Saudis Reportedly Funding Iraqi Sunnis (1 Viewer)

[jujuman13]

As the US is a major purchaser of Saudi Oil, it could well be argued that we are the ones who actually provide the funds for these Saudi's to give to their various (charities), this money is then funnelled into Iraq and is used by Sunni leaders to buy the weapons that they and their partners Al-Quaeda use to kill US personnel, is that too far fetched or could it be somewhat nearer the truth?
Comments please.
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[jujuman13]

Sorry folks but the link just went out.
So no story.
But it is happening.

 

[Hatuey]

If it's true...aren't the Saudis our allies? I dont like trash talking Bush but...wasn't he holding hands with one of their princes a few months ago? Bush is in bed with the same people who are supporting the insurgency? ****ing ****.

 

[jujuman13]

Moderators, as the link to this story does not work, please allow me to print the story in full.
CAIRO, Egypt - Private Saudi citizens are giving millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents in Iraq and much of the money is used to buy weapons, including shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles, according to key Iraqi officials and others familiar with the flow of cash.


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[jujuman13]

And the first response we get is from Hatuey who decides to misrepresent what was actually reported.
Yes the Saudi's are considered to be allies of the US, yes President Bush has recently had talks with Saudi Princes as well as other Saudi officials.
But this report makes no mention that Saudi officials are involved in this affair, supposition is very dangerous.
What the report does say, is that ordinary Saudi citizens are donating money to their various charity's, these Charity's then pass that money over to (those they consider to be their Sunni brothers) in Iraq.
Saudi basically follow the Sunni Islamic religion, whereas Iran and the majority of Iraq are Shiite.
Saudi does not want Iran to gain an inordinate amount of control over Iraq, Saudi considers Iran to be a threat to it's own integrity especially if Iran does develop an atomic weapon.

 

[Hatuey]

And the first response we get is from Hatuey who decides to misrepresent what was actually reported.
Yes the Saudi's are considered to be allies of the US, yes President Bush has recently had talks with Saudi Princes as well as other Saudi officials.
But this report makes no mention that Saudi officials are involved in this affair, supposition is very dangerous.
What the report does say, is that ordinary Saudi citizens are donating money to their various charity's, these Charity's then pass that money over to (those they consider to be their Sunni brothers) in Iraq.
Saudi basically follow the Sunni Islamic religion, whereas Iran and the majority of Iraq are Shiite.
Saudi does not want Iran to gain an inordinate amount of control over Iraq, Saudi considers Iran to be a threat to it's own integrity especially if Iran does develop an atomic weapon.

I didnt misinterpret anything - you didnt post any news so when you said Saudis I thought you went their royal family. I think it's ignorant to think that the rich saudis (some of which are related, have ties or are part of the royal family) aren't somehow involved in this. The leaders of that country are responsible for the actions of their people and if the people of that country are in anyway aiding the insurgency while at the same time their leaders are telling us they're our allies then they're just as bad as the insurgency.

 

[Red_Dave]

If it's true...aren't the Saudis our allies?

They certainly are. Both Brittian and america have sold them tax payer subsidised weaponary. But hey its good buissness so thats all that matters. Who cares if they behead dissidents?

 

[jujuman13]

RED DAVE, just a couple of points.
1) Brittain, no such country exists.
2) america, to be strictly correct, one would have written, America.
Your quote
(They certainly are. Both Brittian and america have sold them tax payer subsidised weaponary. But hey its good buissness so thats all that matters. Who cares if they behead dissidents?)

Both Britain and America have sold Tax Payer subsidised weaponry to Saudi Arabia, in much the same manner Russia has sold Tax payer subsidised weaponry to Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Cuba amongst many other countries, but as you have so correctly stated 'it is good business so that is all that matter's, naturally we must not forget that China, India, Pakistan, France, Italy and indeed many other countries too numerous to mention are also involved in the sale of Tax Payer subsidised weaponry sales, so unless this statement of yours is a criticism of Nations that are involved in the weaponry trade, I fail to see what point you are making?
With regard to who cares if they behead Dissidents?
It is probably safe to assume the Dissidents care.
What you and many others fail to realise (or even bother to learn) is that Sharia Law is practised in many Islamic countries, for specific crimes there are specific punishments.
IE: Stealing is punished, after the thief has been found guilty more than once, it may be that the thief has his right hand removed (normally this is done in a surgical operation with the thief under anaesthesia).
Adultery, death by stoning.
Drug trafficking, death by decapitation.
Murder, either those convicted, are, at the discretion of the victims family, compelled to pay for the victims life by compensating the victims family for the loss of the victim or they may simply be executed by decapitation.
There are many other crimes and various punishments for each crime.
Crimes against the State are normally (if found guilty) given the death sentence.
We who live in so called civilised society's believe these punishments to be cruel and unusual, perhaps they are, BUT within Islamic States the crime rates are extraordinarily low.