politics, where a determined minority can impose its will on the majority.

 

[mike2810]

It was. What did they lie about?

You can't figure it out?

 

[mike2810]

It was established law when they were asked.

and still is,

So why would they want to overturn an established law they seemed to support?

 

[CaughtInThe]

this is one of the best things to happen to liberals (politically) in my lifetime.

WOMEN. RISE UP!!!!

 

[pocket aces]

As if we needed proof of how ignorant the right is about history and facts....

Well you have to remember that Trumpers aren’t the brightest bulbs.

 

[NolanVoyd]

It was established law when they were asked.

Don't you have any integrity?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Being appointed by republicans does not make a judge conservative. David Souter and William J. Brennan Jr are an example of liberal justices appointed by republicans.

The decision itself is small Government conservative.

The Republican party has lost it's way.....become radical.

 

[Atreus21]

Well, how about that.

There is at least one righty who is happy to openly admit that they wanted a stacked SCOTUS to impose Christian mandates on the rest of us.

Stacked, yes. Also known as legally appointed.

Democrats lost elections they needed to win. Republicans didn't.

 

[element94]

Well, how about that.

There is at least one righty who is happy to openly admit that they wanted a stacked SCOTUS to impose Christian mandates on the rest of us.

They're Christians like the current Republicans are the party of Lincoln.