Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

[Kobie]

That's two posts in a row where you just can't bring yourself to tell the truth. But keep going, I love it. And don't worry, it's not just you. The entire left has this problem. It is so obviously true that she is of great value to the conservative cause, and to the defense of the Constitution.

Anyone that calls her worthless is just blind, an idiot, or just plain scared to admit the truth. Oh, it is so obvious the the left just looks at her and thinks to themselves that they wish Obama had her strength. Dream on, because he never will.

Mkay.

 

[humbolt]

Im not really fired up. Just find her as a idiot and i find all her "fans" idiots.

But you decided to start a thread on her anyway, because you're not really fired up about her. I understand PeeWee Herman is available for a thread too, if you're not all fired up about him either.

 

[Top Cat]

That's two posts in a row where you just can't bring yourself to tell the truth. But keep going, I love it. And don't worry, it's not just you. The entire left has this problem. It is so obviously true that she is of great value to the conservative cause, and to the defense of the Constitution.

Anyone that calls her worthless is just blind, an idiot, or just plain scared to admit the truth. Oh, it is so obvious the the left just looks at her and thinks to themselves that they wish Obama had her strength. Dream on, because he never will.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

But you decided to start a thread on her anyway, because you're not really fired up about her. I understand PeeWee Herman is available for a thread too, if you're not all fired up about him either.

Not mad at all. I start threads about idiots all the time, Glenn Beck, Hannity. Hey, not really fired up. Just another GOP idiot to laugh at and all her supporters.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

That's two posts in a row where you just can't bring yourself to tell the truth. But keep going, I love it. And don't worry, it's not just you. The entire left has this problem. It is so obviously true that she is of great value to the conservative cause, and to the defense of the Constitution.

Anyone that calls her worthless is just blind, an idiot, or just plain scared to admit the truth. Oh, it is so obvious the the left just looks at her and thinks to themselves that they wish Obama had her strength. Dream on, because he never will.

Don't kid yourself, she's no asset. She's a liability.

While I would agree that many on the left made it their personal mission to destroy this woman's credibility, I also have to acknowledge that she hasn't done herself any favors by constantly spoon feeding them ammo to use against her. They've got more than enough "game film" on her to pretty much stop her dead in her tracks and she's basically damaged goods at this point. I think she has some admirable qualities, but to me at least, it just seems like she's in way over her head.

 

[Deuce]

Everyone knows torture is a great value to the defense of the Constitution.

 

[nota bene]

But you decided to start a thread on her anyway, because you're not really fired up about her. I understand PeeWee Herman is available for a thread too, if you're not all fired up about him either.

Well, it was time for a Palin thread. These are necessary--kinda like "three-minute hate" sessions--every so often. Now everybody has it out of their systems and feels good, and we'll go another couple of months before Palin stirs up her detractors again.

You know, for a non-candidate, she surely does excite some people.

 

[Anthony60]

Don't kid yourself, she's no asset. She's a liability.

That just begs the question... then who do you consider an asset?

 

[jmotivator]

Torture is a huge scar on America's reputation abroad. How are we different than any of this other countries that commit human rights violations? People like sarah palin who not only support torture, but try turn into some religious thing portray Americans in a bad light.

OK, if you had to choose between, say, getting waterboarded or dying from polonium poisoning which would you choose? I get really tired of people trying to equate waterboarding to the real atrocity going on in the world. It doesn't compare.

I mean, if all these things are equal then I guess some marines could just go in and start hacking off their limbs. Maybe cut off their lips and tongues. Maybe slowly feed them into industrial plastic shredders feet first. All things being equal, the folks at GITMO have a lot of options... :roll:

 

[zimmer]

1. Waterboarding isn't torture.

2. Our elite troops are waterboarded as part of their training.

If it is torture, then this part of their survival training would have to be axed, as torture is illegal.

Palin's point was funny. Terrorists aren't loveable Disneyland characters, their aim is to kill, maim and control through terror. Waterboarding should be used when it is deemed the terrorist has information and has proven uncooperative.

If it's good enough for our troops, it's good enough for the evil pricks who intend to do massive harm... or would you prefer we not waterboard and perhaps risk another 911 scale attack.

 

[Kobie]

1. Waterboarding isn't torture.

Have you been waterboarded? Didn't think so. People who HAVE been waterboarded will tell you it's torture.

Christopher Hitchens got waterboarded. He says it's torture.

Radio host Eric "Mancow" Muller got waterboarded. He says it's torture.

2. Our elite troops are waterboarded as part of their training.

Yes, they do. TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING TORTURED.

If it is torture, then this part of their survival training would have to be axed, as torture is illegal.

Technically, torture for training isn't illegal, but that's splitting hairs.

Palin's point was funny. Terrorists aren't loveable Disneyland characters, their aim is to kill, maim and control through terror. Waterboarding should be used when it is deemed the terrorist has information and has proven uncooperative.

Nobody is claiming we should give terrorists (or, as it usually turns out, terror SUSPECTS) the comfy chair. Discounting the moral and ethical arguments against torture, there is also the fact that torture doesn't work. There is no evidence that one gets more actionable intelligence; in fact, it's generally considered counterproductive.

If it's good enough for our troops, it's good enough for the evil pricks who intend to do massive harm... or would you prefer we not waterboard and perhaps risk another 911 scale attack.

This is not an episode of 24.

The only reason people advocate for torture is for mental revenge porn.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Are you saying that the only way to truly oppose terrorism is to support waterboarding?

Good morning OD - to answer your question, no, I said no such thing.

 

[joG]

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Nothing like combining Christian baptism and torture. Hey but im sure it god all the wacko idiots at the NRA convention real fired up. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Torture? What torture?
As described in the legal analysis waterboarding is not torture. As it seems to have been applied in three cases, where the frequency and duration must have been over the top, it probably could count as torture, though I am not sure. What I am sure of is that I would not want the then approved methods of enhanced interrogation applied to citizens or domestically. I wanted to know how bad it actually is and had tried it out and believe me, to describe the methods as then approved as torture is stupid. It is very unpleasant. A toothache is much worse.

 

[grip]

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Nothing like combining Christian baptism and torture. Hey but im sure it god all the wacko idiots at the NRA convention real fired up. [/FONT][/COLOR]

We automatically murder high suspect targets, without them having even been proven to have committed a terrorist act or crime towards us. That's not only illegal by our own standards of justice, but it's not been working out too well. It's helped recruit and grow the ranks of terrorist organizations tremendously. Of course the supporters will say we haven't had another attack since 9/11, though the proactive stance hasn't been proven to be the cause, as much as a good defensive strategy consisting of stricter security methods.

Torture and murder anyone that doesn't like you, using religious euphemisms is real Christian. No wonder our government has such low approval ratings and fiscal irresponsibility.

 

[DA60]

I have not seen her lately, but the minute she else's her looks...she loses ALL interest for me.

And politically, she never held much of my interest, she is non-too bright and seemingly rather arrogant...terrible combination.

 

[Sababa]

The deflection in defense of an idiot from the right is amazing.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Have you been waterboarded? Didn't think so. People who HAVE been waterboarded will tell you it's torture.

Christopher Hitchens got waterboarded. He says it's torture.

Radio host Eric "Mancow" Muller got waterboarded. He says it's torture.

Yes, they do. TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING TORTURED.

Technically, torture for training isn't illegal, but that's splitting hairs.

Nobody is claiming we should give terrorists (or, as it usually turns out, terror SUSPECTS) the comfy chair. Discounting the moral and ethical arguments against torture, there is also the fact that torture doesn't work. There is no evidence that one gets more actionable intelligence; in fact, it's generally considered counterproductive.

This is not an episode of 24.

The only reason people advocate for torture is for mental revenge porn.

See I wouldn't be so upset about the whole torture thing if America was just honest with itself.

If they just came out and said

"we will use all tools at our disposal to defend this country including torture".

I still wouldn't like it, it would still be wrong, but at least there wouldn't be this nonsense about trying to save face "we don't torture" strutting around pretending you're all about human rights etc.

 

[zimmer]

Have you been waterboarded? Didn't think so. People who HAVE been waterboarded will tell you it's torture.

Christopher Hitchens got waterboarded. He says it's torture.

Radio host Eric "Mancow" Muller got waterboarded. He says it's torture.



Yes, they do. TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING TORTURED.



Technically, torture for training isn't illegal, but that's splitting hairs.



Nobody is claiming we should give terrorists (or, as it usually turns out, terror SUSPECTS) the comfy chair. Discounting the moral and ethical arguments against torture, there is also the fact that torture doesn't work. There is no evidence that one gets more actionable intelligence; in fact, it's generally considered counterproductive.



This is not an episode of 24.

The only reason people advocate for torture is for mental revenge porn.

Bottom line... you do not torture troops. Torture in any form is illegal and punishable.

Waterboarding is not torture.

 

[Sababa]

Bottom line... you do not torture troops. Torture in any form is illegal and punishable.

Waterboarding is not torture.

yes it is, and even in training you know going in that the people doing it are not intending to harm you.

Oh and US prosecuted Japan for torture after WW2 for.......wait for it...................WATERBOARDING.

 

[zimmer]

Torture is torture... and it doesn't matter who is administering it.

If it is torture, our troops under the law should not be subjected to it. Or is there a law allowing some forms of torture that I'm unfamiliar with?

 

[1750Texan]

Torture? What torture?
As described in the legal analysis waterboarding is not torture. As it seems to have been applied in three cases, where the frequency and duration must have been over the top, it probably could count as torture, though I am not sure. What I am sure of is that I would not want the then approved methods of enhanced interrogation applied to citizens or domestically. I wanted to know how bad it actually is and had tried it out and believe me, to describe the methods as then approved as torture is stupid. It is very unpleasant. A toothache is much worse.

Which "legal" analysis are you refering to?

 

[Lord of Planar]

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Nothing like combining Christian baptism and torture. Hey but im sure it god all the wacko idiots at the NRA convention real fired up. [/FONT][/COLOR]

I tried to watch the video, but couldn't. It annoys the hell of of me when the audio is so delayed from the picture. Also makes me wonder if it's edited when you can't follow the mouth.

However...

I can see Sarah saying "Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge." I love it!

 

[jmotivator]

1. Waterboarding isn't torture.

2. Our elite troops are waterboarded as part of their training.

If it is torture, then this part of their survival training would have to be axed, as torture is illegal.

Palin's point was funny. Terrorists aren't loveable Disneyland characters, their aim is to kill, maim and control through terror. Waterboarding should be used when it is deemed the terrorist has information and has proven uncooperative.

If it's good enough for our troops, it's good enough for the evil pricks who intend to do massive harm... or would you prefer we not waterboard and perhaps risk another 911 scale attack.

It is pretty funny that most of the same people screaming about waterboarding terrorists as a violation of their rights are more than happy to see accused terrorists assassinated by drone without a trial. They are so screwed up in the head that waterboarding is somehow more extreme than explosive dismemberment....

One gets the feeling that if Obama ordered GITMO bombed with all the inmates still in their cells that the left would be OK with it.

 

[Deuce]

1. Waterboarding isn't torture.

2. Our elite troops are waterboarded as part of their training.

If it is torture, then this part of their survival training would have to be axed, as torture is illegal.

Palin's point was funny. Terrorists aren't loveable Disneyland characters, their aim is to kill, maim and control through terror. Waterboarding should be used when it is deemed the terrorist has information and has proven uncooperative.

If it's good enough for our troops, it's good enough for the evil pricks who intend to do massive harm... or would you prefer we not waterboard and perhaps risk another 911 scale attack.

Interesting logic. If the government does it, it must be legal!

 

[Deuce]

It is pretty funny that most of the same people screaming about waterboarding terrorists as a violation of their rights are more than happy to see accused terrorists assassinated by drone without a trial. They are so screwed up in the head that waterboarding is somehow more extreme than explosive dismemberment....

One gets the feeling that if Obama ordered GITMO bombed with all the inmates still in their cells that the left would be OK with it.

No, us heathen liberals have been screeching about that for ages now, and you guys keep criticizing us for doing that too. Make up your minds. The NSA surveillance thing? Remember the PATRIOT act and how all those hippies were mad about it? This is what they were talking about.